cows coughing.

mf240

I vacinated cows in april for IBR. this was my first time to vacinate for it and cows were coughing badly with a couple very bad. It cleared them up really well within a week.

Now i notice them all coughing again and was wondering should I treat for lungworms or repeat the ibr vac even though its only 4 months since they were done.

All opions appreciated.

funny man

did they receive a booster shot?

mf240

funny man wrote: »

did they receive a booster shot?

No just one shot of live .

funny man

I vaccinated January last year and they broke down at the start of June right in the middle of breeding. the advice I got was the should have got a primary shot followed by a booster 4 weeks later and to the vaccinate in January and June every year from then on. I'd check with my vet if I was you.

Greengrass1

Our vet told us one shot at start. Everyone else seems to do one shot and then another one 4 weeks later

mf240

Thanks .

Was talking to vet yesterday and his advice was unclear. Think ill redo them as its not that expensive and will treat for worm in a couple of weeks if they dont clear up

jt65

ibr live vaccine lasts for 6 months so wasteful doing them at this stage

i notice a lot of cows coughing just now and am not unduly worried

a cheap lung worm dose if suckling or if dairying you will have to use eprinex or wait until you are drying off

funny man

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Our vet told us one shot at start. Everyone else seems to do one shot and then another one 4 weeks later

I think IBR is a minefield and the advice that is being give out is far from consistent. I bought my vaccine from a vet other than my own and he told me one shot per year but never mentioned it may break down before the year was up let alone inside 6 months. the new problem is using the dead vaccine and it's effectiveness unless there is ultra super bio-security.

Greengrass1

funny man wrote: »

I think IBR is a minefield and the advice that is being give out is far from consistent. I bought my vaccine from a vet other than my own and he told me one shot per year but never mentioned it may break down before the year was up let alone inside 6 months. the new problem is using the dead vaccine and it's effectiveness unless there is ultra super bio-security.

I'm using the live so every 6 mths. Another lad tells me you need the two shots at the start of the programme to build up immunity

funny man

jt65 wrote: »

ibr live vaccine lasts for 6 months so wasteful doing them at this stage

i notice a lot of cows coughing just now and am not unduly worried

a cheap lung worm dose if suckling or if dairying you will have to use eprinex or wait until you are drying off

a vet would confirm if it's an IBR breakdown, it can occur it happened in my herd after 5 months.

Worm dosing cows may also be wasteful, eprinex is not a cheap dose.

RightTurnClyde

I had a big problem with cows coughing earlier in the year. I don't vaccinate for IbR so was worried. Talked to get over the phone, and he said no it was hoose. With IbR you should see a discharge and/or a redness in their mouth and throat. The coughing was a "tounge out" type cough. Did them for hoose with eprinex, dramatic improvement within 7 days. A couple are still coughing, I'll either do those with eprinex again later, or wait till the end of the year and drench.
It does seem to be a bad year for lungworm

jaymla627

mf240 wrote: »

I vacinated cows in april for IBR. this was my first time to vacinate for it and cows were coughing badly with a couple very bad. It cleared them up really well within a week.

Now i notice them all coughing again and was wondering should I treat for lungworms or repeat the ibr vac even though its only 4 months since they were done.

All opions appreciated.

What we thought here was a ibr problem turned out to be pi3 and rsv in the cows, sounds the exact same as here re the coughing

mahoney_j

mf240 wrote: »

I vacinated cows in april for IBR. this was my first time to vacinate for it and cows were coughing badly with a couple very bad. It cleared them up really well within a week.

Now i notice them all coughing again and was wondering should I treat for lungworms or repeat the ibr vac even though its only 4 months since they were done.

All opions appreciated.

Pool a few dung samples and test for worms I think that could be problem on Ibr I go 2 live shots six months apart and then a booster annually in April before breeding.

greysides

Don't waste time if you think it could be hoose. It'll screw them up big time if you let it get hold.

The man in red and black

If there is a suspicion of vaccine failure and they were vaccinated properly then you may find the drug company will pay for some diagnostic testing with viral swabs etc to try get to the bottom of it. Not every company will do it but your vet will have a fair idea if the vaccine company you used would do it. It's good practice for them to find new strains of the various respiratory viruses that are circulating or to confirm vaccine failure. Again it may be unrelated but if the company might pay for testing then why not?! Have a chat with your vet about it

funny man

to the two vets on here, lads what is the correct procedure for starting a vaccination programme for IBR.

mf240

Bought eprinex today and put it on them after milking. If coughing doesent clear up next week will redo them for the ibr. Im leaning towards hoose as there is no runny noses.

greysides

I think the information you are looking for is on these:

http://www.animalhealthireland.ie/ckfinder/userfiles/files/20130516%20IBR%20Info%20Leaflet%281%29.pdf


http://www.msd-animal-health.ie/Binaries/R11-024_Bovilis_IBR_Marker_Live_brochure_Dec_2011_tcm102-94819.pdf




From the Zoetis website:


Vaccination

Live IBR vaccines are very effective for use in the face of clinical disease as they work rapidly[1].

Inactivated vaccines have been shown to be more effective at reducing shedding from latent carriers[2].

A combination of live IBR vaccine followed by inactivated IBR vaccine has been shown to be the most effective programme in reducing both clinical signs and viral shedding in clinical situations[3].


All IBR vaccines in Ireland are marker vaccines and they all previously had 6 months duration of immunity.

However, when using a combination of Rispoval Live IBR initially, followed by Rispoval IBR Inactivated 6 months later, the inactivated vaccine has been shown to provide protection against clinical disease for 12 months.




Also some info here.

greysides

mf240 wrote: »

Bought eprinex today and put it on them after milking. If coughing doesent clear up next week will redo them for the ibr. Im leaning towards hoose as there is no runny noses.

It can take a while for the coughing to stop but it should lessen a lot over a couple of days.

mf240

mf240 wrote: »

Bought eprinex today and put it on them after milking. If coughing doesent clear up next week will redo them for the ibr. Im leaning towards hoose as there is no runny noses.

Cows improved and almost no coughing during milking this morning.

Thanks folks.

whelan2

mf240 wrote: »

Cows improved and almost no coughing during milking this morning.

Thanks folks.

when where they last dosed? Do you do them at drying off?

mf240

Usually give albex at dry off.

Greengrass1

Does anyone give there winter milkers eprinex when they come into shed for the winter?