Partner studying LLb

the culture of deference

Strange question time.

My partner is studying a LLb in Dublin and its 5k a year. I want to study alongside them, but do not have another 5k. What is the best way for me to get the qualification.

NoQuarter

Unfortunately they dont do 2 for one's on degrees

Bepolite

If it's a private college it's like any other business, there is some haggle room. To be fair you're not going to get a BOGOF but if you want to study along side just read the notes and books. Depending on how cheeky you are sit at the back of the lectures.

You're not going to be able to sit the exam and get the LLB but you'd have more then enough grounding to sit the FE-1s (solicitor entrance exams) if you have a degree in another field.

the culture of deference

Bepolite wrote: »

You're not going to be able to sit the exam and get the LLB but you'd have more then enough grounding to sit the FE-1s (solicitor entrance exams) if you have a degree in another field.

I intend to do the full course incl assignments anyway due to personal interest. I do not want to practise but I would like the qual. I am ACCA.

Bepolite

the culture of deference wrote: »

I intend to do the full course incl assignments anyway due to personal interest. I do not want to practise but I would like the qual. I am ACCA.

Getting the assignments marked won't be an issue in most cases, if the lecutures are barristers. Get their e-mail addresses and they'll do it as a nixer for about €50. Of course this won't be an offical grade and I've no idea how you'd get around the exams without sitting the degree.

conorh91

the culture of deference wrote: »

I intend to do the full course incl assignments anyway due to personal interest. I do not want to practise but I would like the qual. I am ACCA.

Maybe the problem is you're looking at the LLB degree like the ACCA.

Unlike the ACCA, there's no such thing as a single LLB qualification. It isn't based on a co-ordinated syllabus or examinations framework. It's not a professional qualification. Each institution formulates its own syllabus, and awards the LLB locally. (All LLBs are equal, but some are more equal than others.)

So, to get an LLB (or a BCL, or a BA in Legal Studies, for that matter), you have to register for a programme and pay the registration fee and perhaps the tuition fees.

the culture of deference

Thanks for replies.

I am awaiting a reply from the OU LLb, I can do the FE1's after. I do not want to have to do a training contract though.

sunshine and showers

the culture of deference wrote: »

Thanks for replies.

I am awaiting a reply from the OU LLb, I can do the FE1's after. I do not want to have to do a training contract though.

There's really no point in doing the FE1s if you do not intend to become a solicitor, which you can't do without a training contract/Blackhall Place. They're not a qualification in and of themselves. You would be much better served doing something else, like a diploma or degree.

Manach

On the OU, from a non-Legal studies perspective, I've found them to be mostly excellent in regard to their subject matter and student supports but due to changes in their funding, they've become fairly expensive for overseas students.

Bepolite

Manach wrote: »

On the OU, from a non-Legal studies perspective, I've found them to be mostly excellent in regard to their subject matter and student supports but due to changes in their funding, they've become fairly expensive for overseas students.

I started my BA with them before seeing the dingey light of a legal career. OU have distance learning absolutely nailed.

the culture of deference

So the OU say


"You may be able to count your previous study towards our 360-credit LLB (Q79) – reducing the number of modules you need to study. It’s not just study completed at a university that can be considered, you can transfer study from a wide range of professional qualifications as well. A full list of the qualifications and institutions we can consider for credit transfer can be found on our credit transfer website.

You should apply for credit transfer before you register, at least 4 weeks before the registration closing date. We will need to know what you studied, where and when and you will need to provide original evidence of your previous study. We will compare this against the learning outcomes for your chosen qualification and inform you of any award.

For more details of when you will need to apply by and to download an application form, visit our Credit Transfer website."

Bepolite

The OU will be an English Law degree though.

Pro Hoc Vice

the culture of deference wrote: »

Thanks for replies.

I am awaiting a reply from the OU LLb, I can do the FE1's after. I do not want to have to do a training contract though.

You can do FE 1's if you have a degree. But why would you want todo the FE1's if you do not want to do a training contract in fact to the best of my knowledge you have to have a contract to start the FE1's.

sunshine and showers

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

You can do FE 1's if you have a degree. But why would you want todo the FE1's if you do not want to do a training contract in fact to the best of my knowledge you have to have a contract to start the FE1's.

You do not have to have a training contract to sit the FE1s. You need to pass the FE1s to be eligible to go to Blackhall Place, and you also need to have a contract to go there.

Pro Hoc Vice

sunshine and showers wrote: »

You do not have to have a training contract to sit the FE1s. You need to pass the FE1s to be eligible to go to Blackhall Place, and you also need to have a contract to go there.

You are correct, but I ask why sit them if a person not going there. I should have of course said you need a training contract to do professional course.

the culture of deference

Bepolite wrote: »

The OU will be an English Law degree though.

Yes. But like ACCA and it's variants it is not that different.

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

But why would you want todo the FE1's

Just to do them.

sunshine and showers

the culture of deference wrote: »

Just to do them.

Fair enough if that's what you really want, but it's an expensive thing to "just do". It's €105 per subject just to sit the exams, never mind paying for materials (manuals, legal textbooks, whatever you choose to use). They also technically expire after five years. And that's before you get into the effort and stress involved!

hullaballoo

There wouldn't be any benefit in sitting the FE1s unless you are going to proceed with Blackhall training. They are not in and of themselves tantamount to any qualification.

If you want to do some legal course for the hell of it, there are plenty on offer that will give you a diploma or certificate at the end. You cannot put "passed the FE1s" on your CV because it's meaningless without the subsequent qualification. They are just entrance exams, similar to LSATS.

the culture of deference

sunshine and showers wrote: »

Fair enough if that's what you really want, but it's an expensive thing to "just do". It's €105 per subject just to sit the exams, never mind paying for materials (manuals, legal textbooks, whatever you choose to use). They also technically expire after five years. And that's before you get into the effort and stress involved!

I have all the legal books, I have all the LLb hons course notes, as I already stated it is only a backup idea if I cannot get the OU LLb.

234

the culture of deference wrote: »

Yes. But like ACCA and it's variants it is not that different.

Land law will be very different and constitutional law will be completely different. If you intend to sit the FE1s there will be an enormous amount of con law which you would have to cover outside the OU LLB.

the culture of deference

234 wrote: »

Land law will be very different and constitutional law will be completely different. If you intend to sit the FE1s there will be an enormous amount of con law which you would have to cover outside the OU LLB.

Yes that is something I have to consider. Thanks all.