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Is this a scam?

  • 03-09-2014 11:15am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭


    Here is a message I recieved after enquiring about a van on a uk site: person obviously thinks im in uk.

    Hi James ,

    I`m still selling the van which comes with new MOT and Road Tax, HPI report, low mileage and full service history, never involved in any type of accident, excellent condition, looks and drives great. The final price is not negotiable: £3850. My husband died 2 months ago and I was left with it and an unpaid mortgage that is due next week. If you agree I can send you the link to my private auction on eBay so you can buy it from there since I all ready had a buyer last week who came up with some fake notes. I don`t really trust someone else to come around my house. Please note that you will be able to check directly on ebay the registration and all the information about it because they did a HPI check(it does not have any outstanding finance). As soon as you will confirm the payment to eBay, I will proceed with the delivery without any additional costs for you. You will receive the van with all the documents. This way you will actually pay for van after reception and inspection, considering that the funds will be held and released to me only after you accept and confirm the delivery. Do you think a 7 days inspection period will be enough? Within this time frame you have to decide if you purchase it or not. If you decide against the purchase you will be fully refunded without any added charges to your account. The vehicle will be returned to me if you reject it upon inspection, but I honestly doubt this will happen.


    Please let me know your decision.
    Thank you


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Probably; particularly the random sob story bit to encourage you to pay quickly makes me suspect its dodgy as hell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭Xios


    jamesbil wrote: »
    Here is a message I recieved after enquiring about a van on a uk site: person obviously thinks im in uk.

    Hi James ,

    I`m still selling the van which comes with new MOT and Road Tax, HPI report, low mileage and full service history, never involved in any type of accident, excellent condition, looks and drives great. The final price is not negotiable: £3850. My husband died 2 months ago and I was left with it and an unpaid mortgage that is due next week. If you agree I can send you the link to my private auction on eBay so you can buy it from there since I all ready had a buyer last week who came up with some fake notes. I don`t really trust someone else to come around my house. Please note that you will be able to check directly on ebay the registration and all the information about it because they did a HPI check(it does not have any outstanding finance). As soon as you will confirm the payment to eBay, I will proceed with the delivery without any additional costs for you. You will receive the van with all the documents. This way you will actually pay for van after reception and inspection, considering that the funds will be held and released to me only after you accept and confirm the delivery. Do you think a 7 days inspection period will be enough? Within this time frame you have to decide if you purchase it or not. If you decide against the purchase you will be fully refunded without any added charges to your account. The vehicle will be returned to me if you reject it upon inspection, but I honestly doubt this will happen.


    Please let me know your decision.
    Thank you

    Online purchase without inspection of used van. Check.
    Too good to be true price and value. Check.
    Sob story to make it seem more genuine. Check.

    My advice, walk away. Or proceed with complete scrutiny for every detail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭WeHaveToGoBack


    Id imagine so.

    For a grieving widow, she uses very business like language.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    I agree. Looks dodge.

    Can you report it to administrators of the website for them to check out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,293 ✭✭✭Fuzzy Clam


    Total scam.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    How to be even more sly than a scammer.
    It's easy............. because most of them are lazy and use the same format all the time.
    Just google one complete line from the message.

    Like this........ ""If you decide against the purchase you will be fully refunded without any added charges to your account"

    Results..........

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    Seems Legit.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    This is the bit that makes it stand out as a scam
    This way you will actually pay for van after reception and inspection, considering that the funds will be held and released to me only after you accept and confirm the delivery.

    Paypal dont provide an escrow service, which is what they are describing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭jamesbil


    So many scumbags out there!

    So how does it work? Are they expecting someone to fork out for it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭WeHaveToGoBack


    Beano wrote: »
    This is the bit that makes it stand out as a scam



    Paypal dont provide an escrow service, which is what they are describing.

    Presumably this is one of those scams were you send the money and they send a fake e-mail saying the funds haven't actually left your account. Meanwhile they're off with your money and have 7 days to block you from contacting them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    mikom wrote: »
    Just google one complete line from the message.

    Like this........ ""If you decide against the purchase you will be fully refunded without any added charges to your account"
    yep, thats the trick I use. Many do not know that if you use quotes in google it forces it to search for that exact pharse.

    So you can use few words, as long as they are unusual to appear together.

    larry bono u2 edge -gets 126,000
    "larry bono u2 edge" -gets 2 results

    I look for pidgin english or weird formatting. like the colon here
    " final price is not negotiable:"


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