Think somebody just tried to scam me!

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Leaving my estate you come to a crossroads, major road running left-right, minor road/equal importance facing me. I checked for approaching cars and noticed one to my left, left indicator on and already starting it's turn.

I pulled out, next thing I caught a glimpse of it coming towards my passenger door. I was too far out to stop, he wouldn't have got by, so I accelerated and got out of there. Very close call.

It did occur to me that I might have gotten it wrong and he could have been approaching the major road from the opposite direction to me, but two things make me feel it was an attempted scam. One was the fact that he didn't slow down, flash the lights or blow the horn, rather sped up to collide and the other was the car was a ball of shyte, I glimpsed the 96 of the registration plate through the window.

I'm 90% sure someone waited to see an approaching car, indicated and started to turn then suddenly swerved and tried to t-bone me.

Have to be wary these days.

colm_mcm

Can you draw a picture, I can't figure what you mean,

http://www.accidentsketch.com

Sir Arthur Daley

Very confusing altogether.

For Forks Sake

Not such a cunning linguist in reality. I'm very confused.

Fuzzy Clam

Trying to make sense of the post. Which direction were you going?

Rubberchikken

Yeah it's possible.
Hard to believe a person would chance doing something like that toaybe get something on your insc.
Strange world;)

monkeysnapper

I want to understand but my brain (small ) can't reg either , do us up a map boss's

Sir Arthur Daley

The other car was on the major road i think.

beauf

You can never trust another driver, regardless if it has its indicator on or not.

If its a taxi or a bus. Don't trust it even if its parked, on street, off street.

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

I'll sketch this better when I'm on the laptop, but if you take it I'm the yellow car, I was turning right, and expecting the green car to go left, which he'd already started doing albeit very slowly. I'm convinced he then swerved sharply right, back onto the main road and accelerated towards me.

It did occur to me that it may have been another car which approached the main road from the opposite direction to me, and they turned left, but I'm 90% sure that that's not the case.

Hope I'm explaining a bit better.

colm_mcm

You're on the wrong side of the road

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

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Lucy and Harry

Tell the Gardai as he may be trying that again in the same location to get some body else in the scam. ''OHH MY BACK'' claim smell Yoda does.

ahnowbrowncow

The Cunning Linguist wrote: »

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Is that a fullstop/period or a really really really small sketch of the incident? It's not helping my confusion.

Fuzzy Clam

The Cunning Linguist wrote: »

It did occur to me that it may have been another car which approached the main road from the opposite direction to me, and they turned left, but I'm 90% sure that that's not the case.

Hope I'm explaining a bit better.

You,re not sure if there was a car opposite that would have turned in the same direction as you?

Sir Arthur Daley

The Cunning Linguist wrote: »

It did occur to me that it may have been another car which approached the main road from the opposite direction to me, and they turned left, but I'm 90% sure that that's not the case.

Is there now 3 cars involved, why arent you 100% sure of what happened?

Lucy and Harry

Are you a learner driver OP?

Tail Docker

Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

Is there now 3 cars involved, why arent you 100% sure of what happened?

Some scammy scummer tried to t-bone him after pretending they were turning by boshing on the indicator, then flooring it straight ahead. FFS, how hard is it to understand? Happens a lot. Scummers abound.

monkeysnapper

colm_mcm wrote: »

Can you draw a picture, I can't figure what you mean,

http://www.accidentsketch.com

That's very cool :0)

_Kaiser_

I don't get it?

So the OP approaches a crossroads and sees a car on his left with it's indicator on (turning right onto the same road the OP is leaving?)

The OP pulls out anyway(!!!) turning right - thus his passenger door is facing the turning car - and there's almost a collision

... OR the other car was facing him and turning left onto the main road - but again the OP pulls out anyway and the car decided to proceed straight ahead instead nearly running into the side of the OP??

If either is accurate then why did the OP pull out into oncoming/turning traffic that had the right of way in both scenarios?

K.Flyer

And the Motto of the Story is...


Never trust an indicator...

Sir Arthur Daley

Tail Docker wrote: »

Some scammy scummer tried to t-bone him after pretending they were turning by boshing on the indicator, then flooring it straight ahead. FFS, how hard is it to understand? Happens a lot. Scummers abound.

And what direction was the op going?

Quazzie

Tail Docker wrote: »

Some scammy scummer tried to t-bone him after pretending they were turning by boshing on the indicator, then flooring it straight ahead. FFS, how hard is it to understand? Happens a lot. Scummers abound.

Yea but now there is a third car involved and perhaps the FBI were in on it all along/

Tail Docker

Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

And what direction was the op going?

Who cares. It's a variety of "flash for cash". "Come ahead my good man....bang"

tomaussie

It's not a scam.

Look closer.

Now you see it.

Woman driver.

Sir Arthur Daley

Tail Docker wrote: »

Who cares. It's a variety of "flash for cash". "Come ahead my good man....bang"

Its very relevant to the story, people cant just pull out on to a major road presuming one thing or another, its not as clear cut as that.

For Forks Sake

colm_mcm wrote: »

Can you draw a picture, I can't figure what you mean,

http://www.accidentsketch.com

That's pretty cool. <goes to design racetrack>

delly

Come on folks, it's not that hard. Using the clock as a reference and knowing it is a crossroads, OP is on minor road 6, going right in the direction of major road 3. Other car is coming from major road 9, indicating to minor road 12 and actually starts turning into 12. OP starts his turn towards 3, but the other car then decides he wants to head to 3 as well and almost takes out the OP.

.....12....
.....12....
.....12....
999...333
......6.....
......6.....
......6.....

Quazzie

delly wrote: »

Come on folks, it's not that hard. Using the clock as a reference and knowing it is a crossroads, OP is on minor road 6, going right in the direction of major road 3. Other car is coming from major road 9, indicating to minor road 12 and actually starts turning into 12. OP starts his turn towards 3, but the other car then decides he wants to head to 3 as well and almost takes out the OP.

.....12....
.....12....
.....12....
999...333
......6.....
......6.....
......6.....

But where did the third car come into it, and is that clock am or pm?

Sir Arthur Daley

The op was in the wrong to have entered the main road, regardless of the other cars indicators the op should have waited for that car to either exit the main road or go straight on.
If the op was to do that doing a driving test what would the result be?

Autosport

tomaussie wrote: »

It's not a scam.

Look closer.

Now you see it.

Woman driver.

There's always one :rolleyes:

tomaussie

Autosport wrote: »

There's always one :rolleyes:

I think you'll find there are many more than one which makes it all the more dangerous.

V Eight

delly wrote: »

Come on folks, it's not that hard. Using the clock as a reference and knowing it is a crossroads, OP is on minor road 6, going right in the direction of major road 3. Other car is coming from major road 9, indicating to minor road 12 and actually starts turning into 12. OP starts his turn towards 3, but the other car then decides he wants to head to 3 as well and almost takes out the OP.

.....12....
.....12....
.....12....
999...333
......6.....
......6.....
......6.....

Impressive diagram!

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

delly wrote: »

Come on folks, it's not that hard. Using the clock as a reference and knowing it is a crossroads, OP is on minor road 6, going right in the direction of major road 3. Other car is coming from major road 9, indicating to minor road 12 and actually starts turning into 12. OP starts his turn towards 3, but the other car then decides he wants to head to 3 as well and almost takes out the OP.

.....12....
.....12....
.....12....
999...333
......6.....
......6.....
......6.....

This, fcuking this!! Yeeha.

I did question was I going mad, did a car approach from 12 and turn to 3, but I wrote that idea off fairly quickly, and came to the conclusion that some yahoo had indeed tried it on.

delly

Quazzie wrote: »

But where did the third car come into it?

Chief Wiggum: Oh my god, it just disappeared! (Gasp) It's a ghost car! There are ghost cars all over these highways you know.

dmc17

Here's my understanding of the whole scene


****may or may not be accurate****

Quazzie

The Cunning Linguist wrote: »

This, fcuking this!! Yeeha.
Ah, it makes perfect sense.

The Cunning Linguist wrote: »

I did question was I going mad, did a car approach from 12 and turn to 3, but I wrote that idea off fairly quickly, and came to the conclusion that some yahoo had indeed tried it on.

So you're actually not 100% certain the car was coming from your left(9), it might have come from straight on (12). Now I'm confused again.

Sir Arthur Daley

dmc17 wrote: »

Here's my understanding of the whole scene


****may or may not be accurate****

Has the red car its back diff welded?

Autosport

tomaussie wrote: »

I think you'll find there are many more than one which makes it all the more dangerous.

I meant you were off topic :P

and as a woman driver I couldn't care less what you think of us :cool:

dmc17

Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

Has the red car its back diff welded?

Its quite possible

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Quazzie wrote: »

So you're actually not 100% certain the car was coming from your left(9), it might have come from straight on (12). Now I'm confused again.

In a rare moment of self-doubt, I did indeed ponder the fact that someone may not have tried to scam me, and a third car may have joined the party and pulled out from the number 12 onto the main road number 3 at the same time as me fein, but I quickly ushered those thoughts out of my head, and concluded that some lowlife was chasing a dishonest days pay.

Capiche?

Spook_ie

Quite possible the driver was lost and looking for a turn, sees what they think is the correct turn, indicates and the decides it's not the correct turn he's looking for.

Given that you were joining a major road the onus on you is to wait

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Spook_ie wrote: »

Quite possible the driver was lost and looking for a turn, sees what they think is the correct turn, indicates and the decides it's not the correct turn he's looking for.

Given that you were joining a major road the onus on you is to wait

Then gives it welly to try and blow me out of his way?

Quazzie

I was always thought that an indicator is just that. It's an indication of intent to turn, not that the car will actually be turning. The person could've been pulling into the left just after the turn, or pulling into a house. Never act on an indicator.

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Quazzie wrote: »

I was always thought that an indicator is just that. It's an indication of intent to turn, not that the car will actually be turning. The person could've been pulling into the left just after the turn, or pulling into a house. Never act on an indicator.

That is true. But he'd started his turn, I'm 100% sure of that.

Sir Arthur Daley

The other driver maybe made a wrong turning off and corrected themselves to go straight ahead, like another poster said also maybe they were turning off for another junction. The possibilites are endless.
Bottom line is one cant enter a major road presuming a car is turning off or whatever else.

Tail Docker

dmc17 wrote: »

Its quite possible

Only cissies weld the back diff. Welding the front one is where it's at. Steer that, tough guy.

biko

tomaussie wrote: »

It's not a scam.

Look closer.

Now you see it.

Woman driver.

tomaussie wrote: »

I think you'll find there are many more than one which makes it all the more dangerous.

Congrats, you win a holiday

keithclancy

The other one i've seen is they pull out onto the main road with the ass of the car towards you and then stop dead on the road.

djimi

K.Flyer wrote: »

And the Motto of the Story is...


Never trust an indicator...

Yup. Learned this lesson, almost the hard way, very early on in my driving life. Indicators mean nothing, even someone starting to turn means very little. I wont pull out in front of an indicating car until they have basically almost entirely completed their turn off the road I am turning onto. Too many times I have seen cars start to turn and then change their mind half way through and swerve back out onto the main road again. Likewise with indicators; the amount of cars I have seen indicating left and then sailing past the junction.

General rule of thumb is assume that other drivers are all morons and an alarming amount of the time you wont be wrong...

yop

Not sure OP, seems to me that they had a rogue indicator which you should never heed anyway or they were lost and thought they were taking the correct turn, only to change their mind. Or of course they were looking for an insurance jobbie!
If a crash did occur though the Gardai would have done you I suspect. There seems to be too many factors which would have to occur for them to be sitting there waiting to scam someone.
At least you came out of it ok anyway.