Garda 'favours' costing the economy

T0001

Garda 'favours' costing the economy

Thoughts on this?


It happens all the time. Gardaí stop a person speeding but it turns out to be their friend, so no €80.
Or no tax/insurance, but they're 'let go' or they call a friend who's a gard to get them out of it. Again no fine.

This build's up over time and could cost the economy thousands, may not seem alot but it's a few thousand more that could be used elsewhere.

Guffy

If I was to get 40% of a ticket u can guarantee I would be stopping 10 speedies a week. Also wat about gardai who aren't on traffic duty?

dar100

Of course, because that will work out great, with absolutely no abuse of power at all.

You won't have Garda hiding on street corners with speed guns all day, making up their wages.

The banks seemed to have done well with such incentives.....

Head The Wall

gufc21 wrote: »

Also wat about gardai who aren't on traffic duty?

Well as has happened previously they will get an allowance that will make up for the fact thet they can't get the allowances other guards get.

A simlar concept exists in the private sector where people that can't do overtime get paid the same as people that do overtime coz that's fair. Oh wait, that's a totally crazy concept.

But seemingly it's not such a crazy concept in the PS :pac:

Guffy

Head The Wall wrote: »

Well as has happened previously they will get an allowance that will make up for the fact thet they can't get the allowances other guards get.

A simlar concept exists in the private sector where people that can't do overtime get paid the same as people that do overtime coz that's fair. Oh wait, that's a totally crazy concept.

But seemingly it's not such a crazy concept in the PS :pac:

So an allowance will make up for loosing out on the possibility of 10-20 speed fines? I mean two is a very low average to set weekly.

meathstevie

This is utter nonsense, a Garda is not a tax collector who issues tickets to line the state coffers ( that,'s what GoSafe vans are for ). A Garda is a police officer who deals with offences by means of discretion, a word to the wise a ticket or a prosecution. The only purpose of the penalty points and ticket system is to keep minor traffic offences out of the district court. That alone is saving the state vast amounts of money.

Valetta

The ideal scenario is zero fines collected for motoring offences, because none were committed.

This would "cost" a fortune in foregone fines, but any right-minded person should think it a great result.

Itsdacraic

T0001 wrote: »

Garda 'favours' costing the economy

Thoughts on this?


It happens all the time. Gardaí stop a person speeding but it turns out to be their friend, so no €80.
Or no tax/insurance, but they're 'let go' or they call a friend who's a gard to get them out of it. Again no fine.

This build's up over time and could cost the economy thousands, may not seem alot but it's a few thousand more that could be used elsewhere.

Guards have been letting people of speeding fines and penalty points?

Surely this should have been bigger news...........

Godge

T0001 wrote: »

Garda 'favours' costing the economy

Thoughts on this?


It happens all the time. Gardaí stop a person speeding but it turns out to be their friend, so no €80.
Or no tax/insurance, but they're 'let go' or they call a friend who's a gard to get them out of it. Again no fine.

This build's up over time and could cost the economy thousands, may not seem alot but it's a few thousand more that could be used elsewhere.

Thoughts?

A rubbish OP with no evidence to back it up creating a rubbish thread.

T0001

Godge wrote: »

Thoughts?

A rubbish OP with no evidence to back it up creating a rubbish thread.

No evidence to back what up? It's an open discussion on the topic. You can disagree if you want, but say that rather than degrading the thread.

barneystinson

T0001 wrote: »

No evidence to back what up? It's an open discussion on the topic. You can disagree if you want, but say that rather than degrading the thread.

Are you in primary school OP? It's the kind of thread a primary school kid would start.

What about the use of pens & paper for personal purposes OP, that's the real money spinner...! I have it on good authority that they frequently BRING PENS HOME WITH THEM... I urge you to bring this to the attention of the Irish people.

Godge

T0001 wrote: »

No evidence to back what up? It's an open discussion on the topic. You can disagree if you want, but say that rather than degrading the thread.

Ok, here goes.

T0001 wrote: »

Garda 'favours' costing the economy

According to who? Is there a study or report somewhere to back this up? Even a tabloid news article? Or are you the only one who knows this?

T0001 wrote: »

Thoughts on this?

No evidence to back this up.

T0001 wrote: »

It happens all the time.

Do you follow the gardai around all the time watching what they do? Do you have an army of assistants to follow other gardai around just in case it is only the garda that you follow who does this?

T0001 wrote: »

Gardaí stop a person speeding but it turns out to be their friend, so no €80.

How many friends does an average person have? 100? 200? So 200 out of 2 million drivers? What are the chances of a guard stopping a friend? Have you worked out the probability of how often it happens?

T0001 wrote: »

Or no tax/insurance, but they're 'let go' or they call a friend who's a gard to get them out of it. Again no fine.

Do you have listening devices to record Garda phone calls to show that this happens regularly?

T0001 wrote: »

This build's up over time and could cost the economy thousands, may not seem alot but it's a few thousand more that could be used elsewhere.

This is the bit that it is really ridiculous. How have you worked out that it could cost thousands. Do you have a mathematical formula.




Answer some of the above questions and maybe I will treat the thread seriously. Until then, it is just another anecdotal have a bash at someone thread.

antoobrien

T0001 wrote: »

It happens all the time. Gardaí stop a person speeding but it turns out to be their friend, so no €80.
Or no tax/insurance, but they're 'let go' or they call a friend who's a gard to get them out of it. Again no fine.

This build's up over time and could cost the economy thousands, may not seem alot but it's a few thousand more that could be used elsewhere.

The reverse is also probably more true:

By not taking €80 out of somebody's pocket and giving them points (and the consequential cost of insurance rise) they are leaving them money that can be spent, potentially keeping businesses open, wages paid etc...

andrew

Even if Gardaí are doing this a lot (which I doubt) it doesn't 'cost' the Economy anything. Either the state has the money, or the person committing the offence has the money. It's still somewhere in the Economy.

Mr.McLovin

I think more money is spent policing tax inspections, court dates and imprisonment for non payment of fines than letting the odd lad off with a warning.

Thread is toilet water tbh

ted1

There's not much profit in an €80 fine.

Between collection costs, administration etc theres nothing left.

chopper6

How is a thread like this in the Irish economy forum?

If you have a problem with a thread, please report it.

OP do not start any further threads about rumours or making these kinds of accusations without some kind of back up source.