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Do you export foodstuff to Russia?

  • 07-08-2014 8:46am
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    Reuters reporting that Russia to ban imports of fruit, veg, meat, fish, milk and dairy from EU, US, Australia, Canada and Norway.

    Do you work in this industry and import to Russia? If so, how much of an impact will this make on the company you work for?

    Got a feeling this may affect the citizens of Russia most with Iincreased prices and shortage of essential foods. Unless Russia is already self sufficient in these things.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    I'd be more interested in what foodstuffs Ireland imports from Russia. I don't think I've ever seen Russian produce on the shelves here.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I will miss my caviar and blinis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    snubbleste wrote: »
    I'd be more interested in what foodstuffs Ireland imports from Russia. I don't think I've ever seen Russian produce on the shelves here.

    Vodka? Not that there isn't plenty of alternatives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Germany will be hardest hit by all of this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,719 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Reduced Guinness and Jameson exports to Russia could slide Ireland back into economic depression.

    We need to make up for it in domestic comsumption, tell the wife its a patriotic act and fill your boots!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    I make a good living from shipping Okroshka ad you ain't taking that away from me Putin!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I had to google that Anono, it can also be found in Ukraine :-)

    You's are all getting it the wrong way round, they are banning stuff from here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Ireland exports to the tune of €600m to Russia, I believe. That's a handy few bob in anyone's language.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    I had to google that Anono, it can also be found in Ukraine :-)
    You's are all getting it the wrong way round, they are banning stuff from here.
    We know that. Govt said it would cost something like €235m to Irish exports.
    It also means the EU wine lake and butter mountain are set to grow


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That's a significant amount. May have to retract my statement that this will affect Russian citizens the most.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    That's a significant amount. May have to retract my statement that this will affect Russian citizens the most.

    Ah sure what's 600 million among friends? House prices are on the rise, we'll be grand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭RayCon


    snubbleste wrote: »
    the EU wine lake

    Where is this , can you book a lodge beside it and do Ryanair fly there ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    snubbleste wrote: »
    It also means the EU wine lake and butter mountain are set to grow

    You'd think they'd just sell it cheaper no? Rather than letting it go to waste.

    Wine and butter, we could drink bulletproof wine :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    Waiting for the AHawks to arrive; recommending that countries of the free world must go to war against Russia to get our cheese export market back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Waiting for the AHawks to arrive; recommending that countries of the free world must go to war against Russia to get our cheese export market back.

    But war is good for the economy don't you know?


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    wexie wrote: »
    You'd think they'd just sell it cheaper no? Rather than letting it go to waste.

    Wine and butter, we could drink bulletproof wine :eek:

    I do wonder where your mind is at, wexie, when you find recipes like that! :-P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭comongethappy


    Waiting for the AHawks to arrive; recommending that countries of the free world must go to war against Russia to get our cheese export market back.

    Give me Easy-Singles or give me death!

    To war!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Australian merchandise exports to Russia in 2013 were worth A$736 million and imports from Russia totaled A$1.057 billion.

    Australian exports to Russia in 2013 included meat (particularly beef), butter, and live animals.

    Crude petroleum dominated Australian imports from Russia in the same period, which also included fertilisers, and goods vehicles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    I do wonder where your mind is at, wexie, when you find recipes like that! :-P

    I heard about it on the radio 't other day, apparently it's all the new rage?
    Somehow....putting butter in your coffee gives you more energy and helps you loose weight :confused:

    Sounds pretty rancid if you ask me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,719 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Will be interesting to see how long Putin's supportive Russian citizens will tolerate going without -

    Western cars, appliances, food, comms and IT technology, clothing and textiles, chemicals, etc. Basically all luxury goods.

    The west could close the sales and tech support of almost everything that makes Moscow tick at the stroke of a pen. Russia are playing a dangerous game for themselves.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    New Zealand is not on the list. Excellent news for their dairy/meat/fish industries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Will be interesting to see how long Putin's supportive Russian citizens will tolerate going without -

    Western cars, appliances, food, comms and IT technology, clothing and textiles, chemicals, etc. Basically all luxury goods.

    The west could close the sales and tech support of almost everything that makes Moscow tick at the stroke of a pen. Russia are playing a dangerous game for themselves.

    They could indeed, I wouldn't imagine it's likely to happen as long as Vlad's got his hand on the gas tap though. They'll be able to do without luxury goods an awful lot better as europe can without gas. They have some experience in the matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭comongethappy


    wexie wrote: »
    They could indeed, I wouldn't imagine it's likely to happen as long as Vlad's got his hand on the gas tap though. They'll be able to do without luxury goods an awful lot better as europe can without gas. They have some experience in the matter.

    A Russian gas cut would crash their entire economy.

    'Vlad the president-in-perpetuity' isn't maniacle enough to block 40% of their food at the same time cutting 70% of the nations cash flow over night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    A Russian gas cut would crash their entire economy.

    'Vlad the president-in-perpetuity' isn't maniacle enough to block 40% of their food at the same time cutting 70% of the nations cash flow over night.

    You're right, he's not, but you're wrong in assuming that just because he's not selling it to us it's not getting sold :

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/pikeresearch/2014/05/30/russia-china-gas-deal-narrows-window-for-u-s-exports/

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/22/china-russia-energy-idUSL5N0IC10F20131022

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d9a8b800-e09a-11e3-9534-00144feabdc0.html#axzz39hZkNtFC


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,769 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Well this seems to be yet another way to ruin the economy - both ours and theirs; congrats to all our ruling class and welcome to the next recession.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    Grayson wrote: »
    Vodka? Not that there isn't plenty of alternatives.

    Most "Russian" vodka is produced elsewhere, eg Smirnoff left Russia during the revolution and today is owned by Diageo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭comongethappy


    wexie wrote: »

    True, but that will take the guts of a decade to conet onstream

    Plus Russia had to make massive concessions on the price agreed with China, they are losing over 10% vs current values.

    In the short term, until sufficient pipes flow east, Russia has little choice but to remain selling to Europe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭comongethappy


    Manach wrote: »
    Well this seems to be yet another way to ruin the economy - both ours and theirs; congrats to all our ruling class and welcome to the next recession.

    Perhaps not.

    EU countries sold $16 billion worth of agri produce to Russia in 2013.

    That amounts to 1/10th of 1% of the EU economy.

    Russia already bans certain produce & this ban will only affect certain sectors.

    Its simply not big enough to create a recession.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    Waiting for the AHawks to arrive; recommending that countries of the free world must go to war against Russia to get our cheese export market back.


    You do realise how important our cheese industry is, don't you?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    This will allow emerging markets to expand trade export routes to Russia.

    If Russia had the balls, they'd stop trading their natural resources in US dollars.. just like Saddam Hussein threatened to do.. and surprise Iraq was invaded.


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    snubbleste wrote: »
    This will allow emerging markets to expand trade export routes to Russia.

    If Russia had the balls, they'd stop trading their natural resources in US dollars.. just like Saddam Hussein threatened to do.. and surprise Iraq was invaded.

    Arent they already planning to do that? Thought they were in talks with China to do exactly that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭comongethappy


    snubbleste wrote: »
    If Russia had the balls, they'd stop trading their natural resources in US dollars

    Its not about balls.... It's about money.

    I'd love them to sell their oil & gas in Roubles.
    It being a weak currency would mean we get move fuel for our euro.

    But why would Russia lose money like that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Arent they already planning to do that? Thought they were in talks with China to do exactly that.

    Weren't they thinking of moving to the Euro though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    snubbleste wrote: »
    We know that. Govt said it would cost something like €235m to Irish exports.
    It also means the EU wine lake and butter mountain are set to grow

    Considering we waste more on Public Sector sick days I think we can bear this.

    Now lets hope the US and EU hit back with far more punitive sanctions like Flight restrictions for Russian Airlines over the US and Europe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭sparksfly


    gandalf wrote: »
    Considering we waste more on Public Sector sick days I think we can bear this.

    Now lets hope the US and EU hit back with far more punitive sanctions like Flight restrictions for Russian Airlines over the US and Europe.

    Ah the good old USA and its friends who destabilize any areas around the globe to gain influence, including the Ukraine. The same US who arm and support the Isrealies in the slaughter in Gaza.

    Yea, lets hope they take the high moral ground.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    wexie wrote: »
    You'd think they'd just sell it cheaper no? Rather than letting it go to waste.

    Wine and butter, we could drink bulletproof wine :eek:

    Better still turn it into bio-fuel reducing our requirement for imported gas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭LizzieJones


    Reuters reporting that Russia to ban imports of fruit, veg, meat, fish, milk and dairy from EU, US, Australia, Canada and Norway.

    Do you work in this industry and import to Russia? If so, how much of an impact will this make on the company you work for?

    Got a feeling this may affect the citizens of Russia most with Iincreased prices and shortage of essential foods. Unless Russia is already self sufficient in these things.

    Russia is essentially shooting themselves in the foot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭LizzieJones


    wexie wrote: »
    I heard about it on the radio 't other day, apparently it's all the new rage?
    Somehow....putting butter in your coffee gives you more energy and helps you loose weight :confused:

    Sounds pretty rancid if you ask me

    It has been a very popular recipe amongst the low carb crowd for a few years now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Russia has the land to be self sufficient in agriculture. They have the cheap gas to heat the greenhouses warm during the winter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    I live in a country which exports a lot of food to Russia. Ever since these sanctions came in you can buy some of the surplus foods intended for the Russian market in the shops here but extremely cheaply, with Russian language packaging and so on. It's a trip.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    I live in a country which exports a lot of food to Russia. Ever since these sanctions came in you can buy some of the surplus foods intended for the Russian market in the shops here but extremely cheaply, with Russian language packaging and so on. It's a trip.


    I heard this was the case in some countries like Finland for example.


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