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john deere or newholland

  • 02-09-2014 7:45pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭


    Hoping to change my 97 7740 newholland I'm looking at either a tm125 or a johndeere 6610 se has any one any experience with either that could tell me witch is the better tractor.I'd be putting a loader on the tractor and it would be used for spreading slurry mowing agitating ploughing and drawing silage balles be on the road a good bit to


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭I said


    Get a massey


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭cz527


    I said wrote: »
    Get a massey

    What sort of massey would you reckon I do like massey


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭I said


    cz527 wrote: »
    What sort of massey would you reckon I do like massey

    5445 or 5455


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭Butcher Boy


    cz527 wrote: »
    Hoping to change my 97 7740 newholland I'm looking at either a tm125 or a johndeere 6610 se has any one any experience with either that could tell me witch is the better tractor.I'd be putting a loader on the tractor and it would be used for spreading slurry mowing agitating ploughing and drawing silage balles be on the road a good bit to

    I have 96 7840 sl and 02 tm 125 classic and to tell the truth they were the two best tractors that ever came into the yard,and they are after getting some horsing .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭cz527


    I said wrote: »
    5445 or 5455

    Sorry no to small I'm looking to go bigger 115 120 horse power


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    have all new Holland here

    ts115 has seen some almighty hardship along with a few t6080 newer tractors, mostly doing building work hauling diggers and dumptrailers. don't have any tm new hollands but they were the base for the t6080's I have and their a great tractor, don't get power command,
    range command is the best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭cz527


    have all new Holland here

    ts115 has seen some almighty hardship along with a few t6080 newer tractors, mostly doing building work hauling diggers and dumptrailers. don't have any tm new hollands but they were the base for the t6080's I have and their a great tractor, don't get power command,
    range command is the best.
    New holland does seem to be a bit better alright and it has cab suspension


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    cz527 wrote: »
    Hoping to change my 97 7740 newholland I'm looking at either a tm125 or a johndeere 6610 se has any one any experience with either that could tell me witch is the better tractor.I'd be putting a loader on the tractor and it would be used for spreading slurry mowing agitating ploughing and drawing silage balles be on the road a good bit to

    Spent a lot of time over a couple of years behind the wheel of 2 different 6610se's and neither ever missed a beat up to 10000 hours, great tractor but a small bit heavy on the juice! I'd have one in the morning if I could justify it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,544 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    cz527 wrote: »
    Sorry no to small I'm looking to go bigger 115 120 horse power

    Go for the bigger ones then 5480 or such. Are you trying to stay away from the 6 cylinders


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Go for the bigger ones then 5480 or such. Are you trying to stay away from the 6 cylinders

    Both a tm125 and jd 6610 are 6 pots..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    I wouldn't be one bit afraid of a six cylinder tractor,

    wouldn't let a 4 cylinder inside the gate here

    big horsepower doesn't mean big fuel comsumption

    its down to how you drive it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,544 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    I wouldn't be one bit afraid of a six cylinder tractor,

    wouldn't let a 4 cylinder inside the gate here

    big horsepower doesn't mean big fuel comsumption

    its down to how you drive it
    Ah the 4 cylinders are handy in tight yards to be fair


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Ah the 4 cylinders are handy in tight yards to be fair

    neighbour has a four cylinder new Holland with a loader a t6020 with stoll loader, the old half of my yard is fierce tight and I would be lifting bales over the roofs of sheds on the loader as I take a turn and my tractor is well able for it and is stable.

    he was revving the ****e out of his yoke to lift the bale high enough to be able take the turn, he ended up having to back in the gap

    when the main yard is full of silage is full we have to put bales in an older part of the yard which is surrounded by old stone sheds which I am reluctant to knock because there is nice stonework in them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude


    If its not blue. It wont do. Only messing two of the best around if you ask me. Most contractors have one or the other. Then theres massey, seroiusly there arent a patch on the newhollands and JDs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,544 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Amprodude wrote: »
    If its not blue. It wont do. Only messing two of the best around if you ask me. Most contractors have one or the other. Then theres massey, seroiusly there arent a patch on the newhollands and JDs.

    Always a comedian :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    :o
    cz527 wrote: »
    Hoping to change my 97 7740 newholland I'm looking at either a tm125 or a johndeere 6610 se has any one any experience with either that could tell me witch is the better tractor.I'd be putting a loader on the tractor and it would be used for spreading slurry mowing agitating ploughing and drawing silage balles be on the road a good bit to

    7740 are a superb tractor. You'll be hard set to find anything better imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,544 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Willfarman wrote: »
    :o

    7740 are a superb tractor. You'll be hard set to find anything better imo

    I agree. I almost bought one myself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    http://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/new-holland-ts135a/7410412

    these are a super tractor also that might be in your price range

    spent a day in one that had 11000 hours, was no different to a 4000 hour tractor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,544 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    http://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/new-holland-ts135a/7410412

    these are a super tractor also that might be in your price range

    spent a day in one that had 11000 hours, was no different to a 4000 hour tractor
    Nice Size tyres on her too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭stop thelights


    http://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/new-holland-ts135a/7410412

    these are a super tractor also that might be in your price range

    spent a day in one that had 11000 hours, was no different to a 4000 hour tractor

    Looks like she was pulling a low loader in one of the photos. Tyres are nearly too big for a loader tractor and will cause to burn more fuel when driving on the road and be very expensive to replace. 420/520 are the best size for what you want. Go with the tm125 range command or stretch to a tm120 03 on wards. Great tractor!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭agriman27


    You should take a look at massey 6465 dyna 6, they are a class tractor, great engine and dyna 6 is so easy to drive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,544 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    agriman27 wrote: »
    You should take a look at massey 6465 dyna 6, they are a class tractor, great engine and dyna 6 is so easy to drive

    Is the dyna 4 not better than the 6


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    Classic tractor did a run down between a 6910 and tm135 a month or 3 back, might make interesting reading for you, tipped on the good and bad of both tractors, and was a pretty fair piece to i thought, the tm actually came out on top if i remember rightly but not by much...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭cz527


    Tanx for all your help lads.dose any one no if the tm 120 has the drop out in the hydraulics between the clutch and the loader


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    cz527 wrote: »
    Tanx for all your help lads.dose any one no if the tm 120 has the drop out in the hydraulics between the clutch and the loader

    Have ypu found these two tractors or are they the two you would like?
    We spent 4 mths looking for S/H tractor in spring and couldn't find a decent one.
    Might be different now though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭cz527


    Have ypu found these two tractors or are they the two you would like?
    We spent 4 mths looking for S/H tractor in spring and couldn't find a decent one.
    Might be different now though

    Yea found a real nice tm125 01 for 25 thousand and a 6610se for 22 thousand it is 03


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭cz527


    dose the range comand in the tm125 have to be calabrated or ever


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    cz527 wrote: »
    dose the range comand in the tm125 have to be calabrated or ever

    Can be calibrated, and is easy enough to do, i cant remember the sequence but it is in the hand book for them, its a case of starting tractor whilst holding shift buttons then setting revs and stuff. Takes about 5 mins tops!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭stop thelights


    cz527 wrote: »
    dose the range comand in the tm125 have to be calabrated or ever

    When your test driving a range command tractor open the doors and back window preferably in an open field and start off in a1 work your way up to a6, half revs in each should do and listen for any unusual noise. Then use trigger button underneath and press the hare button to go to b2 (default setting never goes to b1! )

    This should be smooth and no real noise. If you hear a squaking sound. Take note. Work through up to b6 and go up the range to c1 take note for any noises again. Run up to c6 and then run her back to a1. If you hear any noises just walk away. Gear box needs doing!

    If you do go and buy a range command try and have 4-5k (Main dealer price ) of redoing the gear box in reserve for fear it goes in - yr or 5yrs time. Keep it in mind. Lots of people say not to use the trigger button but use cultch when goin in between ranges. Better for the box. its what i do. We have a range command nearly hitting 9k hours now and haven't touched the box yet.

    Wouldn't worry about calibration just get a manual and read up on it yourself. Great tractor!! Oh if your buying from a main dealer make sure brakes are done in her. It's a balls if they go. And when your driving don't ride the brakes but on/off or tapping them is way better and keep the discs cool and less wear. We've done 5k on these brakes and still good :-)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭grazeaway


    cz527 wrote: »
    Hoping to change my 97 7740 newholland I'm looking at either a tm125 or a johndeere 6610 se has any one any experience with either that could tell me witch is the better tractor.I'd be putting a loader on the tractor and it would be used for spreading slurry mowing agitating ploughing and drawing silage balles be on the road a good bit to

    both great machines, might actually get a ™ in better kic then the JD as it might be more likely to be a farmers machine then the JD as many are used to pull plant gear or contracting. JD is a bit tidier around the yard but either would be good.


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