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Websites selling Cheap chainsaws. Stories ??

  • 11-08-2014 5:32pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭


    came accross this lad on Donedeal.

    he's called

    Alpinetrading.ie

    they are selling an 'MJ Tools' 58cc (3.4 HP), 20 Inch bar chainsaw for €180 + free delivery.


    another dude

    premiertrading.simdif.com

    TimberPro 62cc 20 inch bar for €180 + €10 delivery


    My questions, anybody used them ?

    Whats the delivery service like, and more importantly whats the Chainsaws like ?


    I see lads talking about spending €600-€700 on that size of a chainsaw on other threads .. for a person who will be using a chainsaw for about 2-3 hours per year... surely these yokes will be ok for me ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 770 ✭✭✭viztopia


    bcklschaps wrote: »
    came accross this lad on Donedeal.

    he's called

    Alpinetrading.ie

    they are selling an 'MJ Tools' 58cc (3.4 HP), 20 Inch bar chainsaw for €180 + free delivery.


    another dude

    premiertrading.simdif.com

    TimberPro 62cc 20 inch bar for €180 + €10 delivery


    My questions, anybody used them ?

    Whats the delivery service like, and more importantly whats the Chainsaws like ?


    I see lads talking about spending €600-€700 on that size of a chainsaw on other threads .. for a person who will be using a chainsaw for about 2-3 hours per year... surely these yokes will be ok for me ?

    I would say these are people who have taken in these saws from china and trying to make a quick buck on them. Don't know what you would do if something went wrong. If I were in your position and didn't want to spend big bucks then I would either buy on in Aldi or lidl. I heard these are ok and would suit you. Good thing would be the 3 year warranty. The other thing you could do is buy a Stihl or husky second hand of a dealer. At least then you might have some kind of warranty but you would always have someone to go back to if something went wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭bcklschaps


    viztopia wrote: »
    I would say these are people who have taken in these saws from china and trying to make a quick buck on them. Don't know what you would do if something went wrong. If I were in your position and didn't want to spend big bucks then I would either buy on in Aldi or lidl. I heard these are ok and would suit you. Good thing would be the 3 year warranty. The other thing you could do is buy a Stihl or husky second hand of a dealer. At least then you might have some kind of warranty but you would always have someone to go back to if something went wrong.

    Thanks for the advice. Chinese stuff .. yes, almost certainly the case...
    Will keep an eye on Aldi/Lidl stuff ... although if memory serves me .. their Chainsaw was a much smaller saw .. around 40cc with 14" blade for about €100. I already have a small Chainsaw, an Oleo Mac 37cc - 14" .. but its really a branching saw and not upto cutting down an actual tree of any size.. so hence I want a bigger one. But I don't want to spend €600-€700. I might drop into the local Chainsaw/Lawnmower place and see what they have 2nd hand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 770 ✭✭✭viztopia


    to tell you the truth I was fooled into buying one of the Chinese ones. it worked ok for a while but to be honest I was sorry I didn't put the money spent on it towards a decent saw!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭BreadnBuddha


    bcklschaps wrote: »
    Thanks for the advice. Chinese stuff .. yes, almost certainly the case...
    Will keep an eye on Aldi/Lidl stuff ... although if memory serves me .. their Chainsaw was a much smaller saw .. around 40cc with 14" blade for about €100. I already have a small Chainsaw, an Oleo Mac 37cc - 14" .. but its really a branching saw and not upto cutting down an actual tree of any size.. so hence I want a bigger one. But I don't want to spend €600-€700. I might drop into the local Chainsaw/Lawnmower place and see what they have 2nd hand.

    I'm no expert but if you're taking about 2-3 hours a year falling trees, I guess you're either dropping a handful of big ones or a few smaller ones.

    I'd have a good think about what your needs really are and maybe look for alternatives. With a sharp chain on a 37-40cc saw, especially a decent brand of saw like that one and assuming it's in good tune, I can't see why you couldn't run a 16" bar and chain, swapping it for the few hours use you'll give it.

    With a bit of thought and planning your cuts there's not much you'd be likely to be unable to fall with that combo.

    I think there's a lot of misguidance out there about what size bar you need to run. I don't know if it's from all the west coast US youtubers or the 'my willy's bigger than yours' Chinese configurations, but it's overkill for most peoples needs whatever the reason.

    You might be the exception to the rule but it's worth mentioning for anyone else asking themselves the question.

    I'd agree with the suggestion of buying a used premium brand saw if you really need something in the 60-70cc bracket. eBay can turn up a great deal every now and then on a good power head and you can pick up a bar and chain to suit locally. That way is easier for shipping from all over Europe or even from the US.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,386 ✭✭✭littlevillage



    With a bit of thought and planning your cuts there's not much you'd be likely to be unable to fall with that combo.

    .


    sure you could cut down a giant Redwood with a penknife .. if you had the time and the patience :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭BreadnBuddha


    sure you could cut down a giant Redwood with a penknife .. if you had the time and the patience :rolleyes:

    I almost smiled there. Then I remembered that not everyone is gifted with intelligence. Some compensate with sarcasm in the absence of an ability to provide any helpful and considered advice.

    So, to communicate at your level, what kind of penknife are we talking about now? What exactly does the man with money to burn on tools he doesn't need select?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    Chainsaws please posters, chainsaws.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭BreadnBuddha


    Oldtree wrote: »
    Chainsaws please posters, chainsaws.

    They're lovely things altogether, aren't they? I'd have dozens of the noisy bastards if I could find an excuse that would pass muster. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    I love my stihls. MS 200 T, 026 and an 044 with a short bar, and a 020T in bits


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭BreadnBuddha


    Oldtree wrote: »
    I love my stihls. MS 200 T, 026 and an 044 with a short bar, and a 020T in bits

    I had to visit the local agrishop here a few weeks back looking for some pins for the tractor and it was the first time I paid much attention to the Stihls really. A MS271 for 585 with an 18" bar looked like savage value. The husky 242XPG I have now is still doing the finest but I may look at the Stihls again when the time comes to replace it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    I could not move to a cheap saw, as I have put the stihls through the grinder for over a decade and never been dissapointed. You get what you pay for imo. I find the huskys have a tinny whine that my sthil tuned ears don't like :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭BreadnBuddha


    Oldtree wrote: »
    I could not move to a cheap saw, as I have put the stihls through the grinder for over a decade and never been dissapointed. You get what you pay for imo. I find the huskys have a tinny whine that my sthil tuned ears don't like :P

    Ah heeeore now! There's no need for that, after me extending the olive branch and saying I'd look at a Stihl too!

    Where's the repugnant indignation smiley when you need it! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,386 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    I almost smiled there. Then I remembered that not everyone is gifted with intelligence. Some compensate with sarcasm in the absence of an ability to provide any helpful and considered advice.

    So, to communicate at your level, what kind of penknife are we talking about now? What exactly does the man with money to burn on tools he doesn't need select?


    Its Friday .. will ya chill out!! :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭BreadnBuddha


    Its Friday .. will ya chill out!! :P

    'Twas Wednesday at the time. Halfway between two weekends, a horrible day altogether! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    What Fridays or Wednesdays have to do with cheap chainsaws I don't know. Are discounts offered on those days??? chainsaws please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭BreadnBuddha


    Wednesday is a good day for buying chainsaws. It's a midweek pick me up.

    Friday is a good day for drinking beer when the realisation that you didn't really need to buy that chainsaw hits you.

    So really, Wednesdays and Friday's are intrinsically linked to chainsaw ownership.

    QED.

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    Must be a cheap husky that you are regretting there, can't say I ever regretted buying a Stihl :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭BreadnBuddha


    Which brings me nicely to Sundays. Sunday's are the point of desperation where someone's bought a saw on a Wednesday, the novelty has worn off on the Thursday, they drown their sorrows on a Friday spending far too much in the process, put it on donedeal on Saturday as they think about how they'll put diesel in the caddy for work next week, then on the Sunday, Oldtree turns up pulling faces, sucking through his teeth and telling them he's more of a Husky man than a Stihl man and he'd only pay half their asking for that little MS saw....

    Monday he'll post about it in here, Tuesday someone gets the idea they should buy a saw and on Wednesday, the whole cycle is complete as a new saw is purchased by victim number two.

    I have you figured out. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    rolling.gif Having no experience of buying a cheap chainsaw on a Wednesday, I canot argue, so I will defer to your deep insight on this subject.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Oldtree wrote: »
    rolling.gif Having no experience of buying a cheap chainsaw on a Wednesday, I canot argue, so I will defer to your deep insight on this subject.

    You only buy expensive saws on a Wednesday?:eek:

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley



    I think there's a lot of misguidance out there about what size bar you need to run. I don't know if it's from all the west coast US youtubers or the 'my willy's bigger than yours' Chinese configurations, but it's overkill for most peoples needs whatever the reason.

    Alot of the misguidance comes from the dealers who are themselves uneducated in chainsaw compatibility for users. Seen it so often throughout the years before i starting buying online tool hire staff telling customers they need a bar as big as what they want to cut.
    Indeed the big bar looks the business but alot of the time its completely oversized for its application, I firmly believe alot of chainsaw accidents are due to users with long bars and getting fatigue.
    I feel a basic chainsaw course should be mandatory for anyone purchasing a chainsaw. Im actually suprised at how low the accident rates are when seeing other users that i helped out the time of the storms cut and tidy up fellen trees.
    So back to the chinese saws in my opinion you pay for what you get, once they are not ripping off the public telling them they are made elsewhere and falsy advertising the product.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Reindeer


    Where are you located? I have an Echo 330EVL I was using as my small saw you can have for a buck 50. It's not new, but it is built to last, and it pulls stronger than most new saws in the 40cc class.

    If you must get a saw in that price range, you may want to check your local small engine and saw shops to see what used saws they might have in stock. A lot of folks bought saws during the winter storms - you may find something out there that works within your budget.

    When it comes to chainsaws, it's really best to get a decent name brand; preferably something your local guys can service if need be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    greysides wrote: »
    You only buy expensive saws on a Wednesday?:eek:
    Stihls aren't what I would call cheap, nomatter what day of the week I buy them :D


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Oldtree wrote: »
    Stihls aren't what I would call cheap, nomatter what day of the week I buy them :D

    Saturdays.... car boot sale.

    Not only a 'Stihl' but stolen also!

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Reindeer wrote: »

    When it comes to chainsaws, it's really best to get a decent name brand; preferably something your local guys can service if need be.

    This is the problem now what is a decent brand name in terms of a home owners saw as in what the op wants?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 FireRug


    Try Stihl dealers in your area. Sometimes they take trade-ins which get refurbished and sold back to you with a warranty. €350 for a decent Stihl MS 290 Farm Boss at my local dealer.

    Either that or Lidl/Aldi job. We have one but it's a pain to start at times and has given some trouble. Check out your local hardware/diy shop. They sometimes have decent enough saws on sale. Chadwicks had Hyundai chainsaws going cheap, not anymore though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 FireRug


    Reindeer wrote: »
    Where are you located? I have an Echo 330EVL I was using as my small saw you can have for a buck 50. It's not new, but it is built to last, and it pulls stronger than most new saws in the 40cc class.

    Where are you? I might buy it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭tom_k


    Regarding the OP's question, I recently purchased a Stihl MS250 with 18" bar new that was advertised through DoneDeal and located in Co. Galway. I've just checked again and the seller Stihl(:pac:) has at least one for sale.

    I've only ran it for a few hours but I find it a good balance of power and economy. I also have a Husq 350 but prefer the Stihl, a new broom sweeps clean and all that.

    I've no connection to the seller apart from being a satisfied customer, a quick search of DoneDeal will find this saw or I can PM you details if you wish.


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