Proventative Policing

Lyaiera

There's a really interesting article here about "preventative policing." The idea is that you would stop crime before it happens. It's an interesting thing to look at because those intents could mean a holistic approach to seeing crime reduced or they could mean tactics like profiling targets and in an extreme sense "thought crime."

Winsor, a lawyer and the former rail regulator, was a controversial choice by May for the job. He is the first chief inspector of constabulary not to have been a police officer.

He has spent the first six months of the job listening to the views of officers and now says he is ready to set out his ideas.

"The purpose of the police is to prevent crime taking place and to keep people safe," said Winsor. "Sir Robert Peel, who founded the modern police service in 1829, said the primary test is the absence of crime and disorder."

Winsor said in his speech at the Royal United Services Institute that virtually all the considerable costs incurred by the criminal justice system were downstream of a crime after it was committed. "Prevention is far better than cure in policing and criminal justice. If we can prevent an offence taking place, we can prevent fewer victims which is critical and also we save all of those costs," he said.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/apr/29/police-focus-crime-catching-criminals

Hotfail.com

...I thought this was the aim all along?

policarp

Bring back Lugs Brannigan.

stmol32

I may be mistaken (and please, by all means, disagree because that's what boards is all about) but I thought most of the older police forces mission statements say "keep the peace". This means to me keep a lid on things that can blow up so society doesn't crumble? Any detection or intelligence work is a byproduct of how far we've come in the modern age.

Obviously as time moved on from the 19th century (and. it has to be said, the average citizen enjoyed a more peaceful life) that we've
evolved into people expecting a peaceful life but I think nowadays people tend to expect the police to solve everything for them and that's unfair.

We actually have quite a good quality of life compared to when Robert Peel had his vision, we may still be mugged (which is rare enough, lets be honest) but at least we have a reasonable expectation that it shouldn't happen and if it does it will be investigated and stopped as reasonably possible.

KERSPLAT!

Did you just watch Minority Report...?

Lyaiera

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Did you just watch Minority Report...?

No. I've heard people make reference to it about this Chief Inspector though. The debate around utopias/dystopias is ancient though.

deco nate

A good cop knows when people are just have a smoke, and let them be=scum num
Nuts that cause all the problems.

Canis Lupus

deco nate wrote: »

A good cop knows when people are just have a smoke, and let them be=scum num
Nuts that cause all the problems.

Are you always drunk on week nights?

Nodin

policarp wrote: »

Bring back Lugs Brannigan.

"Lugs" Brannigan tended to arrive after or during the fact.

Lyaiera

Herp derp, I really messed up the title.

corner of hells

policarp wrote: »

Bring back Lugs Brannigan.

Hes cryogenically stored in Garda HQ ?

Tail Docker

He listened to a load of views before coming up with his ideas...they couldn't find anyone who had a few ideas before getting hired so? I want a job like that-"I know feck all, but hire me, I shall have great ideas in a month or two.."

Buona Fortuna

Nick Ross (him off Crimewatch) argues similarly.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crime-Solve-Much-What-Wrong/dp/1849544999/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409641494&sr=8-1&keywords=nick+ross+crime

I was going to buy it but then I thought better of spending £12.59.

Ross argues that in many cases crime can be designed out, or at least make the likelihood of detection and getting caught as high as possible.

For instance lots of people litter, but in a lot of cases (one of the beaches near Dublin comes to mind) they have no easy alternative. Its only the total $hoite who will walk past an empty litter bin and then discard his sweet wrapper on the ground.

Shop keepers faced petty pilfering from shop staff until they introduced rudimentary cash registers. The early types would do little more than sound a bell to notify the owner of a sale and provide a place to safeguard the takings. As simmple as these things were takings went up and pilfering reduced.

we can prevent an offence taking place, we can prevent fewer victims which is critical

They want more victims!
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