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The futility of land eligibility

  • 15-09-2014 5:41am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭


    This "road way" in the photo on my farm is deemed in eligible non farmed land.

    I think we really rolled over and took it off the department on this one. Every acre inside our boundary should be considered agricultural use the new land eligibility criteria is the greatest load of bull **** up there with the 30 month rule and the QA scheme .

    They should have just said ' hey we are tight on money we need to cut the single farm payment' instead of subjecting farmers to mind boggling inspections and filling maps with amendments and extra red lines and LPIS numbers.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Miname


    20silkcut wrote: »
    This "road way" in the photo on my farm is deemed in eligible non farmed land.

    I think we really rolled over and took it off the department on this one. Every acre inside our boundary should be considered agricultural use the new land eligibility criteria is the greatest load of bull **** up there with the 30 month rule and the QA scheme .

    They should have just said ' hey we are tight on money we need to cut the single farm payment' instead of subjecting farmers to mind boggling inspections and filling maps with amendments and extra red lines and LPIS numbers.
    Have to agree the fact farm yards aren't included aswell is a bit of a joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭KatyMac


    Totally agree - what are we all doing on our farm tracks if not farming? Same for the yards, last time I looked we were inclined to keep 'farm animals' and 'farm machinery' in them. and don't get me started on the trees that we were supposed to have planted under REPS or some other scheme and have now grown big enough to be seen from above and are now considered ineligible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭JohnBoy


    The department come up with some mad stuff at times alright, but land elligibility rules aint one of em, that stuff comes direct from europe and they get audited regularly and rigorously on it.

    And I suppose if europe are gonna give people money they have a right to decide exactly how much money to pay out on.

    seems kinda mad here with entitlements working the way they do with different values,stacking, reference years and the like, but in a flat rate system the amount of elligible land decides exactly how much a farmer is entitled to be paid, so it matters a lot to europe.




    to the OP? stick a gate wire across each end and a water trough in the middle and call it a rough paddock :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭ellewood


    I had an inspection last year with a lane something similar

    At first he wanted to dock it 100% but as it can be grazed he let it off maybe if it had been winter covered in mud instead of grass it might have different

    Also the fact that there was no hardcore on it and its wider than normal - it had tractor tracks dug up true it tho..

    He then went on to measure bushes with a tape and mark them off maps!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    ellewood wrote: »
    I had an inspection last year with a lane something similar

    At first he wanted to dock it 100% but as it can be grazed he let it off maybe if it had been winter covered in mud instead of grass it might have different

    Also the fact that there was no hardcore on it and its wider than normal - it had tractor tracks dug up true it tho..

    He then went on to measure bushes with a tape and mark them off maps!!

    To me that is the greatest waste of time ever. All it needed was a blanket cut to the sfp which they do anyway and call it financial discipline or modulation or whatever.
    Then the department could have let go a few inspectors trim down the wage bill save a few more euro. But no they sent them out measuring bushes And chasing shadows on satellite maps tormenting the living ****e out of farmers it is absolute insanity.
    And we pay for it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    ellewood wrote: »

    He then went on to measure bushes with a tape and mark them off maps!!

    I hope it was a whitethorn bush or something similar that was encouraged under reps and that he measured carefully getting his head right in there (for an accurate reading obviously)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    20silkcut wrote: »
    This "road way" in the photo on my farm is deemed in eligible non farmed land.
    /quote]

    By "roadway" you mean that area where those 4 legged animals appear to be eating some green stuff similar to the green stuff that appears to be on the other side of those fences too.

    I thought that was your setup for that creep grazing that Teagasc do be on about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    they marked off a lot of raods on my land too but I removed them this year and made a road in a different shorter route, so with all theyre red lines through my land they will have to change them all again


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