UFC Fight Night 52: Hunt vs. Nelson

mailburner

main card starts around 8.30am saturday morn
not on bt sports 2 till sat night at 9.30




main event should lack nothing in entertainment here, not sure I want to
see big country go five though as he's barely able to go three
which chin will be the first to go I guess?
I'd fancy roy over three, not sure over five

think gomi will be outclassed by jury

sexyama was plain slow when last seen in the ufc, should be even slower now
after being inactive since feb 12
cant for the life of me see how hes even favourite to win this, really looking past sexy, japan or no japan

dont know tates opponent or most of the rest of the card

and
good luck to bruce leroy also, was convinced he'd get maybe three fights
after tuf and be released but he's done better than I could possibly have imagined

He Who Dares Wins

Hopefully Hunt can drop the rest of the weight.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/with-less-than-24-hours-to-weigh-in--mark-hunt-is-19-pounds-over-heavyweight-limit-173814282.html

Zero-Cool

I no nothing about weight cutting but losing 19 pounds by tomorrow has to be kinda impossible? What's the chances of it actually happening?

Wrongway1985

He Who Dares Wins wrote: »

Hopefully Hunt can drop the rest of the weight.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/with-less-than-24-hours-to-weigh-in--mark-hunt-is-19-pounds-over-heavyweight-limit-173814282.html

Hard to believe it's not being reported by the MMA media heavies either so I'd have me doubts about it being legit, weigh-in is in 9 hours time!

SureYWouldntYa

Why does he let himself get up to such a high weight. If its true then he's losing near 80 pounds before the fight, ridiculous really

mailburner

He Who Dares Wins wrote: »

Hopefully Hunt can drop the rest of the weight.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/with-less-than-24-hours-to-weigh-in--mark-hunt-is-19-pounds-over-heavyweight-limit-173814282.html

makes sense now
was contemplating backing nelson at 11/8 and was wondering why he
was cut everywhere
mostly evens now

Wrongway1985

mailburner wrote: »

main event should lack nothing in entertainment here, not sure I want to
see big country go five though as he's barely able to go three
which chin will be the first to go I guess?
I'd fancy roy over three, not sure over five

think gomi will be outclassed by jury

Decent Card hope the rumours aren't true bout Hunt.

Ya Jury should be too much for Gomi but Gomis pulled off some shocks in the past. 6/1 in most places to win by KO or Sub thats the only way he can win IMO

mailburner wrote: »

sexyama was plain slow when last seen in the ufc, should be even slower now
after being inactive since feb 12
cant for the life of me see how hes even favourite to win this, really looking past sexy, japan or no japan

A split decision win is all Akiyama has to show in his 5 UFC fights fighters have been cut for less;he's rumored to get upwards of $40,000 for just show money too it's disgraceful, Amir clearly needs this more, hard to believe since beating CB Dollaway for the TUF7 crown CB will be main eventing a card soon and Amir possibly fighting here to cling on to his career.

mailburner wrote: »

dont know tates opponent or most of the rest of the card

Tates opponent is an intriguing one never seen her fight either but an unbeaten girl 16 wins(10 finishes) last fight I noticed was a decision against Sarah D'elalio who fought multiple times in Invicta also fought R.Rousey in Strikeforce.

Mellor

I met Mark at the start of his camp, he was big, but I wouldn't have said he was anything near 340lbs. (A girl picked him up )

ASOT

He weighed in at 264 so id say that was BS about how much weight he had to lose, because he seemed grand. Roy came in at 260. Up nearly 20lbs from when he fought DC at 166 and up 5.5 from the Nog fight, taught Roy was slimming down

Gumbi

ASOT wrote: »

He weighed in at 264 so id say that was BS about how much weight he had to lose, because he seemed grand. Roy came in at 260. Up nearly 20lbs from when he fought DC at 166 and up 5.5 from the Nog fight, taught Roy was slimming down

It wrecks my head the amount of assumptions people make about weight cutting. The unnecessary articles don't help either.

Some light weights regularly cut 20 lbs or more, that kind of a water cut for Hunt is very very doable. He clearly cut water as he had a rehydration drink at the weigh in.

He weighed almost 340 lbs when he started the campe and burned off 50 - 55 lbs during camp, leaving 20 to sweat out before weighing in.

Country is never gonna slim down lol. Wasn't he 250 vs DC though? He always fluctuates. There's pics of him our of camp SLIMMER than what he usually is!

Gumbi

ASOT wrote: »

He weighed in at 264 so id say that was BS about how much weight he had to lose, because he seemed grand. Roy came in at 260. Up nearly 20lbs from when he fought DC at 166 and up 5.5 from the Nog fight, taught Roy was slimming down

It wrecks my head the amount of assumptions people make about weight cutting. The unnecessary articles don't help either.

Some light weights regularly cut 20 lbs or more, that kind of a water cut for Hunt is very very doable. He clearly cut water as he had a rehydration drink at the weigh in.

He weighed almost 340 lbs when he started the campe and burned off 50 - 55 lbs during camp, leaving 20 to sweat out before weighing in.

Country is never gonna slim down lol. Wasn't he 250 vs DC though? He always fluctuates. There's pics of him our of camp SLIMMER than what he usually is!

Mellor

Gumbi wrote: »

Some light weights regularly cut 20 lbs or more, that kind of a water cut for Hunt is very very doable. He clearly cut water as he had a rehydration drink at the weigh in.

He weighed almost 340 lbs when he started the campe and burned off 50 - 55 lbs during camp, leaving 20 to sweat out before weighing in.

I agree. The articles that mention weight cutting are always the least informed.
20lbs is an easy cut for a HW, but it's comes off over a few days, not the last 24 - or at least it should.

ASOT

Gumbi wrote: »

It wrecks my head the amount of assumptions people make about weight cutting. The unnecessary articles don't help either.

Some light weights regularly cut 20 lbs or more, that kind of a water cut for Hunt is very very doable. He clearly cut water as he had a rehydration drink at the weigh in.

He weighed almost 340 lbs when he started the campe and burned off 50 - 55 lbs during camp, leaving 20 to sweat out before weighing in.

Country is never gonna slim down lol. Wasn't he 250 vs DC though? He always fluctuates. There's pics of him our of camp SLIMMER than what he usually is!

I still think cutting 20lbs in 24hrs is a bit much, i would think what mellor says is right that it would come off in the days leading up to the fight but stranger things have happened.

I know he was never going to slim down but he was ALOT bigger than usual at the weigh ins, i taught he was closer to 240ish v DC but i could be way off. Comparing him then to now and he was way slimmer to. But thats Roy i suppose. I actually rewatched season 10 of TUF last week, Rampage really gave him **** throughout that series :pac:

Gumbi

It's totally unnecessary given that he doesn't have to lose muscle mass to be under 265, but it's not an unusually difficult cut by any means. The most competitive divisions pretty much by definition have the biggest weight cutters. FW to WW people routinely cut 15-30 pounds during fight week and put it all back on by fight night.

p to the e

mailburner wrote: »

main card starts around 8.30am saturday morn
not on bt sports 2 till sat night at 9.30

dont know tates opponent or most of the rest of the card

Saw her fight in Pancrase online a few times. I remember a few months ago telling a mate of mine to keep an eye on her as she'd be in the UFC soon. She's built up as a judo expert which could sell against Rousey if she got past Tate but to be honest I think Tate will beat her. Nakai has arms and legs the size of tree trunks which could lead to gassing out. She's definitely struggled later in the fights I've seen her in. I think Tate might be tossed around for a while but will ultimately finish her.

Would love to see Gomi get another win. He's won 3 out of his last 4 (the only loss was to another controversial Diego Sanchez decision) so a win over a rising star like Jury could start a last dash in his career. Jury will keep to a similar gameplan to his bout with Sanchez and not get caught in a stand and bang trade off.

Wrongway1985

p to the e wrote: »

Nakai has arms and legs the size of tree trunks which could lead to gassing out.

Ya noticed that in the weigh-in alright her record is one thing but we'll see if she can compete with the likes of Tate here.

Zero-Cool

Nakai is huge, looking forward to that fight.

Mellor

Just noticed Richie Walsh opponent, Kiichi Kunimoto, fights out of Kobra Kai. That's gas. He should come out in the 3rd and go for a crane kick.

Wrongway1985

Well that was disappointing dunno what Tates gameplan was, seemed like most of the fight she was happy to stay in range and leave Nakai attempt takedowns till the cows came home, Nakai on the otherhand showed herself more or less to be one dimensional luckily Tate got the decision unlike Walsh who was robbed in the previous fight.

Mellor

Richie was robbed. He list the third but he won the first two easily, rd 1 was 10-8 imo

Wrongway1985

Haha Akiyama hoping to fight Wanderlei Silva next....somebody tell him the news

Wrongway1985

Fair play to Jury a top 15 guy certainly needed next to put him in contention.

Zero-Cool

Boom!!! Fair play Hunt, dunno why he only wants rematches to finish his contract and not go on a title run.

Roar

MARK F**KIN HUNT!

Wrongway1985

Ah boy the Hunt!!

Mellor

Legend.

mailburner

my god
that is all

ASOT

Managed to wake up in time and watch the main card, Nelson went to sleep that was some KO.

Really impressed with Jury, Liked his Sanchez fight but i think that win today will get him the opponent he needs to test himself.

p to the e

I know Goldberg doesn't always get his facts straight but twice he mentioned that this was the first time Nelson was KO'd. Mr. Arlovski might have something to say about that.

He's probably way ahead of Akiyama in the rankings but would be interested in seeing a bout with Lombard. Two high level judoka could be grapple-tastic.

Hunt looked the leanest I've seen him in a while and had to cut weight to make the limit whilst Nelson looked even more "robust" than usual and possibly gained weight to get to 260.

Wrongway1985

Hunt also stated in the presser he had to cut maybe 9 pounds day before weigh in and reports saying otherwise were bull, expected really

weemcd

Hunt really has the ability to ko anyone, and his chin is legendary.

I'll always wonder in my mind how good he could have been at LHW or even Middle if he was in shape. He'd have the power to starch any of them.

Does carrying all that extra weight help with ones ability to take a punch? I dunno, like a shock absorber or something??

Gumbi

weemcd wrote: »

Hunt really has the ability to ko anyone, and his chin is legendary.

I'll always wonder in my mind how good he could have been at LHW or even Middle if he was in shape. He'd have the power to starch any of them.

Does carrying all that extra weight help with ones ability to take a punch? I dunno, like a shock absorber or something??

Not directly, but having a very low centre of gravity may help maintain stability when absorbing a shot and not have your chin rocked.

Mellor

Gumbi wrote: »

Not directly, but having a very low centre of gravity may help maintain stability when absorbing a shot and not have your chin rocked.

Plus the extra mass would impact transfer fee with a lower speed. Reduced the oul brain rattling about the skull.

Gumbi

Mellor wrote: »

Plus the extra mass would impact transfer fee with a lower speed. Reduced the oul brain rattling about the skull.

Yep. I meant to imply that with the low centre of gravity, but should have done so explicitly rather than implicitly! But now I got to use those awesome words. So it worked out better this way. :P