Plugs patches?

i57dwun4yb1pt8

regarding punctures , some places do plugs only some do patches only

none seem to do a combo -

whats the deal with fixing a puncture - why no proper procedure ?

ironclaw

Cost. Why do two procedures when you can get away with one? Honestly, 90% of motorists have no idea what tyres are on their car anyway, let alone what procedure is correct for a puncture.

Sad times we live in and it will only get worse.

porsche boy

plugs usually start leaking after a while but are easy and cheap.

patches dont tend to leak if fitted properly, have to remove tyre to fit. So tyre machine is needed. bit more difficult.

ideally a patch for piece of mind.

Tea 1000

The thing I don't like about patches is that you have to slightly file away some of the wire on the inside to get them to stick properly.

biko

DaDumTish wrote: »

whats the deal with fixing a puncture - why no proper procedure ?

What is your definition of "proper procedure"?

i57dwun4yb1pt8

a standard industry procedure to fix a tyre ,

seems some people think plugs are ok , but some say they are illegal
some say patches are ok , and some ssy both are needed.

porsche boy

Tea 1000 wrote: »

The thing I don't like about patches is that you have to slightly file away some of the wire on the inside to get them to stick properly.

if anyone is buffing the tyre down to the metal wires he's a damn fool, and costing you a tyre. The buffing on the inside is merely to give a smooth serfice for the patch to adhere to.

Tea 1000

porsche boy wrote: »

if anyone is buffing the tyre down to the metal wires he's a damn fool, and costing you a tyre. The buffing on the inside is merely to give a smooth serfice for the patch to adhere to.

Some tyres you can see the metal wire on the inside anyway. Any buffing to get the surface smooth automatically files the wires a bit.

porsche boy

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Some tyres you can see the metal wire on the inside anyway. Any buffing to get the surface smooth automatically files the wires a bit.

I may be a bit wet behind the ears, I've only been fitting tyres to cars for about a decade, couldn't have done more than a few thousand but I've never seen any brand of tyre that has visable wires on the inside. Besides the obvious issue of moisture in the air causing them to rust I can think of many reasons this is silly. perhaps you can tell me what brand of tyre has this type of production...

Tea 1000

porsche boy wrote: »

I may be a bit wet behind the ears, I've only been fitting tyres to cars for about a decade, couldn't have done more than a few thousand but I've never seen any brand of tyre that has visable wires on the inside. Besides the obvious issue of moisture in the air causing them to rust I can think of many reasons this is silly. perhaps you can tell me what brand of tyre has this type of production...

A Pirelli P5000 for one, you can feel the cross wires on the inside and see them. They're not visible as in they're covered over, but it's only a thin film over it.

mgbgt1978

Same as virtually every other Tyre out there.
You can see the outline of the wires but you can't actually see the bare metal.

Tea 1000

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

Same as virtually every other Tyre out there.
You can see the outline of the wires but you can't actually see the bare metal.

Ultimately my point, what happens when you file the inside down though in order to put a patch on?
Maybe it's not actual wire that's under there and just the way the rubber carcass is moulded.