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Turbo on 2005 Peugeot 407 1.6 HDi

  • 22-09-2014 03:18PM
    #1
    BanjoSpanner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭


    My turbo blew and I think I found the root cause - lack of oil. Yet I can't be 100% sure so I want to fit the cheapest working turbo I can get my hands on to test if it was only lack of oil that was the problem.

    If anyone knows where I can get my hands on a cheap as chips turbo for a 2005 Peugeot 407 1.6 HDi engine please let me know. So long as it works that's all I want, doesn't have to be reconditioned and certainly not new.

    Cheers folks!


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  • #2
    Row
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Row


    BanjoSpanner wrote: »
    My turbo blew and I think I found the root cause - lack of oil. Yet I can't be 100% sure so I want to fit the cheapest working turbo I can get my hands on to test if it was only lack of oil that was the problem.

    If anyone knows where I can get my hands on a cheap as chips turbo for a 2005 Peugeot 407 1.6 HDi engine please let me know. So long as it works that's all I want, doesn't have to be reconditioned and certainly not new.

    Cheers folks!

    Theres a hell of alot more involved in just swapping out the turbo...Read the link below and follow the step by step procedure or else you'll be fitting another turbo with a few days.
    The cheapest option is to fit a turbo core but this may need to be set up to boost at the correct pressure at the correct time.

    http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CEEQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.webalice.it%2Fa.beccia%2Fappoggio%2Fapi-dv4ted6-carbon.pdf&ei=DzMhVPz5BIPW7gaRqoCQDA&usg=AFQjCNEEMYk2Rh5EiyewDo4ishVIkAL4sQ&sig2=Ci2WawGbZ3hjUd_1MzP4Sg


  • #3
    boblimerick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 ✭boblimerick


    @ BanjoSpanner - I would imagine that is is 99% an oil starvation / oil contamination issue. I'm the author of the report that Row sent you the link to.. (Engineer @ Api).

    Feel free to contact me for further assistance. I personally wouldn't recommend fitting a reconditioned unit or inserting a core into the turbo. Primarily because this is a VNT (Variable geometry) turbine, which needs to be calibrated at the factory on a specific flow bench. Failure to have exact calibration (down to microns here) could lead to performance problems, fuel consumption issues and/ or the car going into engine protection/limp mode

    As regards the carbon build up in the engine, removal can be tricky, and as Row above correctly mentioned, this very is labour intensive, and if all traces of carbon are not removed then the new turbo could fail in a matter of minutes. In a perfect world I would recommend ultrasonic cleaning of the engine, but this is very costly exercise.

    Hope this helps


  • #4
    BanjoSpanner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭BanjoSpanner


    Thanks to both Row and boblimerick.

    I am 99% sure that the reason the turbo seized is my own fault. I'm not proud of it but basically, I let the oil run completely dry. I didn't perform proper maintenance at all on the car, to me it's an A to B workhorse I'm sorry to say, and it treated me the same way I treated it.

    I've bought another car now and the Peugeot is sitting on the drive, so I've got something to get me around and I can take my time with the Peugeot, I'm not under any pressure to get it back on the road. I've already stripped out the old turbo and feed pipes. Next I'll remove the oil pump and the sump to see what they are looking like. Then the rocker cover to take a browse in there. Based on what I find I will make a decision whether to spend money on it or not. It has a lot of miles done so it may not be worth it, however at an initial glance there is no major evidence of major carbon build up. This is why I'm reasonably confident that the lack of oil caused the turbo to fail.

    If I do spend the money on a turbo I'll be cleaning the engine up of any deposits as well. Then I'll drive it around for a while and sell it on once I'm happy it's reliable. That way I'll recoup some of the money I spent on the new car.

    When you say you wouldn't recommend a reconditioned turbo, does that mean you would be going for a brand new one?


  • #5
    boblimerick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 ✭boblimerick


    Yes, I would go for brand new if you can. Garrett offer brand new turbo's in exchange for your old broken one. It may be a little more expensive than a recon unit, but as least you will have the piece of mind that it is a new, genuine unit, calibrated by the manufacturer.


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