Neighbour using my Cattle Pen

Gilroy

Hi,
I have a cattle pen on a public lane attached to my land. I came home today and found my neighbour using it dosing cattle. He never asks me if he can use it and I think its a bit cheeky....

Its a few times now, let me know what ye think?

Gilroy

Greengrass1

Gilroy wrote: »

Hi,
I have a cattle pen on a public lane attached to my land. I came home today and found my neighbour using it dosing cattle. He never asks me if he can use it and I think its a bit cheeky....

Its a few times now, let me know what ye think?

Gilroy

Throw a chain around the gates into it and the head gate. Can't use it then

I said

Big no no cheeky bastard

moy83

Gilroy wrote: »

Hi,
I have a cattle pen on a public lane attached to my land. I came home today and found my neighbour using it dosing cattle. He never asks me if he can use it and I think its a bit cheeky....

Its a few times now, let me know what ye think?

Gilroy

Well I dont think it allowed anyhow to have a different herd using your facilities .
Damn cheeky not to ask aswell

user2012

If it was me I'd think it's cheeky too but is it worth a potential fall out?
You can't put a price on a good neighbour so I suppose it depends how well the two of you get along & interact.

Gilroy

user2012 wrote: »

If it was me I'd think it's cheeky too but is it worth a potential fall out?
You can't put a price on a good neighbour so I suppose it depends how well the two of you get along & interact.

I hear ya but I walked up to the pen when I seen them and they chatted like if they owned it.

Not one acknowledged that I did it up recently and never said thanks for the use. Just pushing them on through my new cattle crush gate......

John_Rambo

Next time you see them do it leg it over to his house for a nap. In his bed with no clothes on. Leave some hand cream and cleanex on the bedside locker.

Tokyo

Bit cheeky alright, depends on the neighbour I suppose. Good neighbour otherwise, I might let it slide. Otherwise I'd be throwing a chain around the gate and let him ask for the key next time if he needs it that badly.

Gilroy

user2012 wrote: »

If it was me I'd think it's cheeky too but is it worth a potential fall out?
You can't put a price on a good neighbour so I suppose it depends how well the two of you get along & interact.

I hear ya but I walked up to the pen when I seen them and they chatted like if they owned it.

Not one acknowledged that I did it up recently and never said thanks for the use. Just pushing them on through my new cattle crush gate......

micky mouse

does he clean it after he uses it Gilroy..my neighbour used mine once to skull a heap of cattle,didnt clean the blood after/hasn't used it since I can tell you

user2012

Gilroy wrote: »

I hear ya but I walked up to the pen when I seen them and they chatted like if they owned it.

Not one acknowledged that I did it up recently and never said thanks for the use. Just pushing them on through my new cattle crush gate......

Some people have neck alright. Probably didn't see anything wrong with what they did. Doesn't make it right though.
If you got a man in to do it you could always pass on his number to them for when they do their own one, just to be helpful & friendly like

Gilroy

micky mouse wrote: »

does he clean it after he uses it Gilroy..my neighbour used mine once to skull a heap of cattle,didnt clean the blood after/hasn't used it since I can tell you

Nope never cleans and i just think its taking advantage. I never ask them for anything.

mikeoh

Can u park a trailer in the pen and leave it there less offensive than a chain but just as effective.......... Do nothing too rash let the dust settle

micky mouse

"public lane" does that mean that public walk through your yard to gain access for walks ,or is chute alongside public lane

restive

One thing you need to look into is insurance. If he has an accident while using your pen he can claim of your insurance.

Reggie.

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Throw a chain around the gates into it and the head gate. Can't use it then

+1

mf240

Sure you might aswell let them use it. They might do you a turn when your stuck for something else.

exercise is the antidote

Like miname said in the security thread, Stick the mother in law in there.

Victor

Are there animal health issues here? It's not quite the same as herds occasionally sharing the same lane.

Deepsouthwest

Gilroy wrote: »

Hi,
I have a cattle pen on a public lane attached to my land. I came home today and found my neighbour using it dosing cattle. He never asks me if he can use it and I think its a bit cheeky....

Its a few times now, let me know what ye think?

Gilroy

Can u explain "pen on a public lane" a bit clearer?

893bet

By public lane I assume he means public roadway where the roadway is not a primary road rather a local road with no road markings etc

whelan2

it would be basic manners for the guy to ask the op could he use the crush, but some people dont have them. We have a crush along the road on our outfarm and one neighbour uses it an odd time , he always asks beforehand and leaves it as he got it

Reggie.

whelan2 wrote: »

it would be basic manners for the guy to ask the op could he use the crush, but some people dont have them. We have a crush along the road on our outfarm and one neighbour uses it an odd time , he always asks beforehand and leaves it as he got it

Ya wouldn't mind them using it then

Deepsouthwest

893bet wrote: »

By public lane I assume he means public roadway where the roadway is not a primary road rather a local road with no road markings etc

Then I assume he means it's beside a public roadway, I thought it might have been built on an old boreen, and the neighbour might've been exercising his right to use the boreen. Land, boreens, rights of way etc. can be v complicated sometimes!

lakill Farm

whelan2 wrote: »

it would be basic manners for the guy to ask the op could he use the crush, but some people dont have them. We have a crush along the road on our outfarm and one neighbour uses it an odd time , he always asks beforehand and leaves it as he got it

Thats the key to giving a loan of something to someone. He is threating your asset the same way if not better than you would.

I suggest a lock on the back gate into the crush race. Wouldnt that also leave the crush area useless.

agriman27

It's a tricky situation you have to be careful not to fall out with them if you like them ,your only option might be to say nothing if you want to remain friendly. If the yard is the access point to your land you could put a chain and lock on it like mentioned before and just say its for security with all the cattle thefts going on lately

KatyMac

Happened to me many years ago. But I didn't know who did it and they must have been monsters of cattle as two of the uprights seemed to be strained outward and the end gate didn't close properly afterward. I got the chute fixed and got the endgate (obviously not a head gate) made that it could be removed completely. It now sits in our shed at the house and is brought down to the pen when it is needed. Problem solved.
In another spot a neighbour has shown me where he has hidden the key to his pen so that if I'm ever stuck I can use it. Such difference!

agriman27

KatyMac wrote: »

Happened to me many years ago. But I didn't know who did it and they must have been monsters of cattle as two of the uprights seemed to be strained outward and the end gate didn't close properly afterward. I got the chute fixed and got the endgate (obviously not a head gate) made that it could be removed completely. It now sits in our shed at the house and is brought down to the pen when it is needed. Problem solved.
In another spot a neighbour has shown me where he has hidden the key to his pen so that if I'm ever stuck I can use it. Such difference!

That was a good solution to your problem, but the OPs situation is more difficult because he saw the boys using it, they're gonna know any measures done are to keep 'them' out

lakill Farm

agriman27 wrote: »

That was a good solution to your problem, but the OPs situation is more difficult because he saw the boys using it, they're gonna know any measures done are to keep 'them' out

could put a combination lock on the gate and tell the "neightbour" to give him a call if he ever needs the code

then when he uses it change the lock for identical lock with a different code

Kovu

But is the issue the fact that they didn't ask for permission rather than the neighbours just using it at all?

If Gilroy is just annoyed at them not asking for permission then wouldn't an option be to place a chain & lock on the crush rear gate/headlock and mention to neighbours that he has heard of these being stolen out of holding pens that aren't in farmyards.

If they want to use the pen in future they can ask for the key and both sides get to hold their heads up and not insult the other.

I said

.Kovu. wrote: »

But is the issue the fact that they didn't ask for permission rather than the neighbours just using it at all?

If Gilroy is just annoyed at them not asking for permission then wouldn't an option be to place a chain & lock on the crush rear gate/headlock and mention to neighbours that he has heard of these being stolen out of holding pens that aren't in farmyards.

If they want to use the pen in future they can ask for the key and both sides get to hold their heads up and not insult the other.

Neighbours already insulted him by not asking, alright if it's a sick beast needs tending fairly quick but to carry on as if its normal practice is a bit pulling the piss a bit.

Seaba

All depends on how mad you are at the lack of appreciation/acknowledgement shown by these neighbours.
If it really annoys you, leave it a few weeks and throw a lock on it as the other posters have said. Let them contact you if they want to use it.
If it doesn't annoy you that much, let it off.

You know the neighbours best - are they being sly or do they genuinely think you wouldn't mind since you are a neighbour, and all of that?
As someone said early it's not nice falling out with neighbours but at the same time it's a worse feeling thinking you are being taken for a ride.

Capercaille

I know a lad who brings the cattle down to the mart for the herd test. When the mart is closed.

greysides

Capercaille wrote: »

I know a lad who brings the cattle down to the mart for the herd test. When the mart is closed.

I hope that he, and everyone else involved, realises that it is an illegal activity and there could be severe consequences for all involved if the Dept were to take action.

All animals going through a mart are meant to be of a known clear disease status. This is not the case for cattle that are out-of-test.

handlemaster

I'd put a lock on it. That kind of neighbour is not good. People talking here of good relations, everyone knows to ask for somthing like this.

Capercaille

greysides wrote: »

I hope that he, and everyone else involved, realises that it is an illegal activity and there could be severe consequences for all involved if the Dept were to take action.

All animals going through a mart are meant to be of a known clear disease status. This is not the case for cattle that are out-of-test.

He's a wild man, he couldn't care less.

Nekarsulm

Capercaille wrote: »

He's a wild man, he couldn't care less.

How does he work it when its a Department test?

Capercaille

Nekarsulm wrote: »

How does he work it when its a Department test?

The department test is usually done by the vet in practice, not the department vet. He's own vet is hardly going to rat him in. I don't think he has ever had reactors anyways.

Sam Kade

Tell him that you keep a few pi calves in the pen now and again or else take the gate off the crush when you aren't using it. He'll have to ask next time

whelan2

Sam Kade wrote: »

Tell him that you keep a few pi calves in the pen now and again or else take the gate off the crush when you aren't using it. He'll have to ask next time

or go down and say that you want to use the pen and just wanted to make sure you wouldnt be stepping on his toes by doing so

Lando Griffin

You should have effed them out of it there and then and let them know where you stand reguarding this crap; never mind pussy footing around them and puttin locks on this and that; the day you need the crush yourself you wont know where you left the key be damned.

Sam Kade

Lando Griffin wrote: »

You should have effed them out of it there and then and let them know where you stand reguarding this crap; never mind pussy footing around them and puttin locks on this and that; the day you need the crush yourself you wont know where you left the key be damned.

That's true, if you let them walk over you once what will he decide to do next graze his cattle on your land.

mf240

Very easy to go fall out with a neighbour over fcuk all , nobody died its not the end of the world. Ive a couple of neighbours that would do similar if stuck. But same lads would be sound and would help ya out if they could.

Horace

Look at this from another angle , Should someone from the Dept come asking why two different herds are using the same pen your honest answer is he using it without you permission