job offer to good to be true????

edoo91

got a job offer in Canada... it's through a recruitment company called gel Ltd in Londonderry anyone ever deal with these or know anyone who has thanks guys

the_syco

Have they asked you to pay anything?

spurious

Their website doesn't throw up anything suspicious to me.
http://gelltd.com/

red dave

Is this a shill?

Tar.Aldarion

should be pretty easy to see if a company is hiring you?

edoo91

100£ admin fee that's all just know of a mate who went over and it didn't work out so just putting it out their

red dave

edoo91 wrote: »

100£ admin fee that's all just know of a mate who went over and it didn't work out so just putting it out their

Any job offer where you have to pay my advice would be to steer well clear. That is unless a fee is for some professional exam you'd have to take entering a country.

FobleAsNuck

^^ THIS. if you have to pay, it's most likely a scam

edoo91

that's what I taught the man on the phone said you have to pay it if your successful maybe for visa and paper work???

MagicMarker

If your mate already did this then why are you asking us?

edoo91

he said to put it up here n get feed back no need to be like that simple question that's all

red dave

Did your mate pay the fee and then told the job was no longer available or is he stuck in another country?

edoo91

he was stuck over their same thing went for interview paid administration fees and all went over worked for a few weeks and the company said it not working out n told to go home

edoo91

yeah that's exactly it red Dave

MagicMarker

edoo91 wrote: »

he was stuck over their same thing went for interview paid administration fees and all went over worked for a few weeks and the company said it not working out n told to go home

Does this not tell you all you need to know?

If you want to go to Canada just get a visa and go, there's plenty of jobs there to get when you arrive.

edoo91

thanks guys

MagicMarker

MagicMarker wrote: »

there's plenty of jobs there to get when you arrive.

Is that true, though? I've heard of a few people getting stuck.

I would love to go over for a few months. Work some crappy 9-5 for a little while and see some of the place. Then come home and have a mug of tea to relax and take it all in.

the_syco

edoo91 wrote: »

he was stuck over their same thing went for interview paid administration fees and all went over worked for a few weeks and the company said it not working out n told to go home

Did they pay him for the work that he did? Also, was the work he was doing on the up and up? As in, what he signed up for, or was it something different when he got over there?

Deleted User wrote: »

Is that true, though? I've heard of a few people getting stuck.

If you goto a place where there are loads of unemployed Irish, yeah. Like Oz, the paddies tend to congregate to one area, and then wonder where the jobs are. But you'll hear of Irish men and women going beyond that small area, and getting a job where there is a demand.

pistol1234

i have an interview with this crowd on mon,they said the £100 is refunded if you dont get the job. i'm an electrician and the job is in alberta , 14 days on and 7 off and they fly you home every 5 weeks for a week as well if you want to go. Has anyone ever done shift work like this? how many hours do you work per day? contemplating whether its worth it or not because i know the conditions are going to be tough this time of the year! saying they pay £5000 per month but you have to support yourself during your time off,rent,bills,food,transport etc

MagicMarker

pistol1234 wrote: »

i have an interview with this crowd on mon,they said the £100 is refunded if you dont get the job. i'm an electrician and the job is in alberta , 14 days on and 7 off and they fly you home every 5 weeks for a week as well if you want to go. Has anyone ever done shift work like this? how many hours do you work per day? contemplating whether its worth it or not because i know the conditions are going to be tough this time of the year! saying they pay £5000 per month but you have to support yourself during your time off,rent,bills,food,transport etc

Are your flights and accommodation refunded too?

pistol1234

They pay for all flights over and back, you stay in accommodation on campus which is free but after every 14 days you have to look after yourself for the 7 days you have off

pistol1234

she said its about $250 per week for rent for the week your off

FobleAsNuck

every company that ask you to commit money during recruitment is a scam in my book. I'd stay clear

pistol1234

The 100 quid is for application fee(they sort out visa's and flights for you) which doesn't seem that outrageous? The company is legit,it's a consultant and employment agency not a random lad in a van. The website pretty convincing it's not a sham,sure I'm going to their office for an interview and the lady emphasised you get your application fee back if don't get the job(same as paying an application fee for a college course and getting refund if you didn't get a place in the course)wouldn't be worried about losing your money unless you get the job and suddenly decide you don't want to go anymore

Joe Duffy..

edoo91 wrote: »

got a job offer in Canada... it's through a recruitment company called gel Ltd in Londonderry anyone ever deal with these or know anyone who has thanks guys

It's called Derry around these parts me boyo.

Faolchu

pistol1234 wrote: »

The 100 quid is for application fee(they sort out visa's and flights for you) which doesn't seem that outrageous? The company is legit,it's a consultant and employment agency not a random lad in a van. The website pretty convincing it's not a sham,sure I'm going to their office for an interview and the lady emphasised you get your application fee back if don't get the job(same as paying an application fee for a college course and getting refund if you didn't get a place in the course)wouldn't be worried about losing your money unless you get the job and suddenly decide you don't want to go anymore

most scams seem legit thats why people fall for them. 100 isnt a huge amount but if you have 100 people falling for the same scam then it is a huge amount.

how muchs is a visa for canada? I'm sure it costs more than 100 no? so who pays for that?

Who pays the flights then for your 100? you going to be sitting in the back with the chickens on that flight?

this smells of something dodgy, theyre putting you up and covering your rent and utilities for your 14 on days? what "fee" is taken from your pay to cover that coz unless your on a park bench then its going to cost them money to do that and your 100 admin fee aint going to cover it.

Also your week off that you must cover, youre going to have to stay in a B&B, hostel or hotel every second week how much is that going to cost you?

your buddy said he went and it sucked, after a few weeks the company told him it wasnt working out. kind of a warning right there that theres something not right in my book. I'd be listening to your buddy.

if you want to work and live in canada you dont need an agent to help you with it. they can no more guarantee yor visa than you can applying yourself so save yourself the money. there's plenty of recuriters locally that can assist you should you obtain your visa and relocate

Shortie1985

I got a call from them today. I'm a carpenter. They never mentioned money to me but are ringing me tomorrow and could say it then. Being flown home once a month would be perfect for me but there's obviously a big cost in that so is it really bein taking from our wages?? Same as the accommodation and food. I presume it's 12 hour days, 13 days in a row. It will be hard so work it out per hour to see how much u are getting.

pistol1234

yea thats it sounds too good to be true.must be 12 hour shifts which would be serious graft.ive done long **** shifts plenty of times but never that near that amount in a row and they do take their toll. if that was the case it nearly wouldnt be worth it

CatFromHue

It sounds similar to the fly in fly out work in the mines in Australia.

Faolchu

Shortie1985 wrote: »

Being flown home once a month would be perfect for me but there's obviously a big cost in that so is it really bein taking from our wages??

Think about it logically for a second. if you where them would you pay to have your employee fly hoem every 2 weeks? whats a return flight to canada to Ireland about €800 per person? I cant see anyone doing that for free. I'd say its more like you spend you 14 days in the backend of nowhere where the only mode of transport our is by a puddlehjumper thats held together by duct tape and thats their "we fly you home every two weeks" as in they fly you back from nowhere to civilisation somewhere in canada where by you're stuck with no accomidation for the next 7 days unless prearranged.

Shortie1985 wrote: »

Same as the accommodation and food. I presume it's 12 hour days, 13 days in a row. It will be hard so work it out per hour to see how much u are getting.

Chances are theres some huge clawback in there whereby they garner those costs from yoru salary.

Personally i'd be suspicious and read every line of a contradct in detail over and over to ensure i wasnt signing up to something insane where by you end up with nothing in yor pocket.

pistol1234

yea i think there's more to it than meets the eye.im going for an interview on mon where they apparently give you all the info name of company,working hours,accommodation and all that malarkey. il see what they have to say

Shortie1985

Faolchu wrote: »

Think about it logically for a second. if you where them would you pay to have your employee fly hoem every 2 weeks? whats a return flight to canada to Ireland about €800 per person? I cant see anyone doing that for free. I'd say its more like you spend you 14 days in the backend of nowhere where the only mode of transport our is by a puddlehjumper thats held together by duct tape and thats their "we fly you home every two weeks" as in they fly you back from nowhere to civilisation somewhere in canada where by you're stuck with no accomidation for the next 7 days unless prearranged.




Chances are theres some huge clawback in there whereby they garner those costs from yoru salary.

Personally i'd be suspicious and read every line of a contradct in detail over and over to ensure i wasnt signing up to something insane where by you end up with nothing in yor pocket.

It's once a month and not every two weeks. And it's back to Ireland not somewhere in Canada. But stil doesn't sound right

Faolchu

Shortie1985 wrote: »

It's once a month and not every two weeks. And it's back to Ireland not somewhere in Canada. But stil doesn't sound right

ok but that still equates to circa 800 a month expense for them on flights.

good luck monday hopefully it will be clearer whats involved so you can make an informed decision

retalivity

This sounds an awful lot like the jobs advertised in Fort MacMurray in Alberta. $50/60$70/hr, Loads of guys living on site in camps, working 10 days on 4 days off/ 14 days on 7 days off etc. Google it and see what life/work/conditions are like.

From people I know it is bloody tough work, fort mcmurray is in the high north of Canada which is bleak, cold and dark for a lot of the year. A lot of people go there with the intention of making money and sticking it out for a year or 2, but a lot do not even last 3 months. The place has a lot of drug and anti-social problems. The work is round the clock and I sincerely doubt that people are flying home to ireland once a month. Most companies offer to fly you anywhere in Canada for your time off but I have never heard of anyone offering to fly you to any other country for a few days or a week. To get to northern Alberta from Ireland is at least 3 flights alone, and would probably take the best part of a day.

It's either a scam or genuine offer with a load of falsehoods or lies. I'd be asking to see contracts, employers etc before proceeding.

Shortie1985

pistol1234 wrote: »

yea i think there's more to it than meets the eye.im going for an interview on mon where they apparently give you all the info name of company,working hours,accommodation and all that malarkey. il see what they have to say

Let us know how you get on and what you think of the offer and if you are going to take it?

Faolchu

Faolchu wrote: »

Think about it logically for a second. if you where them would you pay to have your employee fly hoem every 2 weeks? whats a return flight to canada to Ireland about €800 per person? I cant see anyone doing that for free. I'd say its more like you spend you 14 days in the backend of nowhere where the only mode of transport our is by a puddlehjumper thats held together by duct tape and thats their "we fly you home every two weeks" as in they fly you back from nowhere to civilisation somewhere in canada where by you're stuck with no accomidation for the next 7 days unless prearranged. .

I imagine you're right in that they fly you "home" to wherever you're based in Canada. Also, getting a visa is not that simple. It's a lottery system that opens at a specific time on a specific date and first come first served. They're usually all gone within minutes.

thomas83

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I imagine you're right in that they fly you "home" to wherever you're based in Canada. Also, getting a visa is not that simple. It's a lottery system that opens at a specific time on a specific date and first come first served. They're usually all gone within minutes.

Hi guys I just want to shead a bit of light on this subject.. I too was a bit weiry about this job offer so I rang fas directly because the job was posted on there website..

I told the guy in the fas office that the company were charging each person 100 pound for a visa application and It sounded like a scam so he took my details and later that day he called me back and told me he was talking to the girl from gel ltd to which he was given details of the electrical company in Canada who gel was hiring the guys for..

He rang over to Canada and verified with the Canadian company that the job was legit .. He could not give me the company details because gel was doing all the hiring for this project

Hope this helps