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Glorney 2014

  • 04-08-2014 10:33am
    #1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Got underway in Stirling this morning; two games a day till Wednesday.

    All games are live here.

    We are reigning u-12 champs of course!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭eclipsechaser


    cdeb wrote: »
    Got underway in Stirling this morning; two games a day till Wednesday.

    All games are live here.

    We are reigning u-12 champs of course!

    First round against England. Tough start but you've got to beat them at some stage to win it!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Stokes (u-12s) not live as yet.

    1-0 down in the u-14s, and in trouble on at least two other boards. Winning on one, though, level on another and I think David Halpenny is winning despite the mate in one threat and knight fork to go a second exchange (for three pawns) down that he has to keep an eye on!

    Edit - 2-0 down now. I don't know what's happening on Mihailo's board in the u-14s; he's made his move, but his clock is still ticking. Way behind everyone else too; that board may have broken?

    Fairly sure David Halpenny is easily winning actually. Fun position though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Ciaran


    cdeb wrote: »
    1-0 down in the u-14s, and in trouble on at least two other boards. Winning on one, though, level on another and I think David Halpenny is winning despite the mate in one threat and knight fork to go a second exchange (for three pawns) down that he has to keep an eye on!

    Edit - 2-0 down now. I don't know what's happening on Mihailo's board in the u-14s; he's made his move, but his clock is still ticking. Way behind everyone else too; that board may have broken?

    Fairly sure David Halpenny is easily winning actually. Fun position though!

    2-2 now. Losing on the other 2 boards though afaics.

    Edit: Ross's game is trickier than I thought, the knight on e4 covers both pawns, he's very low on time though.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Yep, looks like Ross can't stop both those pawns. 4-2's respectable though.

    Anastasija has won in the Gilbert; our only black. Should be able to pick up something in the other two games.

    Two draws so far in the Glorney.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Ciaran


    Ciaran wrote: »
    Ross's game is trickier than I thought, the knight on e4 covers both pawns, he's very low on time though.
    Houdini struggling to find a winning plan for black if white just shuffles the knight over and back between e4 and g3. If the c-pawm pushes, the knight goes to e2 and the king comes over to take it (bishop can't defend as it can be deflected by an f7 push). Looks like it might be a draw actually, very interesting.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    The clocks have stopped in Mihailo's game; I don't know does that mean he's resigned. He's a piece down anyway; only going one way unfortunately.

    Do you mean e4/g3 or e4/g5?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Ciaran


    cdeb wrote: »
    The clocks have stopped in Mihailo's game; I don't know does that mean he's resigned. He's a piece down anyway; only going one way unfortunately.

    Do you mean e4/g3 or e4/g5?

    e4-g3, this was on move 72. The black g-pawn is just going to run now it looks like, pity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Ciaran


    Oissine Murphy seems to winning in the Glorney, unless I'm missing something. Geoffrey Keating looks to be in big trouble though. A 3-2 loss to England wouldn't be a terrible result though.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Trivial win for Oissine coming up in the Glorney. Would peg it back to 2-2, with just one game to go (though we look in trouble in that).

    Still, given how England have performed in this competition in the past, looking like a solid first round from us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Ciaran


    Catherine Hearne seems to have drawn. Houdini offers an interesting winning attempt of bringing the knight to d3 and then playing h4 to open the kingside. Black's king is stuck defending c5 and the bishop can't do anything useful. Alice O'Gorman's game is going to be a draw too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Ciaran


    3.5-1.5 up in the Stokes (under-12s) apparently.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    @beattychess is tweeting as per last year for anyone interested.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Ireland 1-0 up against Wales in the Robinson already.

    Looks like only four of the boards are working there.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Ireland 4-0 Wales in the Robinson. Two boards not working; no idea how they went.

    Ireland 4-1 Wales in the Stokes, and Alex Byrne winning the last (assuming his flag hasn't fallen - the screen is showing 0:00, but fairly sure they have increments, and hard to imagine running out of time in that position)

    Ireland 1-0 Wales in the Gilbert; we're winning one and losing the other two (mate in 1)

    Ireland 1-1 Wales in the Glorney; we're winning the bottom board and the other two are interesting endgames. One a double-rook pawn ending, and the other a double-bishop pawn ending.

    Looks like a good afternoon all round really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭Chessrookie


    Glorney had a good 3.2 win over Wales this afternoon
    After day 1 we are level with Scotland and 1 point behind England

    Gilbert were beaten 2.1 and are third after day 1, 1 point behind leaders Wales. We play Scotland tomorrow morning and a win would keep the pressure up on England and Wales.

    Robertson had a good afternoon winning 5.5 0.5 and are second a half point behind England and 1.5 ahead of Scotland.

    Stokes lead the tournament by 1 point from England and are very unlucky not to lead by 2 as an Irish flag dropped late in the last game in a very strong position.

    Scotland up first tomorrow morning followed by Wales in the afternoon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    cdeb wrote: »
    Looks like only four of the boards are working there.
    Happens in the Irish championships, happens in the Glorney, happens in Tromso for pete's sakes - are these things particularly flakey or something?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Full standings from @BeattyChess -

    Glorney
    England 6/10
    Scotland, Ireland 5
    Wales 4

    Don't remember it being this close before?

    Robinson
    England 8/12
    Ireland 7½
    Scotland 6
    Wales 5

    Stokes
    Ireland 8½/12
    England 7½
    Wales 6
    Scotland 2

    Gilbert
    Wales 4/6
    England 3½
    Ireland 3
    Scotland 1½

    I think that all ties in with chessrookie's post above.

    We'll know a lot more after this morning's games, when everyone has played everyone. In the Stokes, for example, we stand to stretch our lead a bit if Wales take points off England (like they did against us) and we rack up a good score against Scotland (like England did against them)

    How are the England players chosen btw? Is it their top junior side? I see their site just calls for interested players, which means it mayn't be their strongest side necessarily. I thought I saw a while back they didn't usually put out their strongest side at all (obviously they've plenty of players, and their squad is still strong enough to dominate the tournament usually). Be interesting to see how other countries view the tournament though.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Seems to be a 9am start today rather than 9:30 as per the website.

    Anyways, they're off. Just the one board broken today (a Benildus board, annoyingly enough!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    Sparks wrote: »
    Happens in the Irish championships, happens in the Glorney, happens in Tromso for pete's sakes - are these things particularly flakey or something?
    Yep. I don't know if it's hardware or software, but they seem to be relatively easy to break, and it's usually not worth trying to fix them mid-game.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Not looking good in the Robinson at all. 2-0 down against Scotland; look to be losing in at least one other, and England already 4-0 up against Wales.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Two 6-0s aren't entirely out the question in the Stokes, for Ireland and England. Ireland v England is this afternoon's game.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Two 6-0s came through in the Stokes; we have a one-point lead ahead of this afternoon, when the live boards say we're playing Wales but the schedule says we're playing England?

    Nightmare in the Robinson; England won 6-0 and we lost 5-1. At least one game was lost on time with a better position. Playing for pride and second place now.

    Beat Scotland 2-1 in the Gilbert; England won 2½-½ against Wales, so we jump to second, a point off the lead.

    Presuming we lost the last board in the Glorney - which is clearly lost, but there's no result up; let's assume a flag didn't fall - we lost 3-2 to Scotland, while England won 4-1

    So standings now are -

    Glorney
    England 10/15
    Scotland 8
    Ireland 7
    Wales 5

    Robinson
    England 14/18
    Scotland 11
    Ireland 8½
    Wales 2½

    Stokes
    Ireland 14½/18
    England 13½
    Wales 6
    Scotland 2

    Gilbert
    England 6/9
    Ireland 5
    Wales 4½
    Scotland 2


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Detailed results cards, including ratings, are on the Chess Scotland webpage -

    Glorney
    Robinson
    Stokes
    Gilbert

    These games usually affect Irish ratings.

    Anastasija's win against England (1298 v 1793) looks like the result of the tournament so far. (Though I've not checked every one obviously)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Danny Dwyer's game is mad; I don't know did he mean to drop a piece, but he's since sacced an exchange, lashed pawns at his opponent's king and I think has a winning attack. Q, R+6 v Q, 2R+3.

    England have won 6-0 again; we've already dropped half a point and look like drawing at best on board 1 as well. Getting tight!

    Edit - actually, he might have taken the wrong pawn - d5 instead of a2. Now his pawns are held up just short of the finishing line, and his opponent has gotten an open d-file.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Danny's opponent hangs a rook! Mad stuff. Easy win now, unless I'm missing something. Great game; unfortunate end. Edit - just hung the other rook too. When it rains, it pours!

    Alex looked in trouble earlier trying to hang on to an isolated pawn, but that's just finished as a draw.

    So assuming Danny wins, we've rescued a 5-1 win. We're now level with England ahead of the last day.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Tables ahead of the final day -

    Glorney
    England 13½/20
    Scotland and Ireland 9½
    Wales 7½

    Robinson
    England 17/24
    Scotland and Ireland 13½
    Wales 4

    Stokes
    Ireland and England 19½/24
    Wales 7
    Scotland 2

    Gilbert
    England 8½/12
    Wales 7
    Ireland 5½
    Scotland 3


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Stokes lose 4½-1½ to England; looks like it's all over there unfortunately.

    Looking like 4-1 down in the Robinson, with board 6 still level enough.

    Might sneak a half point in the Gilbert, but no more.

    3½-½ down in the Glorney, and a pawn down in the last.

    Back to English dominance, it seems.


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