buying sex?

steveone · 02-09-2014 8:44pm #1

listening to news bulletins about sexual exploitation among asylum seekers it's become clear to me that the last place one should find oneself is in the "care of" the irish state, drug culture in prison? industrial school nightmares, nursing home abuse and now a sex industry within holding environments for asylum seekers and refugees. what are they at?

anyway frances fitzgeralds response got me thinking,
is sexual intercourse a luxury item or a basic human need / right? are humans entitled to have sex ? clearly trafficking, exploitation, coercion and organised profiteering is whats being targeted and rightly so. it's one thing clamping down on prostitution and forbidding the purchase of sex but what about those for whom having sex is not without its problems, disabled people for instance who might not be able to attract a partner or might be confined to a chair or bed? are they not entitled to have sex (provided they can) ? can the powers that be forbid the purchase of what might be a basic physical need? is there more to this than simply outlawing the purchase of sex?

Nomis21 · 02-09-2014 9:46pm

Very good question.

Sex is a basic human need but we won't die if we don't get it.

I notice that people with good mental health are usually having a good sex life.

Most Western countries including Ireland allow you to buy sex within certain guidelines. Escort websites have been here for many years legally.

Smidge · 02-09-2014 9:49pm

Nomis21 wrote: »

Very good question.

Sex is a basic human need but we won't die if we don't get it.

I notice that people with good mental health are usually having a good sex life.

Most Western countries including Ireland allow you to buy sex within certain guidelines. Escort websites have been here for many years legally.

Nah bruh, crazy folks is where the good sex is at :rolleyes:

csallmighty · 02-09-2014 9:53pm

I'm selling. Any takers?

Mariasofia · 02-09-2014 9:54pm

csallmighty wrote: »

I'm selling. Any takers?

A/s/l? :-D

wazky · 02-09-2014 9:55pm

csallmighty wrote: »

I'm selling. Any takers?

How can you sell something that normally you couldn't give away?

Kiwi in IE · 02-09-2014 9:58pm

Ireland should model itself more on places like the Netherlands when it comes to 'morals' (ethics) rather than the Vatican!

steveone · 02-09-2014 10:01pm

Nomis21 wrote: »

Very good question.

Sex is a basic human need but we won't die if we don't get it.

I notice that people with good mental health are usually having a good sex life.

Most Western countries including Ireland allow you to buy sex within certain guidelines. Escort websites have been here for many years legally.

escorts don't sell sex tho' they're not allowed are they?

steveone · 02-09-2014 10:07pm

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

Ireland should model itself more on places like the Netherlands when it comes to 'morals' (ethics) rather than the Vatican!

women stood in windows for a fee isn't what I'm getting at. I think amsterdam et al is debasing in fact i'd say it's probably the reason there'll be a clampdown.

blankblank · 02-09-2014 10:09pm

steveone wrote: »

escorts don't sell sex tho' they're not allowed are they?

Id say legally their selling "company", sex is just implied between the lines

mikeyjames9 · 02-09-2014 10:11pm

Nomis21 wrote: »

I notice that people with good mental health are usually having a good sex life

you dirty peeping tom

02-09-2014 10:13pm

Nomis21 wrote: »

Sex is a basic human need but we won't die if we don't get it.

It's a basic human drive, but not necessarily a need.

It's a need for the species to continue to procreate and proliferate, but on an individual level the lack of sex doesn't threaten the survival of the person in isolation.

People can and do learn to cope without sex, so it cannot be considered essential. It's certainly preferable though, as humans are not designed to be solitary creatures and human contact has physical and psychological benefits that are hard to compensate for the lack of.

Nomis21 · 02-09-2014 10:16pm

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

Ireland should model itself more on places like the Netherlands when it comes to 'morals' (ethics) rather than the Vatican!

The morals of the Vatican? And how high are those morals...?

holystungun9 · 02-09-2014 10:27pm

I'll have a kilo of that!

Kiwi in IE · 02-09-2014 10:28pm

Nomis21 wrote: »

The morals of the Vatican? And how high are those morals...?

Very high on morals. But very low on ethics. And 'morals' don't really exist in any tangible way.

FortuneChip · 02-09-2014 10:32pm

Mariasofia wrote: »

A/s/l? :-D

Does everything have to revolve around that Ice Bucket Challenge?

Dave! · 02-09-2014 10:43pm

Interesting question, never heard it raised in this debate before.

Politicians and moral crusaders see fit to tell people (women usually) that they don't have the right to do what they like with their bodies, and they're at the same time telling others that they may never get to enjoy a basic experience that most humans get to enjoy.

Pretty sickening when you think of it in those terms.

smurgen · 02-09-2014 11:19pm

people should be allowed buy sex if they want to without fear of prosecution.i see no reason against it.and people shouldn't use the laws of the land to form their own moral belief system

Mariasofia · 02-09-2014 11:25pm

FortuneChip wrote: »

Does everything have to revolve around that Ice Bucket Challenge?

You would swear that ice bucket challenge was a new thing the way everyone is talking about it but its been around about a hundred years.....

Didnt over a thousand people do it on the titanic!?

auldgranny · 02-09-2014 11:32pm

steveone wrote: »

women stood in windows for a fee isn't what I'm getting at. I think amsterdam et al is debasing in fact i'd say it's probably the reason there'll be a clampdown.

Amsterdam is debasing to whom?
The seller or the buyer?