Vodafone & Torrents

MrLucidLJ

Hi there had a quick question, what is the policy on getting torrents with Vodafone, is it ok to torrent? From what I have read and thought to be believed is that, its ok to torrent things as long as you are not gaining financially from it. Appreciate any feedback.

Kencollins

Torrenting is perfectly legal, and is a widespread method for distributing large files.

The Ubuntu operations system shares large operating system files this way. It allows users to get fast download speeds while reducing the overheads for the company, as they do not need a massive data center to host and deliver the files.

Torrents are also used for copyright infringement too.

From Vodafone's perspective, they would be unable to see what the files you are downloading are, be them legal or not.

If they were to ban or block torrents then it would cause trouble, as they would be restricting free access to the internet and merely providing a "web browsing service"

Ken

MrLucidLJ

Kencollins wrote: »

Torrenting is perfectly legal, and is a widespread method for distributing large files.

The Ubuntu operations system shares large operating system files this way. It allows users to get fast download speeds while reducing the overheads for the company, as they do not need a massive data center to host and deliver the files.

Torrents are also used for copyright infringement too.

From Vodafone's perspective, they would be unable to see what the files you are downloading are, be them legal or not.

If they were to ban or block torrents then it would cause trouble, as they would be restricting free access to the internet and merely providing a "web browsing service"

Ken

So its ok to download movies, music and tv shows from torrents then? I mainly would stream Netflix, Youtube videos, Spotify, Sky on Demand.

ED E

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055334444

^ In there lads. Its the only place for P2P discussion.

Torrenting isnt illegal. As above its got plenty of legitimate uses. Even games use it now for patching (World of warcraft, War Thunder etc being examples).

Torrenting copyrighted content very much still is, cant be discussed on boards.ie and if you're spotted by one of the third parties(your ISP doesnt do any detection themselves) then your ISP will get a message which they'll then pass on to you if thats what they do.

Currently eircom do this, as do vodafone Im pretty sure:
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/vodafone-in-line-to-join-file-sharing-clampdown-1.678613

UPC have told them to jog on.

All ISPs now enforce the High court ban on The Pirate Bay and also block kickass.

September1

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

So its ok to download movies, music and tv shows from torrents then? I mainly would stream Netflix, Youtube videos, Spotify, Sky on Demand but might get the occasional torrent if I can't find on this service.

Usually as long as you have permission from copyright owners there is no law that would prevent using torrents, but if content is already in public domain then such permission might not be required.

MrLucidLJ

September1 wrote: »

Usually as long as you have permission from copyright owners there is no law that would prevent using torrents, but if content is already in public domain then such permission might not be required.

Thanks for your reply if its something like a tv show that is on tv and is a Tv rip of it would that be fine?

MrLucidLJ

ED E wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055334444

^ In there lads. Its the only place for P2P discussion.

Torrenting isnt illegal. As above its got plenty of legitimate uses. Even games use it now for patching (World of warcraft, War Thunder etc being examples).

Torrenting copyrighted content very much still is, cant be discussed on boards.ie and if you're spotted by one of the third parties(your ISP doesnt do any detection themselves) then your ISP will get a message which they'll then pass on to you if thats what they do.

Currently eircom do this, as do vodafone Im pretty sure:
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/vodafone-in-line-to-join-file-sharing-clampdown-1.678613

UPC have told them to jog on.

All ISPs now enforce the High court ban on The Pirate Bay and also block kickass.

Thanks for the links and help appreciate it as usual you have helped me out again

September1

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

Thanks for your reply if its something like a tv show that is on tv and is a Tv rip of it would that be fine?

If you are not sure then answer is most likely no. Putting stuff on TV is not public domain, usually stuff becomes PD in about 70 years after death of creator.

MrLucidLJ

September1 wrote: »

If you are not sure then answer is most likely no. Putting stuff on TV is not public domain, usually stuff becomes PD in about 70 years after death of creator.

Oh see didn't know that thanks dude for the help and advice appreciate it. Thought TV shows would be public domain seeing as they are broadcast. So like a show like SOA which is broadcast could be watched through a torrent?

endacl

You seem a little confused. You say you'll be using netflix. You say you want to watch SOA, which is available on netflix. That's not downloading using torrents. That's streaming from a subscription service.

What's your question, exactly?

MrLucidLJ

endacl wrote: »

You seem a little confused. You say you'll be using netflix. You say you want to watch SOA, which is available on netflix. That's not downloading using torrents. That's streaming from a subscription service.

What's your question, exactly?

What I am saying is when a show is broadcast either in USA or where ever is that not considered public domain? Because what the lads seem to be saying is that its ok to download a torrent as long as there is no copyright on it, so I was asking if a show EG SOA is broadcast publicly then does that mean a torrent of the show is ok? Thats what I am unclear about.

September1

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

What I am saying is when a show is broadcast either in USA or where ever is that not considered public domain? Because what the lads seem to be saying is that its ok to download a torrent as long as there is no copyright on it, so I was asking if a show EG SOA is broadcast publicly then does that mean a torrent of the show is ok? Thats what I am unclear about.

No, broadcasting is not causing TV shows to become public domain. You have to wait for creators to die and then 70 years.

MrLucidLJ

September1 wrote: »

No, broadcasting is not causing TV shows to become public domain. You have to wait for creators to die and then 70 years.

Ah so if you wanted to torrent a show like that its not allowed? I'm guessing its the same for streaming a show as well?

endacl

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

What I am saying is when a show is broadcast either in USA or where ever is that not considered public domain? Because what the lads seem to be saying is that its ok to download a torrent as long as there is no copyright on it, so I was asking if a show EG SOA is broadcast publicly then does that mean a torrent of the show is ok? Thats what I am unclear about.

If you hear a dong on the radio is it ok to download it illegally?

That's not what 'public domain' means.

MrLucidLJ

endacl wrote: »

If you hear a dong on the radio is it ok to download it illegally?

That's not what 'public domain' means.

I was asking because I was not sure. And wasn't 100 percent sure on the definition of public domain.

endacl

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

I was asking because I was not sure. And wasn't 100 percent sure on the definition of public domain.

Whoops! 'Song'. Not 'dong'!

:embarrassed:

MrLucidLJ

endacl wrote: »

Whoops! 'Song'. Not 'dong'!

:embarrassed:

I thought you actually meant dong like the dong from a dong lol

September1

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

Ah so if you wanted to torrent a show like that its not allowed? I'm guessing its the same for streaming a show as well?

Using legal streaming services like Netflix, 4oD or RTE Player is legal as long as you do it according to T&C.

If you need legal advice you should talk to solicitor and explain what you want to do. Copyright laws are complicated and vary from country to country.

MrLucidLJ

September1 wrote: »

Using legal streaming services like Netflix, 4oD or RTE Player is legal as long as you do it according to T&C.

If you need legal advice you should talk to solicitor and explain what you want to do. Copyright laws are complicated and vary from country to country.

I was only asking I don't this I need a solicitor thanks for the help though

Cabaal

Please keep P2P discussions to the megathread, also please remember that discussion of downloading copyright material is not ok here