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Suits: does it get better?

  • 09-08-2014 5:53pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭


    I thought Id best start this thread afresh than put it in the existing Suits one as a show that's been running for 4 years is bound to have spoilers aplenty.

    This is my second time giving this a go as I like the look of the premise a lot. The first time I probably wasnt in the form for any TV so I put it down to that. Last night I got as far as episode 3 and I found it a bit better.

    But does it get a lot better?

    So far its very uneven for me. Does a fairly ok show become a great one?

    No spoilers please!


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭QikBax


    Dunno mate. I've never seen it.

    Thanks for asking though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    QikBax wrote: »
    Dunno mate. I've never seen it.

    Thanks for asking though.

    No worries.

    You win most insightful reply ever on the TV forum. Well done ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    season 1 and 2 are pretty good, its not really a great show, like breaking bad or the sopranos, its more of a fun to watch kind of show, with a nice light hearted feel to it, but the last season or two i dont think it has been as good,

    another show on the same network is Covert Affairs, its a spy show, it starts off kind like Suits, a decent dose of style over substance, but unlike suits it evolved into a much better drama show, and has gotten better year on year, and its now on season 5,


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    Do any interesting long story arcs kick in or is it mostly a "Case Of The Week" format?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭sullivlo


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    Do any interesting long story arcs kick in or is it mostly a "Case Of The Week" format?

    Long story arcs kick in. Spread over a few weeks.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭The One Who Knocks


    Yes it gets much better, in my opinion anyway.

    Season 3 and 4 have been brilliant so far.

    Having said that, if you're not liking season 1 maybe it's not for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    First season was great, second was good then they seemed to try and be more "worthy" and serious. Fun has definitely gone out of it, I don't bother with it any more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    the long story arcs ruined the show in my opinion, they just dragged the **** out of the whole thing, something that could have been done in 3 episodes was dragged out over 10, now i still watch it, dont get me wrong, but i thought the case of the week stuff in season 1 and 2 worked much better on the show,


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    Having said that, if you're not liking season 1 maybe it's not for you.

    I'll give it 3-4 more episodes. Ive friends who cant praise it highly enough but so far I cant see what the fuss is about.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Seasons 1-2 enjoyable enough, season 3 not so much. I'd keep watching for the anti-Hero turned surprising into an excellent character: Louis "You Just Got Litt Up!" Litt.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    It stays watchable but never really gets going. They've had chances to flip the script a bit but you could easily just watch only Louis and miss nothing. Big disappointment for what it could be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,971 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    I was just wondering the same thing as the OP. I started it too and I thought it was "ok" but a few eps in and it hasn't grabbed me at all, certainly nothing that would justify the reputation this show has.
    Going from comments here I think I'm out!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    If anything it get's progressively worse. The latter seasons 3 and 4 have the odd gems but mostly it's tepid. The show has an identity crisis. It doesn't know if it's serious or light hearted. Personally, preferred it when it was light hearted. Now, even those segments aren't really enjoyable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Season 3 was awful in my opinion. Like mose 'case of the week' shows they've started introducing longer arcs and are focusing more on the relationships about which I could not give two shíts. I think the first two seasons did well at making the audience root for corporate lawyers but they're struggling now. I haven't decided whether to bother with season 4 but if I do it will be purely for the legend that is Louis Litt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,812 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    I'll agree about season 3 being pretty poor.
    I lost interest in it then.

    Season one was good as a typical introductory season.
    Season two is excellent. Daniel Hardman is great addition.

    But by season 3 I get bored of hearing Mike say "Muthaflicka" and Harvey saying "our backs are against the wall".

    Still, (and people will disagree here, but...) Meghan Markle is absolute sex!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    Season 3 was awful in my opinion. Like mose 'case of the week' shows they've started introducing longer arcs and are focusing more on the relationships about which I could not give two shíts. I think the first two seasons did well at making the audience root for corporate lawyers but they're struggling now. I haven't decided whether to bother with season 4 but if I do it will be purely for the legend that is Louis Litt
    season 4 to be fair has so far been better than season 3, no cat drama stuff, and louis is on fire, and his character is getting more rounded, its still not as good as the first 2 seasons, but is better than the 3rd so far,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    Still, (and people will disagree here, but...) Meghan Markle is absolute sex!
    ill take your Rachel and raise you a Donna
    fajnc.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Dots1982


    Watched a couple episodes at the start but the fact that the main character has a sick grandma who he needs to support turned me off.

    A fairly cliched plot device


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    I don't like the young fella much, thst girl is a drip, i love Donna, Harvey is fantastic and Louis is incredible. But it's not must watch TV. It's grand and all but I've never finished an episode and nearly burst from having to wait a week for the next one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭mjavi


    I've been watching Season 4 and Rachel is to Suits as Lori is to Walking Dead which is a shame since she drags down Mike with him. Harvey, Donna and Louis is what is keeping this show together.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,549 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I marathoned season 1, watched season 2 as it aired, watched season 3 within a week of the episode airing and decided not to bother with season 4. As has been said, it got too serious. Also was getting fed up with how Louis was always treated. And if they didn't set Harvey up as someone who never loses, maybe it could have a bit more tension in the cases.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭The One Who Knocks


    God I must be the only one who's actually enjoying Season 4!

    Season 3 was great too from about midway onwards (when the long story arc starts)

    Louis is hilarious, some of the things he has come out with :P

    10457701_534712559984567_2762435260634346146_o.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭GottaGetGatt


    I'm still watching the show and still enjoying it.Lucky for me i found the show nearly two years after it came out so i had the pleasure of binge watching both seasons.Its one of those sit back and enjoy type of shows and still one of the shows i most look forward to watching every week even when all the top shows were airing.

    Season 1 and 2 i thought were excellent.I suppose the thing with season 3 was that the first half aired in 2013 and the other half in 2014 so it probably felt dragged out to most people.There is no doubt that the quality dropped in season 3 but imo season 4 has picked up.

    I know the show is primarily based around Mike but tbh i find the other characters alot more interesting notably Harvey,Donna and Louis and Meghan Markle is just a ball of.... (well you know:p)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    don ramo wrote: »
    ill take your Rachel and raise you a Donna
    fajnc.gif

    Ok.

    Two more chances/episodes it is so :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    I'm still watching the show and still enjoying it.Lucky for me i found the show nearly two years after it came out so i had the pleasure of binge watching both seasons.Its one of those sit back and enjoy type of shows and still one of the shows i most look forward to watching every week even when all the top shows were airing.

    Season 1 and 2 i thought were excellent.I suppose the thing with season 3 was that the first half aired in 2013 and the other half in 2014 so it probably felt dragged out to most people.There is no doubt that the quality dropped in season 3 but imo season 4 has picked up.

    I know the show is primarily based around Mike but tbh i find the other characters alot more interesting notably Harvey,Donna and Louis and Meghan Markle is just a ball of.... (well you know:p)

    even the latter 6 episodes of season 3 were much better than the first 10 episode, it was really (Season 3)
    the hesington oil stuff
    that kind of ruined the show for me, i still finding it hard to get past that let down, the (season 4)
    investment banker
    stuff was a much better story, but the (season 4)
    rachel stuff
    kinda took away from it, and the fact that (Season 4)
    mike is still a frauds is wearing pretty thin 4 seasons in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Don slight favor, would you mind putting in parenthesis which season each spoiler is from. I ask cos I'm not up to date on four and so am very afraid to read the last three. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Don slight favor, would you mind putting in parenthesis which season each spoiler is from. I ask cos I'm not up to date on four and so am very afraid to read the last three. :o
    done, their probably valid up to the last 2 episodes,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Thanks a bundle!:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭GottaGetGatt


    don ramo wrote: »
    even the latter 6 episodes of season 3 were much better than the first 10 episode, it was really (Season 3)
    the hesington oil stuff
    that kind of ruined the show for me, i still finding it hard to get past that let down, the (season 4)
    investment banker
    stuff was a much better story, but the (season 4)
    rachel stuff
    kinda took away from it, and the fact that (Season 4)
    mike is still a frauds is wearing pretty thin 4 seasons in

    I agree,
    The hesington oil story was just tiring by the end of it.I'd had enough of Lady Stark in that year tbh:D. I thought with the investment banker direction, we would finally see the arse end of the constant cat and mouse of whether he was going to be caught out.Now that he's a lawyer again the same issue of him being a fraud is just going to come up again.i'd be very surprised if it gets renewed or if it did then maybe we might see a show without Mike which i think isnt a bad idea at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Spoilers in:
    Hessington oil is a waste of time
    . The whole investment banking thing is tiring me to the point of maybe giving up. I'll stick with it for the sake of Louis and Jessica.

    If you want a law based story thats slightly more realistic and with a laugh or two thrown in then The Good Wife is the way to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Mezcita


    Hands down the show with the best looking women on tv. It's rubbish but I still tune in every week.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    Mezcita wrote: »
    Hands down the show with the best looking women on tv. It's rubbish but I still tune in every week.

    Apart from Donna Im not seeing any decent eye candy

    Donna-Paulsen-Hot.gif

    Unless new characters as easy to look at as her are introduced after season one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    Apart from Donna Im not seeing any decent eye candy

    Donna-Paulsen-Hot.gif

    Unless new characters as easy to look at as her are introduced after season one?
    ah the rest of them try, but their just not donna, no matter how hard they try :pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,549 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Mezcita wrote: »
    Hands down the show with the best looking women on tv. It's rubbish but I still tune in every week.

    Teen Wolf says Hi!


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Jessica is sex on legs but her character gets progressively more one-noted as the show goes on. The writers/show-runners/network chickened out completely by
    having Mike just waltz back into being a lawyer
    so I don't know how long more I'll bother with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    Jessica is sex on legs but her character gets progressively more one-noted as the show goes on. The writers/show-runners/network chickened out completely by
    having Mike just waltz back into being a lawyer
    so I don't know how long more I'll bother with it.
    well it was just renewed for a fifth season,


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    Ive slowly made my way to season 2. Its such a mediocre show and yet so easy to watch most of the time :confused: I still feel its a massive opportunity lost.

    A cool concept executed by someone who thinks "meh" is a good enough standard and written, at least it feels like, a pair of 18 year olds.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    Well that picked up! Already on season 3 and its definitely a show worth persevering with.

    If just for this

    b994c3878dad0bf82d58810fb6555e19.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭The One Who Knocks


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    Well that picked up! Already on season 3 and its definitely a show worth persevering with.

    Glad to find someone else who likes the later seasons! :)

    I actually look forward to watching season 4 every week!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    So I made it upto the season 3 finale last night. Not bad for a show I gave up on first time after four episodes and almost again the second time after seven.

    Once you get over the episode 6/7 hump its an enjoyable show. Very mediocre in some ways but very more-ish in others. Its a strange one.

    Season 4 here I come.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    season 1-2 are brilliant, season 3 was a real let down, but i must say after watching the mid season finale episode this show has hit its high note yet again:):):)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭sham69


    Im way behind...

    Only starting season 2 but really like it, some great characters. (and the women are fantastic)
    Not the best show ever but very enjoyable.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,440 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Magnolia


    Any word on the next series starting on Dave?


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