Putting condition on a Springer

fiestaman

Anyone have any tips on putting some extra condition on there dog before the season really kicks in? Find it hard to get my lad with a bit of fat on him.

the scudd

get him some tripe

sniperman

feed him/her rabbit,high in protein,low in fat,its muscle you need on a working dog,not fat,works for me.

fiestaman

Never fed tripe, heard its good alright, might try some. Yea I know it's muscle but I'd like a bit of fat for reserve and also on cold wet days, but if fat wouldn't go astray

Mackas_view

fiestaman wrote: »

Never fed tripe, heard its good alright, might try some. Yea I know it's muscle but I'd like a bit of fat for reserve and also on cold wet days, but if fat wouldn't go astray

Feed him tripe but if hes in the house and he Farts you'll know all about it, had my lad on it, lethal stuff.

fiestaman

How much would you give and how often. Where's best place to get it, local butcher?

Perazzi

Get yourself a good dog food feed mines on Chudleys working crunch and the are in excellent I worm them every 3 months and they are in great shape .

allan450

sniperman wrote: »

feed him/her rabbit,high in protein,low in fat,its muscle you need on a working dog,not fat,works for me.

you need high percentage in both mate.rabbit is great though.but if your only feeding high protein low fat the dogs body will start to brake down the muscle for energy.high fat is essential for maintaining condition and energy of a working dog.chudlys working crunch is a great food all mine are on it.add a bit of raw to every now and then and condition will come.eggs a few times a week and sardines and come november your dog will be rocking.

ESB Spaniel

As other posts say you do not want fat, you want muscle. chicken and beef mushed up....mix it in with your dog nuts. cooked preferably, but raw isn't bad either. Gain 28 great to keep a dog fit with no fat whats so ever.

allan450

Are fats Good for Your Dog’s Health?



What are Fats?


Fats are a concentrated form of energy that give your dog more than twice the amount of energy as carbohydrates and proteins do. Fats used in dog foods are highly digestible and are the first nutrients to be used by the body as energy, ahead of protein and carbohydrates.

Fats are made up of building blocks called fatty acids. Fatty acids are named according to their chemical structure and how they are bonded together. There are certain fatty acids that dogs require in their diet because the body cannot make them. These are known as essential fatty acids. These essential fatty acids are divided into two groups called the omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids. Fatty acids in both these groups must be provided in a specifically balanced ratio in the daily diet.

What do Fats do?


Fats have many important functions in the canine body. Not only do they provide energy, but they are also necessary for the normal development and function of body cells, nerves, muscles, and body tissues. They are important components in the body’s production of hormone-like substances called prostaglandins. Prostaglandins work to reduce inflammation, as well as perform many other important functions in the body.

Fats are part of the reason that dog foods taste good and smell good too (at least to your dog). Fats and oils also give structure to foods. They help the body to absorb certain vitamins called the fat-soluble vitamins (A, D, E, and K). Fats and oils in the diet keep your dog’s coat shiny and healthy and are also important in reproduction.

Not every fat or oil is good for our pets, however. The source, quality, and quantity of fat needs to be carefully considered when choosing a quality dog food.

Common Sources of Fats/Oils


When considering a food for your dog, check out the list of ingredients to see where the fats and oils are coming from. Fats in dog foods are typically supplied by both animal fat and oils from plants. Quality dog foods will list sources of fat that provide the proper balance of omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids.

Common sources of omega-3 fatty acids are fish oils (herring, salmon, etc.) and flaxseed and canola oils. Commonly used omega-6 fatty acid sources include pork fat, chicken fat (or any poultry fat), safflower and sunflower oils, as well as corn and soybean oils (vegetable oils). Watch out for lower-quality ingredients such as tallow or lard.

weatherbyfoxer

Had my 14 month old springer getting vaccines with the vet there 3 weeks ago.She said he was slightly thin and recommended feeding some carbs like cooked potatoes, pasta and bread mixed in with a good food like chudleys working dog....bit early in the year for storing tripe here..blue bottle bonansa!!

jap gt

Where do ye get the chudleys. Any place online

allan450

i get it in enniskillin up north but you can get down here but its hard got.works out at 20 a bag

weatherbyfoxer

18 per bag in floods horse feeds newbridge

blackpearl

its fat you need if you work your dog hard I found chicken fat from the roasters that you get in the butchers ,heat it up in a pot pour it over the nuts you feed him, in 2 weeks you will see the weight going on once the hunting season is over stop using the fat.

JOHNERS

grayhund nuts best of all

driller2

Pasta works a treat for me. Recommend by the vet.

Barneyc

blackpearl wrote: »

its fat you need if you work your dog hard I found chicken fat from the roasters that you get in the butchers ,heat it up in a pot pour it over the nuts you feed him, in 2 weeks you will see the weight going on once the hunting season is over stop using the fat.

A good worm dose like drontal plus

vincentf

Yes.fat is a must for a working dog,carbs and protein.
Fat provides the first initial energy requirement an animal needs under stress,humans too.
Carbohydrates kick in after the fat storage to provide sustained long term energy requirements.
Protein provides energy but is primarily to build muscle and repair damage due to physical stress, again all the same for humans.
Anyone who says a working dog don't need fat hasn't a clue to a dogs dietary requirements for sustained hard work.
Off season ,low fat, low protein. Dogs can go doolaly if given too much protein in the off season and will get out a shape if too much fat.
Working season. Lots of protein,fat and carbohydrates. He will look good too !!!
I've read up on chudleys worker crunch. Its not rated in the UK, why ?????
Its full of cereals like all the rest of the ****e that's out there.
The best bagged food is very very expensive, due to the fact its nearly all dried meats,fish,oils etc..... There's no cereals. Cereals are alien to a dogs digestive requirements.
A cheaper health alternative are raw meaty fat bones and any meat off cuts including the fat from your butcher.
Dogs are carnivores. End of......

snipe49

Barneyc wrote: »

A good worm dose like drontal plus

For worms i use Noromection. Great stuff.

270WIN

snipe49 wrote: »

For worms i use Noromection. Great stuff.

is that the injection? if so how many mls do you use?

useurowname

A bit of beef liver browned up on the pan, great to bring on a young dog.

snipe49

270WIN wrote: »

is that the injection? if so how many mls do you use?

Give as injection under the skin on the back of the neck
for a dog over one year give just under 1 ml. for pups over 6 mounths half a ml. And for pups over 4 months a quather ml. never give to a sick dog or a collie. These are the doses i use ans have had no problem.