Irish Citizen marriage in Turkey to non EEA spouse

MiniMeMiniMo

Hi All, I hope somebody here has some experience with something like my case.

I'm Irish and am living in Ireland. My girlfriend is Argentinian and was living in Ireland for over two years - 1 year on a working holiday visa and another year on a student visa. Back in April of this year she applied to renew her student visa but due to her poor attendance record at the school INIS wouldn't renew the visa and instead they referred it to Dept of Justice. She had been seeing a doctor for depression and she appealed the decision based on this.

We were waiting to hear about the appeal for a long time and repeatedly went into the INIS office (3 times to see if they had made a decision). Each time they told us to email Justice to get a response - we emailed 17 times in total.... to no avail and we decided to risk it and go on holidays to Italy. On returning to Ireland she was refused entry because she had continued working in Ireland while waiting on the visa appeal and her previous visa was expired at that stage. They gave her 7 days to pack her things and leave, which she did - under a lot of stress.

She's been out of Ireland for 3 months now and we really want to be together. We recently traveled to Greece together for two weeks and now she is staying in Istanbul with a friend.

We are hoping that she can (a) come back to Ireland some time soon and we can get married here or (b) I can go over to Turkey, with the right paper work etc and get married there and then she can come back with me as my spouse. It seems getting married in Turkey is the easier option as (1) if she comes back to Ireland to get married we run the risk of her being refused entry again and (2) it's quicker in Turkey - we don't have to register our intent 3 months before the marriage as in Ireland etc.

So my question is two fold (1) if we get married in Turkey and then she travels with me back to Ireland is it likely that they may refuse her entry again? (2) If she does get into Ireland and we try to register her for residency with me is there a chance that her previously refusal of entry/overstay on her visa effect the outcome?

Thanks for any help, insights or advice. If anything isn't clear please ask.

Pro Hoc Vice

How important is this to you?

Pat Mustard

You could try these people, who offer legal advice to migrants.

http://www.nascireland.org/

MiniMeMiniMo

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

How important is this to you?

Very important. The other option is to leave Ireland - but I only moved back a year ago from living in the US for two years and South America for the same period so I'm not ready to emigrate just yet.

If you're asking me that to make sure I've thought through the consequences etc I have.

Any advice is welcomed.

Dandelion6

There is a possibility of her being refused on entry, though if she does get through her previous history probably won't count against her as long as you can prove the marriage is genuine.

Alternatively, if you're not ready to leave Ireland, you could get work in Northern Ireland and she would be allowed to join you as you would be exercising your EU Treaty rights.

old_aussie

Is Turkey a full menber of the EU?

SpaceTime

old_aussie wrote: »

Is Turkey a full menber of the EU?

No. It's also not a member of the EEA.

Pro Hoc Vice

MiniMeMiniMo wrote: »

Very important. The other option is to leave Ireland - but I only moved back a year ago from living in the US for two years and South America for the same period so I'm not ready to emigrate just yet.

If you're asking me that to make sure I've thought through the consequences etc I have.

Any advice is welcomed.

No I was saying you should go to a professional in this area, you have already made one serious mistake and may be making a second, in that you may not need to marry to get this sorted. Any good professional would have advised you on how to sort this. If either of ye had a illness you would be at a doctors not on the internet. Immigration is a serious issue and complex if you want to sort it get good advice from a immigration solicitor.

MiniMeMiniMo

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

No I was saying you should go to a professional in this area, you have already made one serious mistake and may be making a second, in that you may not need to marry to get this sorted. Any good professional would have advised you on how to sort this. If either of ye had a illness you would be at a doctors not on the internet. Immigration is a serious issue and complex if you want to sort it get good advice from a immigration solicitor.

Thanks, do you have any recommendations for professionals?

Pro Hoc Vice

MiniMeMiniMo wrote: »

Thanks, do you have any recommendations for professionals?

Not allowed on this forum, find other people in immigrant community and take advice or google. There are very few solicitors in this area a couple in Dublin and cork.

MiniMeMiniMo

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

No I was saying you should go to a professional in this area, you have already made one serious mistake and may be making a second, in that you may not need to marry to get this sorted.

Do you mean that we could de facto relationship? That's not an option for us. Can you tell me what the other options are apart from marriage?

Cushie Butterfield

Immigration support groups near you:

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Crosscare Migrant Project
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Immigrant Council of Ireland
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Cork
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