What price do you guys think this zetor 8011 is worth?

seamus1980

Just just wondering,what price do you guys think this tractor is worth?Thanks
http://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/zetor-crystal-8011/7223967

Butcher Boy

seamus1980 wrote: »

Just just wondering,what price do you guys think this tractor is worth?Thanks
http://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/zetor-crystal-8011/7223967

4000

J.O. Farmer

5-6k she's certainly clean.

seamus1980

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

5-6k she's certainly clean.

Yea mate she seems to very clean

blue5000

€80 a ton?

Sam Kade

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

5-6k she's certainly clean.

A tractor salesman dream customer It's worth no where near that.

smokey-fitz

Free to good home

J.O. Farmer

Sam Kade wrote: »

A tractor salesman dream customer It's worth no where near that.

I put a value on it based on what I saw. What's no where near that then if you're so good at valuing tractors.

20silkcut

Sam Kade wrote: »

A tractor salesman dream customer It's worth no where near that.

Yes I would like to hear your rationale too.

Assuming that tractor is as straight as it looks it would do as much work as any mid size two wheel drive tractor.
Lift bales, pull a 1600 gallon tank, drive an 8 ft mower etc .

If a 20 year old MF 390 is commanding prices of 15-20k then this tractor is easily worth. 5 or 6k.

I see a an MF 165 for sale for 10 k on done deal at the moment wouldn't do half the work of this tractor.

TGJD

20silkcut wrote: »

Yes I would like to hear your rationale too.

Assuming that tractor is as straight as it looks it would do as much work as any mid size two wheel drive tractor.
Lift bales, pull a 1600 gallon tank, drive an 8 ft mower etc .

If a 20 year old MF 390 is commanding prices of 15-20k then this tractor is easily worth. 5 or 6k.

I see a an MF 165 for sale for 10 k on done deal at the moment wouldn't do half the work of this tractor.

Mf don't sell for what they are worth most of the time. I'd value that tractor at 4kish as well. Maybe 5 at a big push.

_Brian

"Working radio and speakers" :D

Tyson Lannister

_Brian wrote: »

"Working radio and speakers" :D

This Zetor is scrap bull really annoys me tbh, we ve had crystals for years, 8011, 12011 and 12045 and they're a great tractor, great pulling power and great engine. All this talk about poor brakes- I mean if you're any bit handy at all you'd fix them. Parts are cheap. Now they leak oil and mightn't be great for your street cred when you pull up at the co-op but too many lads spend too much time shining up their green deeres for a Sunday spin IMO .

seamus1980

smokey-fitz wrote: »

Free to good home

Dont be so stupid,grow up

20silkcut

TGJD wrote: »

Mf don't sell for what they are worth most of the time. I'd value that tractor at 4kish as well. Maybe 5 at a big push.

I don't agree this tractor is in great condition tin work , tyres, glass in cab etc no rust. If she still has all 80 horses then she is easily worth 6 grand hands down.

Equivalent classic fords and masseys David browns in that condition are going for twice that money.

_Brian

Tyson Lannister wrote: »

This Zetor is scrap bull really annoys me tbh, we ve had crystals for years, 8011, 12011 and 12045 and they're a great tractor, great pulling power and great engine. All this talk about poor brakes- I mean if you're any bit handy at all you'd fix them. Parts are cheap. Now they leak oil and mightn't be great for your street cred when you pull up at the co-op but too many lads spend too much time shining up their green deeres for a Sunday spin IMO .

I was poking fun at the add rather than the tractor

Tyson Lannister

_Brian wrote: »

I was poking fun at the add rather than the tractor

Haha apologies! Didn't mean to quote you only meant a general reply but was on phone.

Bodacious

http://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/lamborghini-674-70/7460225


speaking of less established tractor brands.. this lady would be my choice at the moment

Sam Kade

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

I put a value on it based on what I saw. What's no where near that then if you're so good at valuing tractors.

€3k, 3.5 at a stretch. The tractor is over 30 years old 85hp 2wd just because it's dolled up with a shiny coat of paint doesn't make it worth more. I've driven them they are awkward in the yard and in the field, they vibrate a lot when driven with machinery. Plenty more compact 4wd tractors if someone wanted to spend 6k even put 2k with it and get a decent tractor.

smokey-fitz

seamus1980 wrote: »

Dont be so stupid,grow up

Its called a joke seamus...

20silkcut

Sam Kade wrote: »

I've driven them they are awkward in the yard and in the field, they vibrate a lot when driven with machinery. .

Calling them awkward without mentioning anything specific is very easy to do. In my opinion the most awkward aspect of the zetor crystal is the view out the back window the seat is too far forward you'd strain your neck looking out the back window hitching up to yokes.
Another issue with the older crystals is the gear stick between the legs but it's no worse than any other tractor of the time on that really. (Your back would be broke leaning forward changing gears on a MF 165).
Really they were not awkward at all you had a great view out the front big spacious cab cheap second hand parts, indestructible gear box easy to split for a clutch change plenty of power.

Farrell

Don't forget the extra seat for passengers, not too many have that

rangler1

Farrell wrote: »

Don't forget the extra seat for passengers, not too many have that

At the time I bought my first 8011 it was cheaper than 188, 188 doesn't even come near it for comfort, power, loader or anything else bar trade in value

Sam Kade

20silkcut wrote: »

Calling them awkward without mentioning anything specific is very easy to do. In my opinion the most awkward aspect of the zetor crystal is the view out the back window the seat is too far forward you'd strain your neck looking out the back window hitching up to yokes.
Another issue with the older crystals is the gear stick between the legs but it's no worse than any other tractor of the time on that really. (Your back would be broke leaning forward changing gears on a MF 165).
Really they were not awkward at all you had a great view out the front big spacious cab cheap second hand parts, indestructible gear box easy to split for a clutch change plenty of power.

Hard to maneuver, poor visibility more or less what you described
They will work fine but aren't worth no more than 3k which was more or less my original point.

Nekarsulm

They were the first taste of a spacious cab many a farmer had. Room for the dog and a lunch box. And came with a heater. Air compressor was handy. And the reason people loved them, great traction & cheap to buy.

tomwaterford

20silkcut wrote: »

I don't agree this tractor is in great condition tin work , tyres, glass in cab etc no rust. If she still has all 80 horses then she is easily worth 6 grand hands down.

Equivalent classic fords and masseys David browns in that condition are going for twice that money.

I would put it around 4-5K at best....that is mainly down to the new hyd pump...as for supposedly resprayed wheels...I can still see patchs of rust
on the inside of them!!
it is a nice tidy tractor...still 30+ years old 2wd at the same time
I will say one thing...as someone who has sprayed/filled in tractors etc before....be very vary of a nice paint job...check corners for fillingetc

all them old fords,masseys and david browns are over valued...just because they are making that money doesn't make them worth it!!!(think celtic tiger houses-madness)

Nekarsulm wrote: »

They were the first taste of a spacious cab many a farmer had. Room for the dog and a lunch box. And came with a heater. Air compressor was handy. And the reason people loved them, great traction & cheap to buy.

they are a great tractor-could never understand the hate for them....them brakes aren't exactly rocket science to set up...lads jus get too caught up and excited/scared to do them.....same as many wont touch a square baler-bit in them...but you'll get through them

Nekarsulm

Along with SAME, Zetor got a lot of farmers into a 4wd tractor for the first time. When a County or a Roadless was way out of reach financially. And compared to a Duncan or a Lambourne, the rubber mounted cab was luxury.

J.O. Farmer

Sam Kade wrote: »

€3k, 3.5 at a stretch. The tractor is over 30 years old 85hp 2wd just because it's dolled up with a shiny coat of paint doesn't make it worth more. I've driven them they are awkward in the yard and in the field, they vibrate a lot when driven with machinery. Plenty more compact 4wd tractors if someone wanted to spend 6k even put 2k with it and get a decent tractor.

I've driven them too. Perhaps my estimate was on the high end but I wouldn't fault the tractor for its age. There's plenty of fairly rough looking tractors to be got though at 5k. The paint job is minor detail if the engine is good and the tractor is mechanically sound. It's not something you can judge on done deal.
It's still a 85hp tractor which to some is a big tractor and capable of doing most work a lot of farmers have. The gearbox could be a little awkward to change gears at times but they were great to pull. I never noticed them vibrating much with machinery. They had a cab on rubbers which left them not bad.
I agree it's maybe not the most maneuverable in a small yard but neither are big modern tractors. As for the field though yours must be very small.
If a tractor like that is to be got at 3k it's a lot better value than some of the more modern tractors at 20k.3k will hardly buy a 35 nowadays though unless your lucky and how old are most of them.

Damo810

I think most of the abuse Crystals get is purely because of the stable their from. If they were MF crystals they would be heralded. Basic, cheap horsepower, that will grip better than most modern day equivalents.

Sam Kade

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

I've driven them too. Perhaps my estimate was on the high end but I wouldn't fault the tractor for its age. There's plenty of fairly rough looking tractors to be got though at 5k. The paint job is minor detail if the engine is good and the tractor is mechanically sound. It's not something you can judge on done deal.
It's still a 85hp tractor which to some is a big tractor and capable of doing most work a lot of farmers have. The gearbox could be a little awkward to change gears at times but they were great to pull. I never noticed them vibrating much with machinery. They had a cab on rubbers which left them not bad.
I agree it's maybe not the most maneuverable in a small yard but neither are big modern tractors. As for the field though yours must be very small.
If a tractor like that is to be got at 3k it's a lot better value than some of the more modern tractors at 20k.3k will hardly buy a 35 nowadays though unless your lucky and how old are most of them.

I never said they were hard to maneuver in the field. Visibility is the problem in the field if you have a plough attached it's impossible to see the front furrows.

J.O. Farmer

Sam Kade wrote: »

I never said they were hard to maneuver in the field. Visibility is the problem in the field if you have a plough attached it's impossible to see the front furrows.

Sorry I took you up wrong when you said they were awkward in the yard and in the field. I never had any problem with visibility in the field but I've never ploughed so I'll take your word on it.

20silkcut

Sam Kade wrote: »

Hard to maneuver,

Don't want to get into tedious two-ing and fro-ing here over this issue but again that's a sweeping negative statement with little to back it up.
The steering lock on a 2 wheel drive crystal was as tight as it got would get you in around the tightest of farm yards remember back in the 80's and 90's these were a staple tractor of many contractors for hauling silage if they were "hard to manoeuvre" that would not have been the case as farm yards were a lot smaller back then.

20silkcut

Damo810 wrote: »

I think most of the abuse Crystals get is purely because of the stable their from. If they were MF crystals they would be heralded. Basic, cheap horsepower, that will grip better than most modern day equivalents.

Yes I think it might be old East European bloc thing. I remember when I was young skoda, yugo, lada, belarus were all brands that were scorned and I think zetor fell under that umbrella as well for many people.
Also the zetor crystal remained virtually unchanged from the late 60's to the late 90's it was very old fashioned by the end of its days in comparison to its contemporary tractors which gave many farmers a negative view of it.