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Foam in Streams in Dublin Mountains looks dodgy. What is it ?

  • 04-08-2014 12:33pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭


    I have attached a photo taken of a section of stream in the Dublin Mountains recently.

    Can anyone shed light upon what this foam is ? Is it from Acid rain or chemicals ? Is it harmful ? it doesnt look natural but someone tried to assure me it was ...


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    You see that foaming where a rush of water gets stalled by an obstacle. No unusual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭St. Leibowitz


    Foam in turbulent water is caused by a surficant trapping air. Detergent is probably the surficant most common to us, and we see its effects when washing the dishes.

    However, there are many natural surficants. Some of these are released by algae and plants during decomposition, and also when living, and is known as DOC (dissolved organic carbon) once it enters a water stream. In rivers and streams, DOC can be created by water plants, but often gets washed in from the surrounding land. After very high rainfall, the DOC content in watercourses would be very high due to the flushing of surrounding land, and therefore the foaming at turbulent spots particularly active. Lakes and streams with brown water indicate high DOC, and are particulaly prone to foaming.

    So given the location (which appears to be away from industry), the recent heavy rain, and the high flowrate, it looks like your example is natural. The recent Tolka example happened during a dry spell, and downstream from industry, and so was immediately of a suspicious nature.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭BeerSteakBirds


    Thanks . It just looks so unnatural to me for some reason. Is it poisonous or is the water in such a location less safe to drink ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    I wouldn't recommend drinking river water in any area with farming activity locally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Zoo4m8


    If it bothers you don't drink it..but it's never done me any harm and will still drink from a stream on occasion..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    It's a fairly natural phenomenon - this from a poem written by William Allingham. (1824–1889)


    UP the airy mountain,
    Down the rushy glen,
    We daren't go a-hunting
    For fear of little men;
    Wee folk, good folk,
    Trooping all together;
    Green jacket, red cap,
    And white owl's feather!

    Down along the rocky shore
    Some make their home,
    They live on crispy pancakes
    Of yellow tide-foam;


    Some in the reeds
    Of the black mountain lake,
    With frogs for their watch-dogs,
    All night awake.

    High on the hill-top
    The old King sits;
    He is now so old and gray
    He 's nigh lost his wits.
    With a bridge of white mist
    Columbkill he crosses,
    On his stately journeys
    From Slieveleague to Rosses;

    Or going up with music
    On cold starry nights
    To sup with the Queen
    Of the gay Northern Lights.

    They stole little Bridget
    For seven years long;
    When she came down again
    Her friends were all gone.
    They took her lightly back,
    Between the night and morrow,

    They thought that she was fast asleep,
    But she was dead with sorrow.
    They have kept her ever since
    Deep within the lake,
    On a bed of flag-leaves,
    Watching till she wake.

    By the craggy hill-side,
    Through the mosses bare,
    They have planted thorn-trees
    For pleasure here and there.
    If any man so daring
    As dig them up in spite,
    He shall find their sharpest thorns
    In his bed at night.

    Up the airy mountain,
    Down the rushy glen,
    We daren't go a-hunting
    For fear of little men;
    Wee folk, good folk,
    Trooping all together;
    Green jacket, red cap,
    And white owl's feather!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Most likely natural if you're up the mountains however, surfactants from septic tanks and treatments facilities get into rivers.

    This is why I make sure I use biodegradable detergents.

    ecover dishwasher tablets work just fine for example. You don't really need most of the chemicals that are being marketed at you.


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