verenti insight 04 ...opinions?

Fingers Mcginty

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/verenti-insight-04-sora-2014/

folks, i'm in the market for a nice racer as i'm fed up of being left in the dust when i'm on the mountain bike on the road with the lads. My budget would be 1k. What think ye of this verenti?

WillyFXP

Fingers Mcginty wrote: »

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/verenti-insight-04-sora-2014/

folks, i'm in the market for a nice racer as i'm fed up of being left in the dust when i'm on the mountain bike on the road with the lads. My budget would be 1k. What think ye of this verenti?

It's fairly heavy for a carbon frame. If I was spending 1k on a new bike I'd go for a better spec'd alloy bike over a cheap carbon one. Rose have the new 105 5800 11 speed groupset on this for €999
http://www.rosebikes.com/bike/rose-pro-sl-2000-2015/aid:745547

bitethebullet

WillyFXP wrote: »

It's fairly heavy for a carbon frame. If I was spending 1k on a new bike I'd go for a better spec'd alloy bike over a cheap carbon one. Rose have the new 105 5800 11 speed groupset on this for €999
http://www.rosebikes.com/bike/rose-pro-sl-2000-2015/aid:745547

Looks nice

Fingers Mcginty

the rose takes 4-5 weeks delivery...i need a bike sooner than that.

route66

Fingers Mcginty wrote: »

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/verenti-insight-04-sora-2014/

folks, i'm in the market for a nice racer as i'm fed up of being left in the dust when i'm on the mountain bike on the road with the lads. My budget would be 1k. What think ye of this verenti?

I'd say this would be a great bike to start on. From what I understand, Wiggle rebadge Ridley bikes to Verenti and Ridley is a very well respected make.

At a guess, I'd say the bike you selected in Wiggle is a derivative of the Ridley Orion: link

bogmanfan

If you're not using the bike to work scheme, then go second-hand. Your budget should get you something very nice.

torydiver

route66 wrote: »

I'd say this would be a great bike to start on. From what I understand, Wiggle rebadge Ridley bikes to Verenti and Ridley is a very well respected make.

At a guess, I'd say the bike you selected in Wiggle is a derivative of the Ridley Orion: link

I believe it's the same mould as used by Ridley, but not the same carbon layup as used by Ridley on their bikes,
Same shape frame as Ridley, but not the same ride characteristics due to the difference in the carbon and layup..

route66

torydiver wrote: »

I believe it's the same mould as used by Ridley, but not the same carbon layup as used by Ridley on their bikes,
Same shape frame as Ridley, but not the same ride characteristics due to the difference in the carbon and layup..

I based my reply on what I have read in various reviews and NOT read in Wiggle replies to questions posed about various Verenti bikes. The brand of the finishing kit is the same as Ridley own brand (4za) so we're not just looking at a factory "borrowing" a mould as speculated for other makes - e.g. Ribble.

From what I understand Ridley make the Verenti bikes. This does of course not mean they are identical in every respect - nor does it mean they are inferior.

I'd be interested to hear otherwise - do you have any references?

JohnBee

I agree with what the others said. At that price, going carbon will chew up a huge proportion of the budget which probably accounts for the bottom of the line sora group set. In addition, carbon vs alu aint gonna make a huge difference I think.

For that price you should be able to get an alu frame with tiagra or 105 shimano groupset which will probably serve you better in the long term. While carbon might be stiffer and lighter, remember that for the most part what makes you faster is your legs and not the bike!

WillyFXP

torydiver wrote: »

I believe it's the same mould as used by Ridley, but not the same carbon layup as used by Ridley on their bikes,
Same shape frame as Ridley, but not the same ride characteristics due to the difference in the carbon and layup..

Same frame, different paint. http://www.bibshortsorbust.com/2013/03/open-mold.html

Fingers Mcginty

bogmanfan wrote: »

If you're not using the bike to work scheme, then go second-hand. Your budget should get you something very nice.

I'm new to this cycling Craic and done want to get done.

route66

Fingers Mcginty wrote: »

I'm new to this cycling Craic and done want to get done.

You won't go wrong with the Verenti.

Alternatives include:
Chainreaction's Vitus Venon Road Bike (link) is also on budget and get's a decent writeup here: link

Elsewhere in Wiggle:
Felt's Z95 is an excellent starter road bike in Aluminum for €624: link
More or less the same Felt bike - called the Z7 - in Carbon for €1057: link
Or Felt's Z85 in Aluminum with a better spec for €913: link

I'd look at the Verenti and the Z7.

But then if you trade Carbon for Aluminum, you could get a better spec with the Z85. Or how about spending just an extra grand or so and ...

Fingers Mcginty

route66 wrote: »

You won't go wrong with the Verenti.

Alternatives include:
Chainreaction's Vitus Venon Road Bike (link) is also on budget and get's a decent writeup here: link

Elsewhere in Wiggle:
Felt's Z95 is an excellent starter road bike in Aluminum for €624: link
More or less the same Felt bike - called the Z7 - in Carbon for €1057: link
Or Felt's Z85 in Aluminum with a better spec for €913: link

I'd look at the Verenti and the Z7.

But then if you trade Carbon for Aluminum, you could get a better spec with the Z85. Or how about spending just an extra grand or so and ...

I like that f95 .... Might go for that

route66

Fingers Mcginty wrote: »

I like that f95 .... Might go for that

With Felt, the F's differ from the Z's in that they are more racing oriented; the Z's are a little more upright and more comfortable for longer distances. The link I gave was for the Z.

Fingers Mcginty

sorry meant the z95

Fingers Mcginty

felt arrived yesterday. Easy enough build.
Here she is ...obviously saddle height needs adjusting.
Just one minor issue. The quick release on the brake levers at rims when engaged still didn't allow enough clearance for wheel installation. I had to disconnect the brake cables at the shoes. Is this normal?

route66

Fingers Mcginty wrote: »

felt arrived yesterday. Easy enough build.
Here she is ...obviously saddle height needs adjusting.
Just one minor issue. The quick release on the brake levers at rims when engaged still didn't allow enough clearance for wheel installation. I had to disconnect the brake cables at the shoes. Is this normal?

Thanks to
Nice bike - Well wear!

You should be able to remove the wheels once you have slackened off the quick release. Tyres too wide or brakes adjusted too close to rim? Ask Wiggle to comment?