New video gives great insight to the increasing problem with the PG-13 rating.

ps3lover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-NeJRrgoTY

I really agree that this obsessive need to cut movies down to a low rating is ruining movies. Hollywood really needs to take a long hard look at themselves and ask what the hell they are doing.
It's not even cutting them down. Now they are filming them for the low rating and not allowing the director to make the movie he/she wants to make so we no longer get proper directors cuts (see Robocop remake and Babylon A.D).
And while some movies can work as PG-13, it's happening too much now that execs are getting greedy and ruining the art.

krudler

Totally agree with that, especially the double dip "unrated" part. Why not bring the R rated one out in cinemas and give home viewers the watered down option if they want it?

IvaBigWun

A good mini documentary, except he censors the nudity in the old PG13 scenes!

Very ironic given the point he's trying to express.

krudler

IvaBigWun wrote: »

A good mini documentary, except he censors the nudity in the old PG13 scenes!

Very ironic given the point he's trying to express.

Boobs on youtube is a no no, all the violence in that video is fine though. There's a bizarre attitude towards that in the US especially. The country freaked out over Janet Jackson's tit but you can see gory footage of dead kids on the news because violence is perfectly fine apparently.

johnny_ultimate

You know, while I understand this isn't a 'good thing' by any stretch (heaven knows mainstream cinema doesn't need any more infantilisation), I've never felt good cause to feel particularly outraged about PG-13 culture. Most of the films it tends to affect probably weren't going to be particularly great anyway (unnecessary franchise sequels, generic horror fare, 'risque' frat comedies) - a McG Terminator movie or a further desperate Die Hard effort isn't going to be suddenly improved with some added violence, swearing or nudity.

I'm sure a few director's visions have been compromised by the whole process, which is a damn shame (e.g. Mathieu Kassovitz). And yes, the evidence suggests that in some cases the lower rating makes no discernible commercial difference, and could even have a detrimental effect. It's weird, twisted Hollywood logic in full force. But it's going to take a more extreme case or a more interesting film to be affected for me to feel particularly passionate about the whole thing. A PG-13 rating was always going to be relatively low down the list of The Expendables 3's problems, anyway.

ps3lover

To be honest when word got out about what the original intended ending was for Terminator Salvation, it felt like a bigger kick in the balls that they went for a lower rating.
The original ending was supposed to lead to a new trilogy, it was also what got Christian Bale to sign on. One they decided to go PG13 they decided to change the ending of the script for a more upbeat one.
Both McG and the producers have admitted this was a big mistake.
If I had seen the intended ending in cinema, I can tell you now, I'd would have been dying to see the follow up movie.