NBRU

stephenjmcd

Quick question folks , busses arnt involved in this strike coming up at all are they ?? even though some are nbru members

Infini

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Quick question folks , busses arnt involved in this strike coming up at all are they ?? even though some are nbru members

Its only the rail. Busses wont be striking unless this becomes long term or things turn real nasty imo.

stephenjmcd

Infini2 wrote: »

Its only the rail. Busses wont be striking unless this becomes long term or things turn real nasty imo.

hopefully not , everyone all out would be a disaster

punisher5112

They have us all split and they done this for that exact reason so there is always another option running.

They will let them strike for a few days and then union will say they done all they can and if yee don't come back the jobs will be gone.

Exactly like they done to be and db.

Infini

punisher5112 wrote: »

They have us all split and they done this for that exact reason so there is always another option running.

They will let them strike for a few days and then union will say they done all they can and if yee don't come back the jobs will be gone.

Exactly like they done to be and db.

Dont be so sure of that it could well go the other way and escalate expecially given the far more militant stance of the NBRU.

Also remember with dublin bus it was threatened to pull BE and IR out as well before they came to an agreement.

Markcheese

Apart from the dart and a few suburban lines around Dublin would the general public care if it went longterm... And what chance of the company going bust...

roundymac

Yes in Cork it would, trains to Cobh and Midleton plus Mallow would be suburban so we would notice. I think Cork-Dublin mainline less so because of the bus connections with the motorway making it even quicker. On an even more serious note If the "lost" passengers on the Cork route don't return after the strike it could spell the end ot intercity rail as we know it.

steveblack

NBRU top brass have family working within CIE in good jobs.
Feck all chance of the NBRU rocking the boat, might deny promotion prospects for the kids.

Dravokivich

Markcheese wrote: »

Apart from the dart and a few suburban lines around Dublin would the general public care if it went longterm... And what chance of the company going bust...

A lot of people relying on those could end up needing two buses each way.

Markcheese

roundymac wrote: »

Yes in Cork it would, trains to Cobh and Midleton plus Mallow would be suburban so we would notice. I think Cork-Dublin mainline less so because of the bus connections with the motorway making it even quicker. On an even more serious note If the "lost" passengers on the Cork route don't return after the strike it could spell the end ot intercity rail as we know it.

A few coaches would probably cover all the cork suburban routes ,(the awkward one would be mallow route... Getting from north side to glammire road...

end of the road

Markcheese wrote: »

A few coaches would probably cover all the cork suburban routes

ah shur the same for the dart, a load of busses can cover those. or even better, lets hope a deal is reached.

cdebru

steveblack wrote: »

NBRU top brass have family working within CIE in good jobs.
Feck all chance of the NBRU rocking the boat, might deny promotion prospects for the kids.

You can't say that out loud ;-) It might affect them getting nice jobs when they transfer to the NTA , I'm alright jack .

devnull

is Michael Flaherty still in the NBRU? Haven't heard from him for a while, although if it's true what I've heard, it's understandable why he didn't get involved in the DB dispute!

punisher5112

devnull wrote: »

is Michael Flaherty still in the NBRU? Haven't heard from him for a while, although if it's true what I've heard, it's understandable why he didn't get involved in the DB dispute!

Cause the daughter works in head office;)

devnull

punisher5112 wrote: »

Cause the daughter works in head office;)

That is what i was alluding to (although it always makes me laugh how the company make sure to use the Irish version of her name!)

But I thought she worked for Dublin Bus? Normally he'd get involved in non DB disputes, but I only see Dermot O'Leary's name being mentioned these days.

It does make me laugh though how you could possibly have a carry on where the union leaders daughter is on the opposite side. Surely that cannot be ideal for either side?

It's a true Irish scenario though!

punisher5112

devnull wrote: »

That is what i was alluding to (although it always makes me laugh how the company make sure to use the Irish version of her name!)

But I thought she worked for Dublin Bus? Normally he'd get involved in non DB disputes, but I only see Dermot O'Leary's name being mentioned these days.

It does make me laugh though how you could possibly have a carry on where the union leaders daughter is on the opposite side. Surely that cannot be ideal for either side?

It's a true Irish scenario though!

As far as I know he has or is retired/retiring.

She uses the Irish name as to put others off as she got in there with no help from any family/relations;):pac::D

cdebru

devnull wrote: »

That is what i was alluding to (although it always makes me laugh how the company make sure to use the Irish version of her name!)

But I thought she worked for Dublin Bus? Normally he'd get involved in non DB disputes, but I only see Dermot O'Leary's name being mentioned these days.

It does make me laugh though how you could possibly have a carry on where the union leaders daughter is on the opposite side. Surely that cannot be ideal for either side?

It's a true Irish scenario though!

Some connected to the NBRU deny they are related but in NBRU terms that's not a scandal you should ask what happened to the last El presidente ;-)

devnull

Either way, the fact that such a situation was even allowed to happen doesn't give me confidence in the industrial relations of either party.

Can you imagine, if true and they are related, how you can actually run either side of such a dispute and the conversations with said family member during it?

Of course they could just carry on with their jobs and never speak to each other about it, although you'd have to think that would be pretty awkward.

punisher5112

CIE equals family run simples really

cdebru

punisher5112 wrote: »

CIE equals family run simples really

True its why the unions are often more interested in preserving CIE than looking out for their members, or making sure they have somewhere to go when CIE goes. Amazing the ways sons and daughters turn up in positions no one has ever seen advertised.

Copyerselveson

I wonder how my job application sent off in 1983 is doing?

punisher5112

Copyerselveson wrote: »

I wonder how my job application sent off in 1983 is doing?

Got lost would usually be the response they would use.
or
What application.

Banjoxed

cdebru wrote: »

True its why the unions are often more interested in preserving CIE than looking out for their members, or making sure they have somewhere to go when CIE goes. Amazing the ways sons and daughters turn up in positions no one has ever seen advertised.

Is it true that it makes no odds to them if a railway line was closed, as they would be redeployed unless they took early retirement?