find when a road accident happened

BloodThirsty

Is there any way to find when a road accident happened. it would have been in 1980's and a person was killed. there was a press report i want but need to know the date it happened.

Are accidents/ fatalities/court proceedings recorded anywhere that is publicly accessible?

Esel

The National Archives should have copies of all relevant newspapers.

BloodThirsty

Esel wrote: »

The National Archives should have copies of all relevant newspapers.

I do not have the date. i need the date to find the newspaper report

testicle

Don't they have a search facility?

banie01

If you have access to the person's death certificate the date would be recorded there.
If you can access the local newspaper archive from the deceased's locality the death wiill no doubt be in the obituaries section there.(more likely than in a national)
And there are many cemetery records online now, so a search of the cemetery either online or on foot will let one read the headstone and get the date of interment or death from that.

BloodThirsty

banie01 wrote: »

If you have access to the person's death certificate the date would be recorded there.
If you can access the local newspaper archive from the deceased's locality the death wiill no doubt be in the obituaries section there.(more likely than in a national)
And there are many cemetery records online now, so a search of the cemetery either online or on foot will let one read the headstone and get the date of interment or death from that.

i only know where the accident was and approximate date i.e 1980's
Don't know the deceased name
I don't think the national archive would have papers from 1980's online?
So i would have to go to the local paper archive and go through all the 1980's

What i need is somewhere a list of accidents from a certain place is kept?
Is there anywhere i can go and see an area and list of accidents. it would have been a rural area and not many accidents would have happened there

garda records are not accessible?

can you go to the court house and search records of cases?

Export

Does the rural area have a local newspaper which covers that area?

BloodThirsty

Export wrote: »

Does the rural area have a local newspaper which covers that area?

yes but i would have to search all through 1980's as i do not know the date

i only know the place the accident happened and it was in 1980's

Export

The newspapers locally are usually weekly. The editor will have 'hard' copies of every edition (as will the local library). They can direct you to read whatever pages a car crash would have been covered in. One day of searching through their old local papers and you will find it. I know because I used to work for a local newspaper. They might even get someone to help you out. It will take about 2 hours to filter through 1 year.

Export

Btw the weekly edition of each old paper for one year is held in one hard backed broad sheet sized bound book. You'll possibly need to look at either the headline pages or the local notes pages. If a death was involved, a headline page (usually the first 3 to 5 pages). If not, then the local notes. As I said, the editor will direct you as to which pages to search to save you trawling through each page. You won't miss an edition as you'll get a feel for how many pages an edition contains and they're numbered sequentially on the top of the first page usually.

BloodThirsty

thanks. but do not have time to search through a decade of papers

Export

Well I'm afraid I can't help you then. Have you considered asking locally? Is there something specifically that you need to know?

BloodThirsty

Export wrote: »

Well I'm afraid I can't help you then. Have you considered asking locally? Is there something specifically that you need to know?

i need to know the people involved. thanks for the suggestions but , no offence, i knew about searching local papers, i do not have time. i thought maybe there would be records somewhere of all accidents and the dates

Ascii

Did you visit the crash scene. Very common for family members to erect a little plaque/cross at the scene(particularly I rural areas) which might have the date, names etc.

If there was no plaque there but you knew the exact location, I would bet my bottom dollar that some neighbour/farmer joe character will be able to fill you in on when it happened helping you to narrow your search to check a local paper.

MarkR

BloodThirsty wrote: »

i need to know the people involved. thanks for the suggestions but , no offence, i knew about searching local papers, i do not have time. i thought maybe there would be records somewhere of all accidents and the dates

If you don't have time to search, and don't have a name or a date, I can't see how you are going to find it. You will have to do some legwork yourself.

jimd2

Local garda station?

cml387

The Irish times archive is available online and is searchable. There is a charge but it varies on how long you need access for.
That would be the best bet. Obviously it would at least have to have been a fatal accident for a mention, unless it was noteworthy in some other way..

coylemj

Unless you visit the place and ask a few of the older locals you really haven't a chance. Fatal traffic accidents are always investigated by a sergeant so maybe there's a retired sergeant in the area who might remember but he could have been promoted afterwards and transferred out of the area, he could also be dead since we're talking 30 years ago. It's extremely unlikely that any of the current Gardai will be able to help you.

Bear in mind that back then there was over 400 people killed in traffic accidents each year so the event you're looking for won't exactly match the pope's visit in the memory and finding a report in any national newspaper might be a challenge - a lot of them might not have merited any mention on a busy news day.

Export

coylemj wrote: »

Unless you visit the place and ask a few of the older locals you really haven't a chance. Fatal traffic accidents are always investigated by a sergeant so maybe there's a retired sergeant in the area who might remember but he could have been promoted afterwards and transferred out of the area, he could also be dead since we're talking 30 years ago. It's extremely unlikely that any of the current Gardai will be able to help you.

Bear in mind that back then there was over 400 people killed in traffic accidents each year so the event you're looking for won't exactly match the pope's visit in the memory and finding a report in any national newspaper might be a challenge - a lot of them might not have merited any mention on a busy news day.

I would certainly look at local coverage. They did not cover national issues.

Thud

Local undertakers or hospital might have some records

Export

The other thing is, you say you're looking for a particular piece of coverage? I'm not sure why. Most news articles covering a car crash will barely name the injured/deceased, let alone who else was involved. I think what you're looking for may be contained in the court pages (which narrows your search!) of the local newspaper. It will again, only cover cases held which form interest, and is not exhaustive.

coylemj

Export wrote: »

I would certainly look at local coverage. They did not cover national issues.

Why are you still flogging that dead horse? This is what the OP told you directly...

BloodThirsty wrote: »

thanks. but do not have time to search through a decade of papers

cml387

Why not tell us what area the accident happened in? Someone may read and be able to give the deatils.

Export

coylemj wrote: »

Why are you still flogging that dead horse? This is what the OP told you directly...

I'm sorry, I was just trying to be helpful.

goz83

Export wrote: »

I'm sorry, I was just trying to be helpful.

The OP doesn't want help. He wants a link to the information, or for it to be shown to him directly, but won't give any information about what he is actually looking for. So far, we know it was an RTA in the 80's in a rural area. In the 80's that could have been county Dublin if truth be told.