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Puppy Vaccination at 7 Weeks

  • 30-07-2014 11:23am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭


    I have been contacted by someone who bought a pup who was given its first inoculation at seven weeks and 1 day old.

    They contacted their vet (who also happens to be my own incidentally) who have stated that they would like to restart the pup's vaccinations because they state that the immune system of the pup would not recognise the vaccinations until 8 weeks old.

    Is anyone aware of this?

    My friend is contemplating contacting the breeder to be reimbursed the cost of the initial inoculation as they will now end up paying for two vaccinations.

    The pup is now 10.5 weeks old.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,763 ✭✭✭Knine


    Lemlin wrote: »
    I have been contacted by someone who bought a pup who was given its first inoculation at seven weeks and 1 day old.

    They contacted their vet (who also happens to be my own incidentally) who have stated that they would like to restart the pup's vaccinations because they state that the immune system of the pup would not recognise the vaccinations until 8 weeks old.

    Is anyone aware of this?

    My friend is contemplating contacting the breeder to be reimbursed the cost of the initial inoculation as they will now end up paying for two vaccinations.

    The pup is now 10.5 weeks old.

    Yes my own vet did my last litter & then decided that they wanted to be 100% sure the pups were covered so they just gave a third vaccination which was foc.

    This was for the same reasons you mentioned above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,611 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    My vet will give parvo only at 6 weeks, but won't do the core vaccines until 8 weeks for the reasons given.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    Is it really that big of a deal to pay for two vaccinations? I had my pups done at 6 weeks, Parvo only so then needed two more vaccinations to complete the course.
    I really dont see what the big issue here is, its around €40 for a vaccination, hardly going to break the bank. They will be paying for vaccinations for the rest of the dogs life so surely this doesnt warrant trying to claim back from the breeder? It doesnt make sense??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,611 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    andreac wrote: »
    Is it really that big of a deal to pay for two vaccinations? I had my pups done at 6 weeks, Parvo only so then needed two more vaccinations to complete the course.
    I really dont see what the big issue here is, its around €40 for a vaccination, hardly going to break the bank. They will be paying for vaccinations for the rest of the dogs life so surely this doesnt warrant trying to claim back from the breeder? It doesnt make sense??

    I'd be surprised if a vet did the first vaccination at that age, so maybe the breeder did it themselves? If so, it would be even less, and a very good idea to start the course over again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    muddypaws wrote: »
    I'd be surprised if a vet did the first vaccination at that age, so maybe the breeder did it themselves? If so, it would be even less, and a very good idea to start the course over again.

    I asked the same question but this lady has a fully stamped veterinary certificate. She works with me and I've seen same because she called round to the vet on her lunch break to book the pup in and brought the documents she has.
    andreac wrote: »
    Is it really that big of a deal to pay for two vaccinations? I had my pups done at 6 weeks, Parvo only so then needed two more vaccinations to complete the course.
    I really dont see what the big issue here is, its around €40 for a vaccination, hardly going to break the bank. They will be paying for vaccinations for the rest of the dogs life so surely this doesnt warrant trying to claim back from the breeder? It doesnt make sense??

    I can't really comment on someone else's financial situation to be honest. Different amounts can have relevance to different people and their budgets and I'm not in a position to question this person re their budget.

    I think the other concern is that this person has paid €500 for this pup so I think it's also the concern that they paid a good price to a reputable breeder and it now appears the puppy has not been vaccinated correctly. This lady appears to be wondering if any other corners may have been cut. The breeder also gave a contract stating the puppy needed one more vaccination within 2 to 4 weeks. Not 2 vaccinations as the pup now requires.

    The cost of a vaccination here is €35 in Cavan by the way. I can't comment overly on the ins and outs of it all to be honest. This lady is a friend of a work colleague who also works here and I can only review the documents I've been shown.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭boomerang


    How old was the pup when she bought it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    boomerang wrote: »
    How old was the pup when she bought it?

    Just under 8 weeks. She collected it on the Saturday and it was 8 weeks on the Monday.

    The vaccination was given when the pup was 7 weeks and 1 day old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭boomerang


    Was it definitely only the Parvo vaccine the pup got or was it the 7-in-1? Because some vet practices will give the first 7-in-1 early (from six weeks) and then a booster 7-in-1 four weeks later. Vaccination protocol varies from clinic to clinic. I would encourage your friend to ring the vet practice where the puppy was first vaccinated and ask them about their particular vaccination schedule for pups.

    If the pup got the Parvo vaccine only, this is a precaution taken by many vets in advance of the full 7-in-1 vaccinations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    boomerang wrote: »
    Was it definitely only the Parvo vaccine the pup got or was it the 7-in-1? Because some vet practices will give the first 7-in-1 early (from six weeks) and then a booster 7-in-1 four weeks later. Vaccination protocol varies from clinic to clinic. I would encourage your friend to ring the vet practice where the puppy was first vaccinated and ask them about their particular vaccination schedule for pups.

    If the pup got the Parvo vaccine only, this is a precaution taken by many vets in advance of the full 7-in-1 vaccinations.

    It's the full 7-in-1. The vet looked over the paperwork for her today when she went round to book the appointment.

    The contract she showed me also quite clearly says only one vaccination is outstanding and must be given within 2 to 4 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,763 ✭✭✭Knine


    Lemlin wrote: »
    It's the full 7-in-1. The vet looked over the paperwork for her today when she went round to book the appointment.

    The contract she showed me also quite clearly says only one vaccination is outstanding and must be given within 2 to 4 weeks.

    That would be the vets fault though if he vaccinated too early, not the breeders fault. My vet decided he had done ours a bit early & so gave a third vaccine.

    Really if the new owner can't afford the injection they should not have got a puppy. Some puppies go to new homes not having any injections


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭boomerang


    So that's perfect then Lemlin. If the pup had the 7-in-1 at six or seven weeks, she just gets a second 7-in-1 four weeks later so as the lady said, only one vaccination outstanding. For peace of mind I would have your friend phone the vets who gave the first vax, to confirm this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    boomerang wrote: »
    So that's perfect then Lemlin. If the pup had the 7-in-1 at six or seven weeks, she just gets a second 7-in-1 four weeks later so as the lady said, only one vaccination outstanding. For peace of mind I would have your friend phone the vets who gave the first vax, to confirm this.

    But that's the point. The vet she is using have told her they want to start the course again as the pup should not have been given the 7-in1 before 8 weeks old.

    Knine wrote: »
    That would be the vets fault though if he vaccinated too early, not the breeders fault. My vet decided he had done ours a bit early & so gave a third vaccine.

    Really if the new owner can't afford the injection they should not have got a puppy. Some puppies go to new homes not having any injections

    I can't comment on whether or not she can afford it as I have said.

    I think the annoyance is that she was given a contract stating the pup should be given one more vaccination and she is now being told it needs two.

    Re your point that some puppies go to homes not having injections, given that the pup was bought through a reputable breeder would you not expect the pup to have vaccinations? I know I would.

    Incidentally, the breeder has advised the lady to change her vet. He is of the opinion that seven weeks is fine for the vaccination.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,062 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    My vet had me start again because they didn't stock the brand of vaccine the breeder's vet used - I just paid it - wasn't the breeder's fault and I could have always driven over to that vets if I really wanted to save €40 but didn't bother. If only all vets bills were that low!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭boomerang


    As I said already, vets vary in their vaccination protocols. That's why I said tell her to phone the vet who gave the first vaccination. Jut because her own vet has a different vaccination protocol doesn't mean the breeder duped her.

    Seven weeks *is* fine for vaccination, depending on the protocol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭boomerang




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 Redlimo


    Google the data sheet for the the brand of vaccine used. For what it's worth, "Vanguard 7", a 7-in-1 vaccine, is licenced in the UK at least for use from 7 weeks of age.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    boomerang wrote: »

    One of the vet practices local to me is vaccinting pups at the 7-8 week mark too, specifically so that owners can get their pups out and about socialising during the age bracket that a pup has to be socialised within.
    Can't blame them for that... The later vaccination age favoured in recent years has almost certainly contributed to behavioural problems associated with insufficient socialisation of the puppy prior to 12 weeks of age.


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