Fiat 100-90

135man

What are these tractors like are they good to pull also what are the good and bad points thanks

Nekarsulm

Good to pull, the Iveco is a very reliable engine. Unsympathetic users can cause clutch wear, sometimes at an alarming rate. Dog ignorant users, lads who rip and pull at the gear leavers, can shear a couple of roll pins at the bottom of the gear leavers. these are easy to fix. If, however, the second set of roll pins under the centre of the cab shear, then its a cab off job. Check cab for rust. Better an unsprayed example than a tarted up machine. Make it your business to jack up the front a bit, taking the weight off front axle. Check the two big carrier bearings and centre pivot points are not worn. If they are, then you could run into real trouble down the line, with a new crown and pinion needed. Steering can seem heavy and slow, compared to other makes. especially tractors with only one steering ram. Hydraulic pump output can seem low compared to other makes. Check all spool valves work. there is a small lever alongside the right hand side of the seat, which is the position/draft mix lever. These often seize up. Be nice if all electrics work, Italian wiring and earth leads not a strong point. selectable PTO desirable, older models have a pain-in-the-ass method of selecting 1000 rev PTO , involving a 19mm ring, a 19mm socket and a sawn off piece of a bolt. Get as good a one as you can afford, and it won't drop in value for many years.

Nekarsulm

nearly forgot the good points! great engine, reliable gearbox. no servo's nor solonoid switches. no hydro-electric controlled clutch packs. almost all the engine horsepower delivered at the PTO. Hand clutch for PTO allows you start heavy loads slowly. good brakes. very simple to operate for novice drivers etc. easy enough on diesel. you can change the hand brake pads without major surgery, a plate unbolts from the side of the transmission. try and get one with a Dromone hitch.

Brown Podzol

Nekarsulm wrote: »

nearly forgot the good points! great engine, reliable gearbox. no servo's nor solonoid switches. no hydro-electric controlled clutch packs. almost all the engine horsepower delivered at the PTO. Hand clutch for PTO allows you start heavy loads slowly. good brakes. very simple to operate for novice drivers etc. easy enough on diesel. you can change the hand brake pads without major surgery, a plate unbolts from the side of the transmission. try and get one with a Dromone hitch.

Like I said before you have an encyclopaedic knowledge of farm machinery.

blue5000

I think Neks has it all summed up, clutch is the only major weak point. Dash board electrics can be awful liars too. Best to get a deadman switch on the battery.
Only other thing to watch for is low oil in backend. With heavy trailer going down fast oil can splash out over a baffle into gearbox leaving backend to go low on oil. There is a handy dipstick though near toplink.

Nekarsulm

and if there comes a horrible vibration and rattle from the transmission, like the bottom is about to fall out of the gearbox, its almost certinly the support bearing for the driveshaft. Halfway along the driveshaft to the front axle. Also important point, the actual gearbox is totally separate to the backed, and has no dipstick . there is a level plug/filler behind the front cab mounting bracket on the tractors right hand side. you could have the backend full, and the actual gearbox its self dry...........
Exhaust manifolds rust through, but time in two halves so only have to replace the bit you need.

Phil Iam

Always thought the lift arms didn't lift very high which can be a problem when tedding hay

sandydan

thinking of buying 1 too,was there a problem with pin in crown and pinion in rear end falling out or was that older model. thanks

eric prydz

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Good to pull, the Iveco is a very reliable engine. Unsympathetic users can cause clutch wear, sometimes at an alarming rate. Dog ignorant users, lads who rip and pull at the gear leavers, can shear a couple of roll pins at the bottom of the gear leavers. these are easy to fix. If, however, the second set of roll pins under the centre of the cab shear, then its a cab off job. Check cab for rust. Better an unsprayed example than a tarted up machine. Make it your business to jack up the front a bit, taking the weight off front axle. Check the two big carrier bearings and centre pivot points are not worn. If they are, then you could run into real trouble down the line, with a new crown and pinion needed. Steering can seem heavy and slow, compared to other makes. especially tractors with only one steering ram. Hydraulic pump output can seem low compared to other makes. Check all spool valves work. there is a small lever alongside the right hand side of the seat, which is the position/draft mix lever. These often seize up. Be nice if all electrics work, Italian wiring and earth leads not a strong point. selectable PTO desirable, older models have a pain-in-the-ass method of selecting 1000 rev PTO , involving a 19mm ring, a 19mm socket and a sawn off piece of a bolt. Get as good a one as you can afford, and it won't drop in value for many years.

Nekarsulm wrote: »

nearly forgot the good points! great engine, reliable gearbox. no servo's nor solonoid switches. no hydro-electric controlled clutch packs. almost all the engine horsepower delivered at the PTO. Hand clutch for PTO allows you start heavy loads slowly. good brakes. very simple to operate for novice drivers etc. easy enough on diesel. you can change the hand brake pads without major surgery, a plate unbolts from the side of the transmission. try and get one with a Dromone hitch.

Nekarsulm wrote: »

and if there comes a horrible vibration and rattle from the transmission, like the bottom is about to fall out of the gearbox, its almost certinly the support bearing for the driveshaft. Halfway along the driveshaft to the front axle. Also important point, the actual gearbox is totally separate to the backed, and has no dipstick . there is a level plug/filler behind the front cab mounting bracket on the tractors right hand side. you could have the backend full, and the actual gearbox its self dry...........
Exhaust manifolds rust through, but time in two halves so only have to replace the bit you need.

You forgot to mention the rot lol

Nekarsulm

eric prydz wrote: »

You forgot to mention the rot lol

"Good to pull, the Iveco is a very reliable engine. Unsympathetic users can cause clutch wear, sometimes at an alarming rate. Dog ignorant users, lads who rip and pull at the gear leavers, can shear a couple of roll pins at the bottom of the gear leavers. these are easy to fix. If, however, the second set of roll pins under the centre of the cab shear, then its a cab off job. Check cab for rust. Better an unsprayed example than a tarted up machine. Make it your business to jack up the front a bit, taking the weight off front axle."


No I didn't !:D

eric prydz

Nekarsulm wrote: »

"Good to pull, the Iveco is a very reliable engine. Unsympathetic users can cause clutch wear, sometimes at an alarming rate. Dog ignorant users, lads who rip and pull at the gear leavers, can shear a couple of roll pins at the bottom of the gear leavers. these are easy to fix. If, however, the second set of roll pins under the centre of the cab shear, then its a cab off job. Check cab for rust. Better an unsprayed example than a tarted up machine. Make it your business to jack up the front a bit, taking the weight off front axle."


No I didn't !:D

Oh I see that now ha,wow you know your stuff on them
Ive never seen any fiat tractor turn into a money pit myself