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boost for tipping / flushing

  • 11-09-2014 10:29am
    #1
    AnFeirmeoir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭


    Going to give the ewes this this evening
    https://www.agridirect.ie/p/growvite_sheep
    So i can expect 22% extra lambs from this bottle. Pretty good !!

    Anyone have any minerals they swear by for increasing lambs on the ground ?


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  • #2
    gazahayes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭gazahayes


    AnFeirmeoir wrote: »
    Going to give the ewes this this evening
    https://www.agridirect.ie/p/growvite_sheep
    So i can expect 22% extra lambs from this bottle. Pretty good !!

    Anyone have any minerals they swear by for increasing lambs on the ground ?
    how many ewes will 1 litre treat?


  • #3
    AnFeirmeoir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭AnFeirmeoir


    100


  • #4
    docmartin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭docmartin


    AnFeirmeoir wrote: »
    Going to give the ewes this this evening
    https://www.agridirect.ie/p/growvite_sheep
    So i can expect 22% extra lambs from this bottle. Pretty good !!

    Anyone have any minerals they swear by for increasing lambs on the ground ?

    i've heard of lads mixing a product like this with the b12 drench to boost it further, meant to be a great lift, might go at it this year


  • #5
    Username John
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    AnFeirmeoir wrote: »
    Going to give the ewes this this evening
    https://www.agridirect.ie/p/growvite_sheep
    So i can expect 22% extra lambs from this bottle. Pretty good !!

    Anyone have any minerals they swear by for increasing lambs on the ground ?

    Not saying that it wont work... but it states
    A trial on Growvite Sheep was carried out by the institute for Rural Studies, University of Wales under the guidance of Dr Selwyn Williams. The trial investigated the effect of dosing ewes with Growvite Sheep pre-tupping and pre-lambing.
    ...
    produced a 22% increase in the number of lambs born alive from 143% to 165%

    What I read there was "alive"

    So maybe using this product pre-lambing is good. But for pre-tupping, I'd be looking for a scan rate comparison.

    But maybe I'm too sceptical... ;)


  • #6
    Username John
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    docmartin wrote: »
    i've heard of lads mixing a product like this with the b12 drench to boost it further, meant to be a great lift, might go at it this year

    Totally open to correction here, but I thought

    - B12 deficiency was as a result of not enough cobalt - so if you give em cobalt, they in turn can product more B12 :confused:
    - B12 can only be taken in by the sheep if it is injected, not if dosed :confused:


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  • #7
    docmartin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭docmartin


    Username John wrote: »
    Totally open to correction here, but I thought

    - B12 deficiency was as a result of not enough cobalt - so if you give em cobalt, they in turn can product more B12 :confused:
    - B12 can only be taken in by the sheep if it is injected, not if dosed :confused:

    thats the drench that i give em john, but as i say, i heard of lads up here mixing it with a booster
    https://www.agridirect.ie/p/cobalt_b12_with_selenium


  • #8
    AnFeirmeoir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭AnFeirmeoir


    Username John wrote: »
    Not saying that it wont work... but it states


    What I read there was "alive"

    So maybe using this product pre-lambing is good. But for pre-tupping, I'd be looking for a scan rate comparison.

    But maybe I'm too sceptical... ;)

    So, does that mean they get 22% lambs dead without the product ?
    :)

    If i get 1 extra lamb .. its paid for


  • #9
    ganmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Username John wrote: »
    Not saying that it wont work... but it states
    A trial on Growvite Sheep was carried out by the institute for Rural Studies, University of Wales under the guidance of Dr Selwyn Williams. The trial investigated the effect of dosing ewes with Growvite Sheep pre-tupping and pre-lambing.
    ...
    produced a 22% increase in the number of lambs born alive from 143% to 165%
    What I read there was "alive"

    So maybe using this product pre-lambing is good. But for pre-tupping, I'd be looking for a scan rate comparison.

    But maybe I'm too sceptical... ;)

    the +22% is kinda misleading alright
    you'd expect 122 lambs vs 100
    where the trial says you'd get 115 lambs vs 100


  • #10
    J.O. Farmer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    ganmo wrote: »
    the +22% is kinda misleading alright
    you'd expect 122 lambs vs 100
    where the trial says you'd get 115 lambs vs 100

    That's marketing as according to their figures it'd be an increase of 22 lambs over 100 ewes (lambing percentage) as opposed to 22 more lambs over 100 (percentage increase in number of lambs).
    However I think they were right to use the figures of lambs born alive over scanning results as at the end of the year thats what counts not how many you potentially could have had. The thing with these studies is the sample size is normally too small and not over enough years to allow for other factors.


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