HKC 10/70 GSM q

Dave1014

Hi guys

GSM Jam Fault came up on the panel after it just activated a few min ago. My understanding is that this is because of the use of a gsm blocker.



First time I have seen this fault. Can somebody shed some light?

Thanks in advance!!

kub

Dave1014 wrote: »

Hi guys

GSM Jam Fault came up on the panel after it just activated a few min ago. My understanding is that this is because of the use of a gsm blocker.



First time I have seen this fault. Can somebody shed some light?

Thanks in advance!!

Did the Jam fault cause it to activate? Or did something else?

Dave1014

kub wrote: »

Did the Jam fault cause it to activate? Or did something else?

Hey
The gsm jam fault caused it to activate. No other zones shown.

We are in a rural area with no close neighbours. Heard something outside and the alarm activated 30 seconds later. Zone shown was as above. When I got to the front door a van drove on up the road. We don't get much traffic especially early hours of the morning.

Diggerdunne

Did you check the status of the sim? I think mine has done the same in the past. I have poor gsm signal and if the signal drops for a certain period of time it detects it as a signal jam even tho its a loss of signal. The van could of been a coincidence or it was someone trying to see if your alarm activates when its jammed.
There is a setting to not trigger the alarm when the signal is blocked or drops.
I had to turn my setting off as alarm was goin off at stupid o clock frighten the sh1t out of us.
I then swapped providers and sim reception is better and so re enabled the setting...

Dave1014

Reception in the area is perfect. We are about 3 mile away from a mast and always have full coverage so reception wise we are fine.

My obvious concern is could it have been a gsm jammer that activated it? My main concern is obviously the home but also the scooby doo parked in the drive!!

altor

Dave1014 wrote: »

Reception in the area is perfect. We are about 3 mile away from a mast and always have full coverage so reception wise we are fine.

My obvious concern is could it have been a gsm jammer that activated it? My main concern is obviously the home but also the scooby doo parked in the drive!!

Yes if the signal was being blocked it would of activated the alarm.
If you have not had any issues with the GSM signal and then this happened I would have to expect the worse.

Dave1014

altor wrote: »

Yes if the signal was being blocked it would of activated the alarm.
If you have not had any issues with the GSM signal and then this happened I would have to expect the worse.

That's what my fear was!!! Time to get a gun I think!!!

The house was recently renovated and part of it is still what a building site so I imagine tools was the target of the car!!!
Dirty rotten scum bags!!!
Well I had a baseball bat at hand which was ready to be swung!!

Should this incident happen again where a gsm jammer is used and the alarm activated when we weren't around, would the gsm q send out a forced signal before the signal is jammed or should I look into having a back up such as a text dialler from the wired phone line?

altor

Dave1014 wrote: »

That's what my fear was!!! Time to get a gun I think!!!

The house was recently renovated and part of it is still what a building site so I imagine tools was the target of the car!!!
Dirty rotten scum bags!!!
Well I had a baseball bat at hand which was ready to be swung!!

Should this incident happen again where a gsm jammer is used and the alarm activated when we weren't around, would the gsm q send out a forced signal before the signal is jammed or should I look into having a back up such as a text dialler from the wired phone line?

Is the phone line accessible from the outside of the house?

Dave1014

altor wrote: »

Is the phone line accessible from the outside of the house?

With a ladder yes!! It's about 18 foot high but I suppose a rope around it and a good yank would prob pull it down. 😢

altor

Dave1014 wrote: »

With a ladder yes!! It's about 18 foot high but I suppose a rope around it and a good yank would prob pull it down. 😢

That is the danger especially if a jammer was used.

Dave1014

Any suggestions?!!!

I currently have a few extra bits added such as external lights activating should the alarm activate. Was thinking of maybe independent sensor lights.

My worry now is notification should the alarm activate

altor

Dave1014 wrote: »

Any suggestions?!!!

I currently have a few extra bits added such as external lights activation should the alarm activate. Was thinking of maybe independent sensor lights.

My worry now is notification should the alarm activate

Radio would be one of the hardest to block as you would need to know what your doing to do this.
Alternatively a GSM-SC plus wifi or lan card would get you a total failure in an hour or 15 minutes depending on which package you choose.

altor

Here is a link to them for more information.

Dave1014

altor wrote: »

Radio would be one of the hardest to block as you would need to know what your doing to do this.
Alternatively a GSM-SC plus wifi or lan card would get you a total failure in an hour or 15 minutes depending on which package you choose.

When you say "would get you a total failure in an hour" what do you mean?

altor

Dave1014 wrote: »

When you say "would get you a total failure in an hour" what do you mean?

The lan an GSM-SC are in communication with the server, you would get a notification to your phone from the App for loss of connectivity to site detected within 1 hour. It can be done for 15 minutes if you went for the second option.

Dave1014

I used to be an alarm engineer a good few years back but have been out of touch with it am on a learning curve here with all the extras available for the 10/70!!

Any ideas of a price for the LAN card?

The things we gotta do to keep the scum away from the door!!

altor

Dave1014 wrote: »

I used to be an alarm engineer a good few years back but have been out of touch with it am on a learning curve here with all the extras available for the 10/70!!

Any ideas of a price for the LAN card?

The things we gotta do to keep the scum away from the door!!

Price wise you would need to contact suppliers on the suppliers list for pricing.
Depending on the version of software on the original 10/70 you may need to upgrade this.

Dave1014

I will give a shout around and see what I can get.
Thanks for all the help. Everybody's assistance is appreciated
Hopefully will be able to get something sorted in the next few days

altor

Dave1014 wrote: »

I will give a shout around and see what I can get.
Thanks for all the help. Everybody's assistance is appreciated
Hopefully will be able to get something sorted in the next few days

Your welcome, any other problems let us know.

Dave1014

Is it possible for the alarm to be set up to detect an interruption in the power supply to lighting??

altor

Dave1014 wrote: »

Is it possible for the alarm to be set up to detect an interruption in the power supply to lighting??

You can have the system send you a sim in the event of system faults.
If the light was on the same supply as the alarm, the control panel would indicate a problem with the lighting circuit.