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Looking for a drill

  • 09-09-2014 11:36am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭


    Any help appreciated.

    My bad shot is to lose it right.
    Approach irons result in a 'push' but with the driver its a big fade.
    I have never been a particularly good driver and therefore I am still a bit terrified of any hole with trouble down the right.

    Where this comes from is I have a tendency to lock my knees fully back at impact which lifts everything up. In lessons my pro got me to bounce on my heels with my knees bent. This helps me to 'stay in the shot' but I still tend to occasionally revert back to my old habit.

    Any suggestions on a drill to work on 'not coming up' in the shot?
    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭BOB81


    Also struggle with a right miss - a drill (for irons) that my pro had me doing and is the only time i seem to be able to get right to left flight with my irons is to place a ball slightly outside your ball to target line and a few inches back from the ball you are going to hit. The aim is to try to change your swing path, it forces you to approach the ball from the inside and if you come over the top on the downswing you will strike the ball on the outside first.

    Other drill which might help you stay down on a shot is put a tee in the ground a couple of inches ahead of the ball that you are going to hit, and make sure you contact it as you swing through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,835 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Anyone got a drill to increase club head speed please?
    My swing is very slow and as a result i don't get a lot of distance particularly on irons. I end up using a 5 where others would use a 6/7 or maybe even higher.

    Any help or suggestions very welcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,465 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Anyone got a drill to increase club head speed please?
    My swing is very slow and as a result i don't get a lot of distance particularly on irons. I end up using a 5 where others would use a 6/7 or maybe even higher.

    Any help or suggestions very welcome.

    Please create your own thread for this unrelated question.
    There is also a thread on drills/tips


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭agusta


    BraveDonut wrote: »
    Any help appreciated.

    My bad shot is to lose it right.
    Approach irons result in a 'push' but with the driver its a big fade.
    I have never been a particularly good driver and therefore I am still a bit terrified of any hole with trouble down the right.

    Where this comes from is I have a tendency to lock my knees fully back at impact which lifts everything up. In lessons my pro got me to bounce on my heels with my knees bent. This helps me to 'stay in the shot' but I still tend to occasionally revert back to my old habit.

    Any suggestions on a drill to work on 'not coming up' in the shot?
    Thanks
    My opinion would be your knees locking fully back is a result of an earlier problem in your downswing.I think the drill of bouncing on your heels with your knees bent is a very hard drill to do.Do you ever catch your irons a little heavy..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭BraveDonut


    I guess I do sometime catch my irons a bit heavy. I am prone to taking big divots and even grounding the driver.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭agusta


    BraveDonut wrote: »
    I guess I do sometime catch my irons a bit heavy. I am prone to taking big divots and even grounding the driver.
    If you could post a video of your swing im sure a few lads here would help pinpoint the source of the problem.Still in my opinion the standing up at impact is a result of an earlier problem.Your body stands up to avoid the club bottoming out before impact.It could be any one of several reasons.
    One possiblity is that your releasing the club too soon in the downswing and keeping your weight on your back foot,In this case a swingyde training aid would help
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixsLd3VTQrg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    honestly the best advise is GET A LESSON. There are so many things that could be wrong and you may "fix" something that's working and end up in a worse state.
    You do need to understand your ball flight, which will help you understand what your doing wrong.

    So thing of face angle and swing path. when hitting a ball the first 100-150m or so will indicate your swing path and the final 50m will indicate your face angle. To explain take these examples

    The ball takes off straight and continues on straight. You have swung down the line of the ball with the face perpendicular to the line of flight...step back and make a face...I do that all the time look :)
    The ball takes off straight but then bends right. Again the swing is along the line but the club face is open slightly. If the ball bends a lot near the end then you have the face open a lot. The same for if the ball fly's left, except the face is closed (facing left)

    Final example --(note opposite for a draw/hook)
    This is the most typical hit, ball takes off to the left of target and then swings back right, near the end and lands just right of the target (Fade) Here the swing path is out to in (casting), and the club face at impact is facing the target, so the ball will take off left because of the swing path and then further down the fairway the relative open face (to the swing path) will cause the ball to turn right. If the right turn is excessive the face is more open--possibly facing right of the original target line (slice).
    If the ball takes off left and continues going straight in that direction, the swing path is out to in and the face is perpendicular to the SWING PATH.
    If the ball takes off left and then turns left (your in the sh1t) -- swing path out to in--face closed or pointing left of the swing path.

    OK that all seams like a mouth full but when you get it into your head you will know if its your swing path or your face allingment thats the problem -- now you know what to fix.

    So what's your typical flight path or is it irratic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭BraveDonut


    Thanks Gerry -
    I reckon the problem shot where I have the problem is where the ball takes off right and then also bends right. As I lock my knees back I will probably have the weight on my right foot and will be leaning back - causing the hands to be behind the ball


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    From the ball flight your swing, in relation to the target (pin) is from in to out -- along the direction the ball takes off. But don't assume that your swinging in to out. It could be that your feet are pointing that direction or your upper body is closed to the target. You will need someone to look at your swing and see what's going wrong. If it is actually an in to out swing or something else like your stance.
    If it is an in to out swing, great, don't fix that, once its not pronounced that's actually a great swing line to have.

    As the ball then turns right you must have the face open along the swing path. Again this could be a number of things. You may have little or no wrist rotation (which you should have). You could have a wanky grip, you should see 2 nuckles on both left and right hand, if your hand as you look down is turned to your right, when you swing the hands will re-align and the face of the club will open. And then it could be your equipment, is the shaft too stiff for you and causing the head to be out of position. Unfortunately a good pro looking at your swing will see what it is. its hard to self diagnose.

    Your last comment about your feet I don't follow, but again its part of the posture to have your weight shift to the right (stay on the inside of your foot - the ball) and on the down swing shift the weight to the left. You sound like your doing the opposite, which is a common enough mistake.

    Just a note, you should only really take advise from a pro after he looks at your swing, amatures talk a lot of sh1te, I'm an amature and would be in that camp :rolleyes: From lessons I have had over the years, my experience is a pro may see 5 faults. But they usually only fix one at a time and then move onto the next etc... SO having 1 lesson is no real use. You need a bunch, 5 or 6 at least with time in between to practice what your taught.

    So my comments, take with a grain of salt, maybe you will notice a glaring fault and if so I'm happy to help. But beware you don't fix a fault with a fault


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭BraveDonut


    Thanks again Gerry.
    Last year was the first time that I ever took lessons. I took 3 and they all focused on driving.
    My pro admitted that he actually tried to fix too many things and may have left me confused on some aspects.
    I may try someone new...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    BraveDonut wrote: »
    Thanks again Gerry.
    Last year was the first time that I ever took lessons. I took 3 and they all focused on driving.
    My pro admitted that he actually tried to fix too many things and may have left me confused on some aspects.
    I may try someone new...

    Yea, you need to take your time. No such thing as a quick fix. But well worth getting right over time. Fix one thing at a time and with lessons you will get a better understanding of what you should be doing.

    If you have any friend that understands the swing a hr on the range looking at your setup & alignment would be well worth doing. get the posture right and the grip right and you have 80% of faults fixed.


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