New Slat tank in existing shed

TITANIUM.

well Guys, Has anyone ever Put in,Seen or heard of a new Tank and slats being retro fitted into an existing shed,
This Particular shed is split with cubicles on one side, a 6ft dividing wall and an open area (Currently used for Hay and straw on the Far side).
The shed is really under utilised these days in its current form. Any the other slatted unit is over crowded without enough capacity in the tank.
I was thinking of Feed barrier Slat Lie back area and an indoor crush incorporated somewhere to the rear.
FEASIBLE????
Cheers

KCTK

TITANIUM. wrote: »

well Guys, Has anyone ever Put in,Seen or heard of a new Tank and slats being retro fitted into an existing shed,
This Particular shed is split with cubicles on one side, a 6ft dividing wall and an open area (Currently used for Hay and straw on the Far side).
The shed is really under utilised these days in its current form. Any the other slatted unit is over crowded without enough capacity in the tank.
I was thinking of Feed barrier Slat Lie back area and an indoor crush incorporated somewhere to the rear.
FEASIBLE????
Cheers

I have it done in 2 existing sheds, only thing I will say is the sheds are on solid ground with rock only a few feet down, don't know if I'd be comfortable doing it if ground was poor as the shed might end up in d hole.

epfff

KCTK wrote: »

I have it done in 2 existing sheds, only thing I will say is the sheds are on solid ground with rock only a few feet down, don't know if I'd be comfortable doing it if ground was poor as the shed might end up in d hole.

Ive done it
Im in great sandy ground
It was an 4 bay 22ft wagon style hay shed
Dug it with 13. Ton machine needed ever bit of hight in the shed for boom
Kept the tank fairly central to avaid it failing in
Seen two others one fell in the other guy braced the shed with steal itvwas lots of work but he was happy at it

farmerjj

epfff wrote: »

Ive done it
Im in great sandy ground
It was an 4 bay 22ft wagon style hay shed
Dug it with 13. Ton machine needed ever bit of hight in the shed for boom
Kept the tank fairly central to avaid it failing in
Seen two others one fell in the other guy braced the shed with steal itvwas lots of work but he was happy at it

Would it be safer to remove the roof 1st?

Sam Kade

farmerjj wrote: »

Would it be safer to remove the roof 1st?

Taking the roof off would defy the purpose you may as well build a new shed. I've seen sheds braced with esb poles where they dug close to the post.

dzer2

Done one here yrs ago beside silage wall, some effort needed to do it if you are paying a contractor there will be a large bill as its not easy.

Points to consider

Can you dig it without damaging the roof
type of ground
can you reach both ends with concrete lorry
can you reach both ends if long for agitating
Ventilation needs to be more over slurry than dung.

yellow50HX

TITANIUM. wrote: »

well Guys, Has anyone ever Put in,Seen or heard of a new Tank and slats being retro fitted into an existing shed,
This Particular shed is split with cubicles on one side, a 6ft dividing wall and an open area (Currently used for Hay and straw on the Far side).
The shed is really under utilised these days in its current form. Any the other slatted unit is over crowded without enough capacity in the tank.
I was thinking of Feed barrier Slat Lie back area and an indoor crush incorporated somewhere to the rear.
FEASIBLE????
Cheers

Like the other said, how much room have you in side the shed to put your digger and where were you planning to put the tank and how big?
What was your plan for the shed will you be using the cubicles?

I assume you are planning on putting it in the open area and splitting this into a feeding passage and tank area?

If you are planning on keeping the cubicles and using the tank as a feeding passage it might be easier to built a tank just outside the shed and put in auto scrapers (or tractor) to clean down to the tank.

TITANIUM.

yellow50HX wrote: »

Like the other said, how much room have you in side the shed to put your digger and where were you planning to put the tank and how big?
What was your plan for the shed will you be using the cubicles?

I assume you are planning on putting it in the open area and splitting this into a feeding passage and tank area?

If you are planning on keeping the cubicles and using the tank as a feeding passage it might be easier to built a tank just outside the shed and put in auto scrapers (or tractor) to clean down to the tank.

Twould be fairly tight along both sides for a machine to operate in alright. A 13 ton as Previously mentioned would struggle. I must go back and measure it up. Will let ye know then. There a redundant milking parlour adjacent to the open area that will be going.
Tis built on a strong enough bed of limestone. If there's allot of rock to be broken I suppose im goosed.
Thanks lads

Miname

build it new if you have the space and try and convert the shed for something else. the shed is the cheap part.

TITANIUM.

Miname wrote: »

build it new if you have the space and try and convert the shed for something else. the shed is the cheap part.

Beginning to come around to the inevitable new build slowly but surely

longgonesilver

I heard of one dug in a leanto with poor head room. He dug from outside the door first with a track machine but only down four or five feet. The restof the soil was pushed out with a small bulldozer. When he was finished the eight foot doorway in the end of the shed was still intact and the builder propped it and build the tank under it.

Brown Podzol

A lot of the conversions done around here were dug out with a trax loader like this one.

http://twentywheels.com/category/22-business__industrial_construction_heavy_equipment__trailers_crawler_dozers__loaders_/page_2.html

lakill Farm

the poster patqfarmer off here is at one at the minute in an existing hayshed.

he has been posting pictures on twitter

could maybe ask him. currently the tank is dug and tank was shuttered and poured about 2 weeks ago

Miname

why look for so much hardship. lad digging is going to want more money, lad dropping shutters in will want more, then you'll need a conveyor instead of a normal. lifting shutters would even be torture unless you went for the real small light weight ones, then theres getting the slats on. how do you get them in. then theres the big concrete areas round the slats that will have to go in cause the slats wont be able to run out tight. when alls brought into account theres too much messing and too much extra cost.

TITANIUM.

lakill Farm wrote: »

the poster patqfarmer off here is at one at the minute in an existing hayshed.

he has been posting pictures on twitter

could maybe ask him. currently the tank is dug and tank was shuttered and poured about 2 weeks ago

Ya twould be great to see how he got on and if twas worth the extra effort.

Farmer Pudsey

Titanium, it is more than likly too late this year to do. If doing a projuct like that you need to do in summer ass risk of water logged soil causing issues. If the shed is joined by otherv sheds you may be able to suspend some of the shed. If A roofed over a central passage you can pin back support beam at bottom to RSJ's on other side of passage use 3'' angle straigh accross passage.

If side walls can be kept straight it may be feasible to case around them and pour concrete all around. However you will use a lot of extra concrete and you will need a shuttering contractor that know what he is doing as it needs to be well braced. In this case you fit tank in hole and worry about size of slats after.

einn32

It could be a tricky project to say the least. We put a slatted shed between two existing cubicle sheds. Whilst there was an open area to dig in there was the issue of subsidence of the existing sheds. Also if you need to break rock then vibration comes in to play. So many
things can cause issues. Your also trying to build around something that may not be in line etc.

When you start building the access can be a headache. Little thing like needing a conveyor cement truck adds to cost. Back filling could be very slow. Lot to think of so . plan carefully.

locha

has anyone here extended their slatted tanks? We have an old shed 30 years old. The tanks are fine. The plan was to build a new shed beside it but the way the yard works it would be better if we could extend the existing shed. Has anyone done this? It has two double tanks in it.