Will these frequencies work here in ireland??

CianC567

I am looking to buy a oneplus one and was wondering if it would be compatible with Irish networks.

WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100,GSM 900/1800/1900 mHZ,FDD-LTE 2100/1800/2600

D'Peoples Voice

CianC567 wrote: »

I am looking to buy a oneplus one and was wondering if it would be compatible with Irish networks.

WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100,GSM 900/1800/1900 mHZ,FDD-LTE 2100/1800/2600

4G in Ireland in the main is being transmitted on the old Analogue TV frequency of 800Hz, although 3 Ireland are transmitting it on 1800Hz unless I'm mistaken.
You should be fine for 2G/3G which are 900Hz/1800Hz and 2100Hz.

CianC567

So just to be clear, It would work ok?

Baxtardo

Calls and 2G / 3G data will work, 4G won't unless you are with Three as per above post.

Nonoperational

You will only have full potential 4G coverage with 3.

jimgoose

Yes, that's all the usual cellular/GPRS/UMTS/HSPA stuff. It'll be fine.

SpaceTime

Irish bands:

GSM 900 & 1800MHz
UMTS 2100MHz

4G LTE is on 800MHz,1800MHz and 900MHz is licenced but AFAIK, not yet used.

Vodafone & Meteor seem to use 800 while 3 is using 1800. O2 probably uses 800 too but with the O2 & 3 merger that's not necessarily clear.

You should get all services working with a 3 SIM. Unless they migrate to 800 MHz when they complete their technical merger with O2.
There are significant signal propagation advantages to the lower frequency.

Details : http://www.siliconrepublic.com/fs/img/4Gallocations.png

jimgoose

SpaceTime wrote: »

Irish bands:

GSM 900 & 1800MHz
UMTS 2100MHz

4G LTE is on 800MHz,1800MHz and 900MHz is licenced but AFAIK, not yet used.

Vodafone & Meteor seem to use 800 while 3 is using 1800. O2 probably uses 800 too but with the O2 & 3 merger that's not necessarily clear.

You should get all services working with a 3 SIM. Unless they migrate to 800 MHz when they complete their technical merger with O2.
There are significant signal propagation advantages to the lower frequency.

O2 don't do 4G at all yet.

SpaceTime

jimgoose wrote: »

O2 don't do 4G at all yet.

They've got a much better licence than 3 though. It's possible (likely) the merged network will use 800MHz.

O2 began testing 4G in 2013. Their rollout was suspended due to the lack of clarity around the sale to Hutchison Wampoa (3)

jimgoose

SpaceTime wrote: »

They've got a much better licence than 3 though. It's possible (likely) the merged network will use 800MHz.

Mmm. I hope so.

SpaceTime

They're using different vendors too.

Three used Samsung to build out their LTE gear.

As far as I know O2 were working with Ericsson.

Integrating two networks will be fairly complicated.

My guess is that they'll move Three customers onto O2's gear as it has a much better 3G network and three had no 2G.

Nonoperational

Did it have a better 3G network though?

SpaceTime

I'd say it's probably better than what 3 had given the number of cell sites they'd have and all of that.

ED E

If you look at Siteviewer you'll see three have some one off masts where the "Big three"(original incumbents) arent around so if they left off all of their masts coverage as a whole would drop. Im with spacetime that they'll merge onto O2s kit for 2G and some 3G, keep some of their own 3G and then roll out 4G as one bar the stuff already in place.

I dont know this for sure but I assume its trivial for their current LTE masts to drop frequencies onto the O2 band when/if they transition?

SpaceTime

ED E wrote: »

If you look at Siteviewer you'll see three have some one off masts where the "Big three"(original incumbents) arent around so if they left off all of their masts coverage as a whole would drop. Im with spacetime that they'll merge onto O2s kit for 2G and some 3G, keep some of their own 3G and then roll out 4G as one bar the stuff already in place.

I dont know this for sure but I assume its trivial for their current LTE masts to drop frequencies onto the O2 band when/if they transition?

I would assume so, they'll have a licence for both though.

The one handy thing about the GSM family of standards including UMTS and LTE is that they're all an open system, so they should be able to merge equipment from multiple vendors without much difficulty.

sqsqswqdwdwq

Is there a service provider in Ireland that uses 1900MHz?

sentient_6

sqsqswqdwdwq wrote: »

Is there a service provider in Ireland that uses 1900MHz?

No.

sqsqswqdwdwq

Thanks sentient_6. The real question that I was trying to ask was:
I have a T-Mobile (USA) GSM modem suitable that I want to fit into a Simon XT alarm system. I believe T-Mobile uses 1900MHz over there. From your previous reply, it sounds like that modem will not talk with an Eir SIM (1800MHz?). Since the XT alarm system is US made, do you know if there are any other US mobile service providers (e.g. AT&T) that will 'talk' or 'match with Irish mobile frequencies? Or is there any way to adapt or force one frequency to talk with another?

sentient_6

I suppose you would have to look up the exact model of the modem and see what frequencies it supports? Like its probably a Huawei xyz or whatever with T-Mobile branding.

Regardless you'll have to get a eir sim to put into it I wonder could you pick up a modem from them?

sqsqswqdwdwq

Good idea ...... I'll try and see if it supports more than one frequency. Unfortunately, I have to use a US modem in the US made alarm box (Simon XT), because any Irish or Euro made modems do not physically adapt (male/female) to the US made box. I know I can't use a Verizon or a Sprint modem since they use CDMA over there and we don't use CDMA - right?
Thanks for your help anyway!

ED E

sqsqswqdwdwq wrote: »

Good idea ...... I'll try and see if it supports more than one frequency. Unfortunately, I have to use a US modem in the US made alarm box (Simon XT), because any Irish or Euro made modems do not physically adapt (male/female) to the US made box. I know I can't use a Verizon or a Sprint modem since they use CDMA over there and we don't use CDMA - right?
Thanks for your help anyway!

Correct.

Most units support more than a single band so go find that model number.