what is income tax for again?

beta maximum

I drive I pay road tax I get my rubbish collection and I pay the bin company.
I get sick I pay the GP and I pay for my own medicine.
I pay a TV licence.
Now I have to pay a water tax with a private for profit fat cat company.

Everything I purchase has VAT on it.
This really is a banana Republic.

My opinion is the main thing income tax funds is corruption cronyism and waste.

Let the bears pay the bear tax

thelad95

beta maximum wrote: »

I drive I pay road tax I get my rubbish collection and I pay the bin company.
I get sick I pay the GP and I pay for my own medicine.
I pay a TV licence.
Now I have to pay a water tax with a private for profit fat cat company.

Everything I purchase has VAT on it.
This really is a banana Republic.

My opinion is the main thing income tax funds is corruption cronyism and waste.

Reading this gave me a headache.

Frosty McSnowballs

I pay the Homer tax!

everdead.ie

beta maximum wrote: »

I drive I pay road tax I get my rubbish collection and I pay the bin company.
I get sick I pay the GP and I pay for my own medicine.
I pay a TV licence.
Now I have to pay a water tax with a private for profit fat cat company.

Everything I purchase has VAT on it.
This really is a banana Republic.

My opinion is the main thing income tax funds is corruption cronyism and waste.

Income tax is meant to be a "fairer" way to pay tax where those who earn more pay proportionally more tax.

Its a progressive tax where as consumption taxes are deemed less progressive even if they are pay as you use.

For Forks Sake

Dónal wrote: »

Let the bears pay the bear tax

We're here, we're queer, we don't want any more bears.

Tail Docker

Income tax is for the little people Op. It always was.

longhalloween

Are you an idiot?

beta maximum

everdead.ie wrote: »

Income tax is meant to be a "fairer" way to pay tax where those who earn more pay proportionally more tax.

Its a progressive tax where as consumption taxes are deemed less progressive even if they are pay as you use.

Meant to be is the opritave part there.
Earn enough and you just dodge tax altogether.

kneemos

May I be the first to say dole scroungers and scummers.

everdead.ie

beta maximum wrote: »

Meant to be is the opritave part there.
Earn enough and you just dodge tax altogether.

Ya not really I'm afraid unless you live outside of the country for over 6 months of the year their is no way around income tax.

Lapin

This being After Hours, the obvious answer is - Income Tax is paid by people in jobs in order to furnish the lavish lifestyles of all the lazy gits on the dole and pay for prams for single mothers, cars for Nigerian assylum seeking taxi drivers and x-boxes for prisoners.

El Weirdo

beta maximum wrote: »

I drive I pay road tax I get my rubbish collection and I pay the bin company.
I get sick I pay the GP and I pay for my own medicine.
I pay a TV licence.
Now I have to pay a water tax with a private for profit fat cat company.

Everything I purchase has VAT on it.
This really is a banana Republic.

My opinion is the main thing income tax funds is corruption cronyism and waste.

I don't think you have the first idea of what a banana republic even is.

takamichinoku

It's for me to claim back in its entirety at the end of year to blow on travelling and ****.

Manach

Income Tax is just a short term measure to pay for the Napoleonic War.

Tail Docker

longhalloween wrote: »

Are you an idiot?

In as much as? What is income tax for? It's a tax on your income, the money you earn. Why then are there more taxes? It's a simple question, it's a fair question. Which leads me to ask, are you an idiot?

longhalloween

Money can be exchanged for goods and services

Tail Docker

longhalloween wrote: »

Money can be exchanged for goods and services

Yeah, that confirms it, thanks.

beta maximum

longhalloween wrote: »

Money can be exchanged for goods and services

And I would hazard a guess many of those goods and sevices would include expensive booze and hookers for government junkets.

Guy:Incognito

Tail Docker wrote: »

In as much as? What is income tax for? It's a tax on your income, the money you earn. Why then are there more taxes? It's a simple question, it's a fair question. Which leads me to ask, are you an idiot?

It may be a simple question but the op could list all the other things the government has to pay for that he didn't name and can't think of a tax they pay that they think goes directly to pay for that service.

Motor tax doesn't go to pay for roads BTW op, it goes to general funds. It pays for roads the same way any other tax that goes in to the pot does. Otherwise they might call it road tax.

longhalloween

Tail Docker wrote: »

In as much as? What is income tax for? It's a tax on your income, the money you earn. Why then are there more taxes? It's a simple question, it's a fair question. Which leads me to ask, are you an idiot?

Because income tax is a general tax among all those employed, used to provide services which are deemed essential in a first world country. Services such as the Emergency Services, a Civil Service, a Government, public transport and infrastructure and social services.

The others are more targeted taxes, aimed at those who benefit from the specific service or things deemed to be non-essential.

Also don't get pissy about paying for water. People have paid for electricity and gas forever and there are thousands around the country who pay into group water schemes and pay to have wells dug.

beta maximum wrote: »

And I would hazard a guess many of those goods and sevices would include expensive booze and hookers for government junkets.

Cop yourself on. You're a grown man.

Guy:Incognito

beta maximum wrote: »

And I would hazard a guess many of those goods and sevices would include expensive booze and hookers for government junkets.

Did you go to school when you were younger? Have you ever visited a hospital? You know those lads in the various uniforms? Some of them uphold laws, others drive ambulances, yet more put fires out. Ever wonder how the grass in the park gets cut. Etc etc

Tail Docker

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

It may be a simple question but the op could list all the other things the government has to pay for that he didn't name and can't think of a tax they pay that they think goes directly to pay for that service.

Motor tax doesn't go to pay for roads BTW op, it goes to general funds. It pays for roads the same way any other tax that goes in to the pot does. Otherwise they might call it road tax.

Yeah, but see, you're missing the big point. There's income tax. They tax the money you sweat for. That's their "bit". Their "income". They then go pay for all the stuff we need out of their "income". But, what actually happens, is they "Tax" you again, and again, and again, from a thousand sneaky angles. Then, they tell us "we're a low tax country....". Yeah, right.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

beta maximum wrote: »

I drive I pay road tax I get my rubbish collection and I pay the bin company.
I get sick I pay the GP and I pay for my own medicine.
I pay a TV licence.
Now I have to pay a water tax with a private for profit fat cat company.

Everything I purchase has VAT on it.
This really is a banana Republic.

My opinion is the main thing income tax funds is corruption cronyism and waste.

Ever hear of Schools or Hospitals? Law enforcement, Courts or Gaols? Army or Navy? Social welfare? National Parks? Old age pensions? In fact you're taking the Michael really, aren't you.
You're such a card!

Tail Docker

Arthur Rich Bread wrote: »

Ever hear of Schools or Hospitals? Law enforcement, Courts or Gaols? Army or Navy? Social welfare? National Parks? Old age pensions? In fact you're taking the Michael really, aren't you.
You're such a card!

Yup. The state get "income" tax to pay for all that. They tax the money you earn...you pay "tax" on your income... struggling here tbh.. might be too big a question. Fcuk me.

beta maximum

longhalloween wrote: »

Because income tax is a general tax among all those employed, used to provide services which are deemed essential in a first world country. Services such as the Emergency Services, a Civil Service, a Government, public transport and infrastructure and social services.

The others are more targeted taxes, aimed at those who benefit from the specific service or things deemed to be non-essential.

Also don't get pissy about paying for water. People have paid for electricity and gas forever and there are thousands around the country who pay into group water schemes and pay to have wells dug.



Cop yourself on. You're a grown man.

It was a joke I don't think most have a problem paying their way but it seems to easy to keep adding more taxes.
And being 100% serious I believe corruption and waste is a big problem.

longhalloween

Tail Docker wrote: »

...from a thousand sneaky angles.

On my payslip there is 3 taxes. Income tax, PRSI and USC.

I pay VAT on stuff I buy and motor tax for the car.

I pay for my utilities.

Where's your thousand angles???
What's sneaky about any of it???
All the information is every tax this government levies is right here: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/

Tail Docker wrote: »

Yup. The state get "income" tax to pay for all that. They tax the money you earn...you pay "tax" on your income... struggling here tbh.. might be too big a question. Fcuk me.

I'm struggling to understand how you don't get the concept of tax

Tail Docker

beta maximum wrote: »

It was a joke I don't think most have a problem paying their way but it seems to easy to keep adding more taxes.
And being 100% serious I believe corruption and waste is a big problem.

Cissy. Make your point, fight for it till your fingers bleed and never back down. You're flippy flopping there Buddy. Firm the feck up.

dxhound2005

Tail Docker wrote: »

Cissy. Make your point, fight for it till your fingers bleed and never back down. You're flippy flopping there Buddy. Firm the feck up.

Yeah, like the crowd who said Don't Register, Don't Pay. Where are they now?

longhalloween

Tail Docker wrote: »

Cissy. Make your point, fight for it till your fingers bleed and never back down. You're flippy flopping there Buddy. Firm the feck up.

Go easy on him. He's new.

Remember the AH rule: Deny, Deny, Deny. Even when someone confronts you with proof, pretend you didn't see it and keep denying.

For Forks Sake

Your questions answered: http://www.publicpolicy.ie/where-does-your-tax-go/

longhalloween

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Your questions answered: http://www.publicpolicy.ie/where-does-your-tax-go/

Wow, a tenner a month from my salary pays HSE compensation claims....

And my contribution to defense is 20 times greater than health research...

dissed doc

beta maximum wrote: »

I drive I pay road tax I get my rubbish collection and I pay the bin company.
I get sick I pay the GP and I pay for my own medicine.
I pay a TV licence.
Now I have to pay a water tax with a private for profit fat cat company.

Everything I purchase has VAT on it.
This really is a banana Republic.

My opinion is the main thing income tax funds is corruption cronyism and waste.

If you are paying all those things, then the income tax you pay really goes to support the 2 or 3 families and individuals that do not work or pay tax. Ireland is a socialist state, you have forgotten. Tax is not for your services.

beta maximum

longhalloween wrote: »

Go easy on him. He's new.

Remember the AH rule: Deny, Deny, Deny. Even when someone confronts you with proof, pretend you didn't see it and keep denying.

A good tip.

longhalloween

dissed doc wrote: »

If you are paying all those things, then the income tax you pay really goes to support the 2 or 3 families and individuals that do not work or pay tax. Ireland is a socialist state, you have forgotten. Tax is not for your services.

I think we're more a capitalist state with socialist tendencies.

Arthur Beesley

beta maximum wrote: »

I drive I pay road tax I get my rubbish collection and I pay the bin company.
I get sick I pay the GP and I pay for my own medicine.
I pay a TV licence.
Now I have to pay a water tax with a private for profit fat cat company.

Everything I purchase has VAT on it.
This really is a banana Republic.

My opinion is the main thing income tax funds is corruption cronyism and waste.

Someone has to pay for public sector increments and gold plated pensions.

For Forks Sake

longhalloween wrote: »

Wow, a tenner a month from my salary pays HSE compensation claims....

And my contribution to defense is 20 times greater than health research...

I don't think health research is something that governments anywhere spend a huge budget on to be fair.

Mint Sauce

beta maximum wrote: »

I drive I pay road tax I get my rubbish collection and I pay the bin company.
I get sick I pay the GP and I pay for my own medicine.
I pay a TV licence.
Now I have to pay a water tax with a private for profit fat cat company.

Everything I purchase has VAT on it.
This really is a banana Republic.

My opinion is the main thing income tax funds is corruption cronyism and waste.

Motor tax. MOTOR TAX!! For the privilege of driving something that omits emissions.

Its not a water tax. Its a charge for the amount of water you use, the same as gas, electricity, etc.

Bin charges, its a dirty job, you expect them to do it for free?

TV License, I wont argue with you on that one, considering that RTE also get revenue from advertising. PRSI I will give you as well, does annoy me that I have to pay to see my GP, go to A&E, considering I have already paid it in my wage slip.

The one though I'm surprised you did not mention was property tax. Considering that you already pay Stamp Duty, and how can you pay tax on something you already own, and the biggest consideration, that it does not go towards local public services.

VAT, sure thats been around for as long as most people remember. It hardly makes us a banana republic, considering that most developed countries, and probably the developing countries have similar tax systems.

Iwasfrozen

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Your questions answered: http://www.publicpolicy.ie/where-does-your-tax-go/

Soooo much of that could be cut...

wow sierra

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Your questions answered: http://www.publicpolicy.ie/where-does-your-tax-go/

14% on Education - seems wasted on evidence of After Hours (yeah I know I am posting here :rolleyes::rolleyes:)

Roger_007

Most of the income tax we pay is just 'wasted' on health, education, social welfare and policing. Shure we don't really need any of those things.....do we?.

Tail Docker

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Motor tax. MOTOR TAX!! For the privilege of driving something that omits emissions.

Its not a water tax. Its a charge for the amount of water you use, the same as gas, electricity, etc.

Bin charges, its a dirty job, you expect them to do it for free?

TV License, I wont argue with you on that one, considering that RTE also get revenue from advertising. PRSI I will give you as well, does annoy me that I have to pay to see my GP, go to A&E, considering I have already paid it in my wage slip.

The one though I'm surprised you did not mention was property tax. Considering that you already pay Stamp Duty, and how can you pay tax on something you already own, and the biggest consideration, that it does not go towards local public services.

VAT, sure thats been around for as long as most people remember. It hardly makes us a banana republic, considering that most developed countries, and probably the developing countries have similar tax systems.

Give us the jazzy take on Death duties -I'm all ears.

MadYaker

Jaysus ive never seen this thread on after hours before

dxhound2005

MadYaker wrote: »

Jaysus ive never seen this thread on after hours before

That's why the title is "What is Income Tax for again?".