best paying beef cattle

farm14

Which is best paying beef cattle out their if their is any!?

stack18

farm14 wrote: »

Which is best paying beef cattle out their if their is any!?

Chx out of a SIM cow ticks all the boxes for us and weanling to beef cause the good weanling is never seen in a Mart again.

_Brian

farm14 wrote: »

Which is best paying beef cattle out their if their is any!?

Was in our local mart on Saturday, first of the autumn sales..

Bright golden spring born CH bulls 350-380kg were making ~€550 along with their weight.. so taking a production cost of ~€600-650 they would have been leaving €300 net/head. Heifers much the same although some of the heifers looked overdone with meal..

Mousey brown or poorly marked CH making €100-€150/head less.

I'm not saying this the best system, but they are out the gate well before winter, not wintering animals that leave maybe €300 net isn't bad considering where the industry is at the moment.

Is €600-650 still a realistic figure for getting a weanling to mart ?

blue5000

farm14 wrote: »

Which is best paying beef cattle out their if their is any!?

Cull cows;)

Muckit

The ones in ap2014's field?

AP2014

Muckit wrote: »

The ones in ap2014's field?

Mainly white CHX a few LIM. One or two brown CHX that I always get less for, no matter what weight. I am at the stage where I tell dealer white CHX if possible if not LIM.

have said it before and will say it again when a white CHX comes into the ring no stopping lads. I hope I am saying it come Nov.

mf240

AP2014 wrote: »

Mainly white CHX a few LIM. One or two brown CHX that I always get less for, no matter what weight. I am at the stage where I tell dealer white CHX if possible if not LIM.

have said it before and will say it again when a white CHX comes into the ring no stopping lads. I hope I am saying it come Nov.

Are they no dearer to buy aswell?

Op buy anything thats cheap and looks like it will thrive. As long as its healthy.

smokey-fitz

Cant go to wrong with hex at the moment, will finish on grass or finished with very little meal and go well out wintered to if set up is restricting.. plus the factories that give bonus for them help..

Anyone with lim calves out of he or hex cows? How would they do?

AP2014

mf240 wrote: »

Are they no dearer to buy aswell?

Op buy anything thats cheap and looks like it will thrive. As long as its healthy.

You are dead right but as you said I try and buy cheap and something that will thrive, usually around 250kg - 300kg. Other lads wouldn't look at them and would be paying 1000 to 1100 for 400kg white chxs over the last few yrs. Crazy money not sure how they leave anything behind.

I don't know about your line to buy anything that is cheap and will thrive. Neighbours have told me to get into freisans and white heads. But I have seen lads struggle to even get a bid on these at marts in nov. I can't winter them so need to sell in November and even with brown chxs I have had to run them through the ring twice a few years.

If things are to change with factory specs I will change next March. But at the moment looking at mart reports white chx seem to be getting the big prices. I don't understand why if you are penalised for over 400kg but I will continue to buy what lads want to buy in nov and even with current crisis that seems to be chx.

I wouldn't like to be heading to mart with Friesans in a few weeks.

mahoney_j

The one that u can fatten on as much grass and little meal as possible with good feet and decent width and height.

FarmerDougal

AP2014 wrote: »

Mainly white CHX a few LIM. One or two brown CHX that I always get less for, no matter what weight. I am at the stage where I tell dealer white CHX if possible if not LIM.

have sayid it before and will say it again when a white CHX comes into the ring no stopping lads. I hope I am saying it come Nov.

Orange chx sells better almost always over a white when comparing two similar sized/grade animals.

AP2014

FarmerDougal wrote: »

Orange chx sells better almost always over a white when comparing two similar sized/grade animals.[/QUOTE

Interesting, would ya buy them for the same price as a white? Had an orange last year that I put in with a lim and didn't get on great.

In fairness he was a nice animal and the lim wasn't. Prob should have went with singles.

simx

blue5000 wrote: »

Cull cows;)

can be ok at times, chancey animals, dont forget 60 or 70 big friesian cows eat all around them too, and dont get me started about mastitis

Count Mondego

Out of our own mixed herd of cows, the best stock we have are from LM bull and SimX cows. All the calves bring a LM look but have a great frame that we can finish off grass. LM with CH cows are great cattle but I find that the calf mortality with CH is high, We rarely lose any but when we do it's from a CH.

FarmerDougal

AP2014 wrote: »

FarmerDougal wrote: »

Orange chx sells better almost always over a white when comparing two similar sized/grade animals.[/QUOTE

Interesting, would ya buy them for the same price as a white? Had an orange last year that I put in with a lim and didn't get on great.

In fairness he was a nice animal and the lim wasn't. Prob should have went with singles.

No, more expensive. Keep a mixture of orange and white here, an odd brown or red as well like yourself

FarmerDougal

AP2014 wrote: »

FarmerDougal wrote: »

Orange chx sells better almost always over a white when comparing two similar sized/grade animals.[/QUOTE

Interesting, would ya buy them for the same price as a white? Had an orange last year that I put in with a lim and didn't get on great.

In fairness he was a nice animal and the lim wasn't. Prob should have went with singles.

No, more expensive. Keep a mixture of orange and white here, an odd brown or red as well like yourself

FarmerDougal

mahoney_j wrote: »

The one that u can fatten on as much grass and little meal as possible with good feet and decent width and height.

Length most important factor when buying to finish off grass

FarmerDougal

farm14 wrote: »

Which is best paying beef cattle out their if their is any!?

From a finishing point of view, an animal that will thrive from start (not overfed) has length, good bone, ability to build frame, will thrive on grass, respond to concentrate, flesh easily and grade well

Muckit

blue5000 wrote: »

Cull cows;)

Are there many suckler lad's culling heavily this year? Might make as much on the cow as the calf.

Robson99

Orange/ Yellow charlaois always here. Much easier to fatten imo