do current employers check your criminal history

wishmaster200

im applying for a job and have a charge against me 10 years ago for a drunkin brawl do i put it down on their application form or do i leave it out can they find out for themselves

Tigger

ah here: leave it out

wretcheddomain

wishmaster200 wrote: »

im applying for a job and have a charge against me 10 years ago for a drunkin brawl do i put it down on their application form or do i leave it out can they find out for themselves

I've already checked it out OP - your application has been cancelled.

BMJD

If they are hiring drunken brawlers then definitely mention it

Sunnyisland

If the job is as a lawyer you can leave it out :-)

kneemos

I think it's a myth,nobody can access your criminal records except you,if the employer asks for it.

The Backwards Man

If they ask 'Have you been in a drunken brawl in the last 11 years?' then mention it.

If they don't, don't.

El Weirdo

wishmaster200 wrote: »

im applying for a job and have a charge against me 10 years ago for a drunkin brawl do i put it down on their application form or do i leave it out can they find out for themselves

Depends on the job, I suppose.

The Gardaí can't give information to anyone that calls them up and asks for information on a person (there are a few exceptions). The way it normally works is you have to apply to the Garda vetting service yourself and provide the information received to your prospective employer if they request it.

Were you just charged, or did you receive a conviction?

anncoates

Unless you specifically need clearance for the job, it's highly unlikely they'll check.

Even if they do you have to give permission for them to check your record

srsly78

Many multinationals run background checks as standard procedure. They might even do this after the job has started. You could be asked to sign a data protection waiver allowing them to check your qualifications and criminal record.

Annasopra

You have to sign a garda vetting form. The gardai cant give this information without your permission.

Spring Onion

Very few employers check anything. Maybe the larger American multinationals but not always. Depends on the position too e.g. a new fund manager would get checked. Garda vetting takes forever (>6 months minimum) so most don't bother with that.

Fr_Dougal

wishmaster200 wrote: »

im applying for a job and have a charge against me 10 years ago for a drunkin brawl do i put it down on their application form or do i leave it out can they find out for themselves

Might find an answer here...

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=88451896

it appears that some fella's 'friend' was in a similar position not so long ago.

Teyla Emmagan

Can't imagine how it would be relevant to your job application to be honest. Unless they are asking specifically for you to list any criminal convictions. Just leave it out.

Avada

It depends, if you're applying for the Guards etc, they'll check.

But then again, with the Guards and assault charge will probably work in your favour, you can skip that part in templemore

major bill

Depends on what the Job is, does the job require a security check on your background? if not I would say nothing

wishmaster200

El Weirdo wrote: »

Depends on the job, I suppose.

The Gardaí can't give information to anyone that calls them up and asks for information on a person (there are a few exceptions). The way it normally works is you have to apply to the Garda vetting service yourself and provide the information received to your prospective employer if they request it.

Were you just charged, or did you receive a conviction?

it was a conviction 10 years ago, young and stupid i was, other than that i have nothing else on record as for the job its nothing more than a general operator in a factory

seamus

Don't say anything. They can't check.

If they do find out, you'll get fired and you're back where you were before you applied. You have nothing to lose by omitting it.

anncoates

wishmaster200 wrote: »

it was a conviction 10 years ago, young and stupid i was, other than that i have nothing else on record as for the job its nothing more than a general operator in a factory

As said, don't mention it. They can't check without your permission.

Even if they did find out years down the line and you were a very good employee, they might not even care.

Dr. Mantis Toboggan

A drunken brawl?? Where were you? In a saloon in the wild west?

NewCorkLad

TheZohan wrote: »

Might find an answer here...

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=88451896

it appears that some fella's 'friend' was in a similar position not so long ago.

LOL same guy:D

BattleCorp

If you are going for an operative job in a factory, then keep quiet about your conviction.

They won't do a background check on you for that kind of job so they won't find out.

That is unless a record of your crime is on the internet. If a quick google search of your name doesn't show it up, then you are in the clear.

Warper

kneemos wrote: »

I think it's a myth,nobody can access your criminal records except you,if the employer asks for it.

What about public sector jobs?

SEPT 23 1989

cover up your shiners with makeup for the interview Popeye

jimgoose

Warper wrote: »

What about public sector jobs?

Organisations such as the Department of Education and the RSA, as well as any organisation that wishes to have employees Garda vetted, must register as such with the Garda Central Vetting Unit in Thurles. A single authorised person of that organisation then forwards vetting request forms to the CVU.

ScumLord

Just set your criminal history to private and change your password.

gesler

Not as often as you would think, as manager I have advertised for and hired maybe 20 staff in the last 5 years and not once have I checked criminal records, wouldn't even know how to get a persons criminal record.

gesler

Not as often as you would think, as a manager I have advertised for and hired maybe 20 staff in the last 5 years and not once have I checked criminal records, wouldn't even know how to get a persons criminal record.

jimgoose

gesler wrote: »

Not as often as you would think, as a manager I have advertised for and hired maybe 20 staff in the last 5 years and not once have I checked criminal records, wouldn't even know how to get a persons criminal record.

As the CEO or MD of the organisation wanting to do vetting, you apply in writing to the Garda Central Vetting Unit setting out the following:

" - A description of the service provided by the organisation
- The approximate number of personnel requiring vetting per annum
- The level of substantial unsupervised access personnel will have to children and/or vulnerable adults
- Any additional relevant information e.g. organisational literature orcertificates of registration in respect of charitable status"

The GCVU then decides whether or not to provide vetting to you. You don't just start doing it because some pimply little fartbollix like Mark Zuckerburg thinks it'd be pretty super neat-o. :pac::pac::pac:

Robsweezie

robbed a bit of pick n mix from spar in 2002

Lenin Skynard

It's none of their beeswax OP. Unless you're working with children or vulnerable adults. Every Joe Bloggs can set up a lemonade stand and pay someone to help them, it doesn't give them any more access to Garda records than anyone else.

ScumLord

Robsweezie wrote: »

robbed a bit of pick n mix from spar in 2002

I've waited patiently because I knew one day you'd slip up, and now that you've admitted it on a public forum I can bring down the terrible justice of the Gardi. Stay there you are while I dial 999 and report you for the pick and mix crime of the century.

kneemos

Warper wrote: »

What about public sector jobs?

Teacher,Guards,lifeguards and anybody in contact with children or money presumably need a backround check.
Most of them are headbangers anyway.