Mandatory Drive Test Every 10 Years

Potential-Monke

Reading through the N-Plate thread, and it reminded me about something i always thought would be a good idea.

Should there be a mandatory driving test for everyone every 10 years? We all know plenty of the older generation who got their never-expiring full licences due to a backlog years back, and who, if tested today, would probably fail. We also know people with relatively new licences, or those with the full licence a few years, but are still incapable of driving correctly.

Or, do you think the Gardai should be allowed to direct someone to resit the test to either avoid a driving conviction for minor offences, or because they believe that the person is a hazard on the road and needs to resit the test?

I think both should happen. I would find it a minor inconvenience to have to resit the test every 10 years, because, while i'm not a perfect driver, I consider myself a damn sight better than a lot of other road users. And i don't see it as punishing the good for the mistakes of the bad.

Also, the test should be revamped and include a more comprehensive test, like Sweden.

thelad95

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Reading through the N-Plate thread, and it reminded me about something i always thought would be a good idea.

Should there be a mandatory driving test for everyone every 10 years? We all know plenty of the older generation who got their never-expiring full licences due to a backlog years back, and who, if tested today, would probably fail. We also know people with relatively new licences, or those with the full licence a few years, but are still incapable of driving correctly.

Or, do you think the Gardai should be allowed to direct someone to resit the test to either avoid a driving conviction for minor offences, or because they believe that the person is a hazard on the road and needs to resit the test?

I think both should happen. I would find it a minor inconvenience to have to resit the test every 10 years, because, while i'm not a perfect driver, I consider myself a damn sight better than a lot of other road users. And i don't see it as punishing the good for the mistakes of the bad.

Also, the test should be revamped and include a more comprehensive test, like Sweden.

No.

Sir Arthur Daley

They drive on the wrong side of the road in Sweden, there would be carnage.

Sh1tbag OToole

thelad95 wrote: »

No.

Tis bad enough to be having to bring the car to the NCT every year.

Carpenter

WHAT and give them more cash will you go aaaaaaaway out of that .

Hotfail.com

Why does everybody seem to think everything's perfect in Sweden....?

SureYWouldntYa

People slack off once they've passed the test, think they have nothing more to learn about driving

thelad95

Hotfail.com wrote: »

Why does everybody seem to think everything's perfect in Sweden....?

It is


http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/welcome-to-sweden-meme.jpg

Maybe some kind of mandatory refresher course after 10 years, but not resitting the test altogether.

dj jarvis

Hotfail.com wrote: »

Why does everybody seem to think everything's perfect in Sweden....?

i can never understand that - and seeing Dublin has the safest roads in all of Europe , i fail to see how re testing everyone makes it safer

OP , you might have gotten more agreement with re testing those to be at fault in an accident or being done for reckless/dangerous driving

but for everyone ? thats just mad ted :eek:

Dowl88

If you get six penalty points on your license you should be made retake it.

Also a monthly test for female drivers and a weekly test for someone over 60

mirrorwall14

I actually agree with this. Or at least that the guards can order a retest (perhaps only on the basis of a ticket?). It is a little mental that I took a test at 18 and I will never need to do it again?

beta maximum

N plates greedy revenue generation theory test and so on for new drivers and the muppets all agree.
Aim a bit of the pain at older drivers and we get an instant whinge feast.

V.W.L 11

Flying Fox wrote: »

Maybe some kind of mandatory refresher course after 10 years, but not resitting the test altogether.

Truck and Bus drivers must do driver CPC every year,learners of cars and bikes must do EDT & IBT so yes some sort of annual refresher course is required,the standard of driving on our roads is pretty poor but some people think once they have their full licences they're experts!!! !but sure i passed my driving test.......................................... In 1979 would be a likely response

dj jarvis

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

I actually agree with this. Or at least that the guards can order a retest (perhaps only on the basis of a ticket?). It is a little mental that I took a test at 18 and I will never need to do it again?

same could be said for your school or uni exams , sit them once , then never do them again , well you dont need to sit them again because you are using what you learned everyday , same with driving

if it shows that you need to resit it due to bad driving or a court case , then fair enough.

i have my full car licence 20 years , i do 30,000 miles apx a year , no points , full no claims , never crashed or in court.

why should i be retested seeing i display none of the things that might warrant a retest ?

Adamantium

Great! more tests, more rules, more regulation, I'll not make sure not to kill anybody next time I'm out on the road because that's what I was intent on doing last time

V.W.L 11

I bet some people wish sylvester barrett was still alive and the minister for the environment.

dj jarvis

V.W.L 11 wrote: »

Truck and Bus drivers must do driver CPC every year,learners of cars and bikes must do EDT & IBT so yes some sort of annual refresher course is required,the standard of driving on our roads is pretty poor but some people think once they have their full licences they're experts!!! !but sure i passed my driving test.......................................... In 1979 would be a likely response

and if they have a clean licence from 1979 , they probably are experts

why should all resit because of a few ?
target the bad ones , leave the rest of us alone

and this when we have the most improved road record in Europe , Dublin the safest European city to drive in.

anyway , if someone feels the need a refresher , then you can do it privately , it will even help your insurance
forcing it on all other good drivers is just bonkers

V.W.L 11

dj jarvis wrote: »

and if they have a clean licence from 1979 , they probably are experts

why should all resit because of a few ?
target the bad ones , leave the rest of us alone

and this when we have the most improved road record in Europe , Dublin the safest European city to drive in.

anyway , if someone feels the need a refresher , then you can do it privately , it will even help your insurance
forcing it on all other good drivers is just bonkers

I said 1979 for a very very good reason look at my other post

Hotfail.com

dj jarvis wrote: »

and if they have a clean licence from 1979 , they probably are experts

why should all resit because of a few ?
target the bad ones , leave the rest of us alone

and this when we have the most improved road record in Europe , Dublin the safest European city to drive in.

anyway , if someone feels the need a refresher , then you can do it privately , it will even help your insurance
forcing it on all other good drivers is just bonkers

Probably because you can't move over the congestion

sonyvision

Sit another test, no thanks another money maken operation if it comes in.

Do the instructors of the RSA have to resit there exams 1s they are certified?

Does any body drive the way they did in their driving test any way ? I know i dont

Tail Docker

Monkey, shut up. Some gobdaw Politician will read this, spot a bandwagon and hop on. Next thing you know, it'll be law. Another Law. One to go with all the other nannying, pita bleedin laws. As an example, there's talk(there actually is) of bringing in compulsory motor insurance for ride-on lawn mowers. Not for use on the public road, but for using it in your garden. Nuts. Don't feed the nuts.

dj jarvis

V.W.L 11 wrote: »

I said 1979 for a very very good reason look at my other post

i know why , i remember it , my mates 60 year old mother was handed a full licence with ALL category listed , including a TRUCK.

still does not change my point , if someone with one of these licences is not driving dangerously and has it clean , then obviously they dont need a retest.

it boils down to enforcement - its the traffic corp to catch bad drivers , and the fear of a retest due to bad driving would no doubt soften a lot of peoples cough

just leave the others alone - its nearly harassment by the RSA at this stage

dj jarvis

Hotfail.com wrote: »

Probably because you can't move over the congestion

other citys have congestion , just like Dublin , but by the amount of road users per head , Dublin is safer

nothing to do with size or congestion

London is like a car park at rush hour , same as Dublin , but you are safer in the Dublin traffic than you are London


we must be doing something right - never stop improving , sure , but mandatory retest for all - thats smells of a FF cash scam ,
Your name is Noel Dempsy by any chance

mickydoomsux

Let's just retest all auld ones.

Universally terrible drivers but they are consider "safe" because they are incapable of traveling at anything approaching a normal speed and as we all know in Ireland, speed is literally the only factor in accidents :rolleyes:

Potential-Monke

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

People slack off once they've passed the test, think they have nothing more to learn about driving

This is exactly my point. People get the licence and never have to sit another test, regardless of the changes in the rules of the road, or new laws with regards to driving.

Carpenter wrote: »

WHAT and give them more cash will you go aaaaaaaway out of that .

dj jarvis wrote: »

why should all resit because of a few ?
target the bad ones , leave the rest of us alone...
...forcing it on all other good drivers is just bonkers

While i agree that they (Government) may turn it into a money making exercise, if done right it may not be a bad thing. And yes, it would be hindering those with clean records, but if you're good at driving you've nothing to worry about.

dj jarvis wrote: »

OP , you might have gotten more agreement with re testing those to be at fault in an accident or being done for reckless/dangerous driving

but for everyone ? thats just mad ted :eek:

That's why i put in the Garda option as a stand alone choice. But again, i don't see a good driver with a clean record having any problems passing the test again. And it's only once every 10 years, a lot can change in 10 years!

dj jarvis wrote: »

i know why , i remember it , my mates 60 year old mother was handed a full licence with ALL category listed , including a TRUCK.

That's where my idea stemmed from, people were handed out licences without ever having to prove their competency. This is really who i was aiming it at.

dj jarvis

Potential-Monke wrote: »

This is exactly my point. People get the licence and never have to sit another test, regardless of the changes in the rules of the road, or new laws with regards to driving.





While i agree that they (Government) may turn it into a money making exercise, if done right it may not be a bad thing. And yes, it would be hindering those with clean records, but if you're good at driving you've nothing to worry about.



That's why i put in the Garda option as a stand alone choice. But again, i don't see a good driver with a clean record having any problems passing the test again. And it's only once every 10 years, a lot can change in 10 years!



That's where my idea stemmed from, people were handed out licences without ever having to prove their competency. This is really who i was aiming it at.

my opinion for what its worth is this, retest should be more commonplace , but for people caught driving badly - more of that , and the ripple effect to the rest of bad drivers would soon be felt

same effect to the changes in the drink driving laws , once people seen the cops actually enforcing the laws , the amount dropped 50% for the 27,000 done in 2007

enforcement on bad driving and drivers is the way - not dropping MORE crap on road users

and dont get me going on motorcyclists having to wear a poxy N for two years after passing a test - maybe on the bike , but wear it ?????

only road users forced to wear a certain type of clothing - funk that

gandalf

To be honest if the traffic laws were stringently applied a lot of the dodgy drivers would be weeded out with penalty points.

There is no enforcement of any meaningful kind of our traffic laws. The amount of people I see on their mobiles driving every day is frightening including in the over taking lane on the M50. The missus swears that a guy we overtook at the weekend was texting while driving.

We have plenty of laws we don't have enough resources to enforce them. Put the money into that first and not more test infrastructure.

If after that people still feel we have an issue then bring in mandatory testing but there should be no charge to the public for this.

Hotfail.com

dj jarvis wrote: »

other citys have congestion , just like Dublin , but by the amount of road users per head , Dublin is safer

nothing to do with size or congestion

London is like a car park at rush hour , same as Dublin , but you are safer in the Dublin traffic than you are London


we must be doing something right - never stop improving , sure , but mandatory retest for all - thats smells of a FF cash scam ,
Your name is Noel Dempsy by any chance

Pfft no, I'm Leo Varadkar. Hence, Hot Fail.

Cantremember

Typical proposal to over regulate those who can be regulated. The flip side of this approach is do nothing about real issues.

AllGunsBlazing

Retesting every single person with a licence? You'd never get on top of the backlog it would cause from the very start. Bull**** idea.

Berserker

Dowl88 wrote: »

If you get six penalty points on your license you should be made retake it.

I would go with this too. The standard of driving is dreadful on the road. Far too many people think that driving is a right, not a privilege.

dj jarvis wrote: »

same could be said for your school or uni exams , sit them once , then never do them again , well you dont need to sit them again because you are using what you learned everyday , same with driving

And what about the people who never sat a test in the first place? Remember the licence give away? Do you not think that they should sit a test? As I said above, those who have built up penalty points, should have to re-sit it. If you have 6 or more points, you are not a competent driver.

VinLieger

Mandatory test every 5 years after 60 and every 2 years after 80

The Pheasant2

Are our road deaths even that high? Tbh I think the N plate is already a step too far...I honestly found my driving test more stressful than my Leaving and hope I never have to do it again.

Absolutely 0 chance I would support this.

scudzilla

Not a full test every 10yrs, just a small mini test, fail it and you have to do a full one.

When ya get to 65 ya have to automatically retake a full test, then again at 70, then every 2yrs after that.

Old people deteriorate so rapidly but of course no TD would ever propose that, as they'd lose the vote of the grannies overnight

dj jarvis

Berserker wrote: »

I would go with this too. The standard of driving is dreadful on the road. Far too many people think that driving is a right, not a privilege.



And what about the people who never sat a test in the first place? Remember the licence give away? Do you not think that they should sit a test? As I said above, those who have built up penalty points, should have to re-sit it. If you have 6 or more points, you are not a competent driver.

as i said in another post , if they were handed a licence through no fault of their own ,and have no points , then they are probably good drivers seeing they have their licence still , after nearly 40 years.

punish the ones who display bad driving skills - as they do in most country's

Berserker

scudzilla wrote: »

Old people deteriorate so rapidly but of course no TD would ever propose that, as they'd lose the vote of the grannies overnight

Old people can be overly cautious. I have noticed a serious increase in overly aggressive driving over the past few years. Aggression is just as dangerous, if not more. I take the back roads to work and some of the overtaking I see is bordering on ridiculous. (continuous white lines, overtaking on sharp bends, overtaking more than one vehicle at once)