Subbing in Dublin with a part-time job

brónaim cád??

I'm hoping to move to Dublin within the next few weeks. It'd be great to be able to live off subbing work but I know this will be too unreliable.

I was just wondering how do others manage to do this? What other jobs do people do in the week to pay the rent and so on? There doesn't seem to be many part time jobs advertised online, maybe they don't need to advertise. Mot of the jobs I come across are career jobs in IT and so on.

I'm guessing I need about €500 a week in Dublin to live decently.

Moody_mona

I don't clear €500 a week. I'm going into my fourth year teaching. You would make more subbing though, but it couldn't be relied upon.

Can I ask why you're not interested in getting a temporary post? Rather than relying on subbing? There's a full north before going back to school, plenty of time for jobs to be advertised and interviewed.

Would you consider grinds to supplement income? What kind of part time job were you interested in?

Are you specifically tied to Dublin? Can you move around, or commute to further afield?

brónaim cád??

I am. Very interested but I don't seem to be having any luck with the applications, I've only heard back from one to say I was unsuccessful. I can't rely on the subbing which is why I'll need to find a part time job.

I'm primary so I'm not sure if there is a market for that. Any job really, something easy and stress free. If things are going the way they are I'll be applying to McDonald's. I've just moved back from London to move to Dublin. I've been abroad for a while and have been looking forward to living in Dublin for years so I won't consider anywhere else.

byhookorbycrook

Have you registered with text-a-sub? Clearing €500 a week on subbing will be difficult, especially in the first term.

brónaim cád??

Yes I have. I meant in total with what ever other work I have. I'm just guessing I needed €500, certainly not under €400. My rent will probably €500 a month, plus travel and all the other bills. Yes, up to Halloween will be the quietest I guess but there's nothing I can do about that. I'm also trying to learn Irish in the mean time which is probably holding back my applications too.

Moody_mona

Do you drive? You could still commute to areas around and outside Dublin, in fact the traffic heading away from the city can be handy!

Don't act defeatist about a temporary, or even a permanent, position By September. Keep applying, tailoring your applications to each individual school as much as you can.

There could still be demand for primary grinds, although to be honest I'm not sure. If you speak languages you could probably try to do oral prep for Leaving Cert kids.

In general, I'd say subbing would be quiet in September, at least I think. People less likely to be sick maybe, not as run down since they're just back from a break? Completely my own opinion, no back up for this!

If you were to get a part time job in something completely unrelated, make sure it won't impact on possible teaching sub days etc, so something maybe in the evenings?

Moody_mona

brónaim cád?? wrote: »

I'm also trying to learn Irish in the mean time which is probably holding back my applications too.

This is a huge disadvantage.

Maybe try focusing on resource or learning support jobs, where Irish is not a requirement.

Not having Irish will hold back your subbing opportunities as well I would say.

brónaim cád??

I do, but I don't have a car and funds are very tight atm. It's frustrating applying as you know some of the jobs have been filled in house. I have been tailoring each one and spend the guts of an hour on each one which is why it is so disheartening.

I know, I was thinking this too, it's just difficult. I wonder what others in this situation do to fund themselves. I need something flexible or maybe bar work. I'm not sure, just trying to think of possible solutions.

brónaim cád??

If I worked as an SNA for a while do you know what I'd get. There are lots of points of the pay scale and I'm not sure where I would be.

Moody_mona

I'm not 100% sure, I'm not sure teaching service would count, you may be on the first point.

It would give you a good opportunity to improve your Irish at home. But you'd need to assure the school that you weren't going to up and leave if a teaching position came up else where.

Millem

I am a secondary teacher not primary so please excuse my ignorance but are you registered with the teaching council? Can you still be qualified with no irish? And by no irish do you mean you are going to have to sit the LC? What I am trying to get at is can you even sub?

brónaim cád??

Yes I am registered with the TC. Obviously I speak some Irish but I am certainly not fluent, I would be probably be fine up to 3rd / 4th Class. I trained in the UK and have a set number of years to pass the SCG / OCG, which I can work whilst doing so. Hundreds of Irish people train in the UK every year. Thank you for your concern though.

Moody_mona

brónaim cád?? wrote: »

I would be probably be fine up to 3rd / 4th Class.

Children do not deserve to be taught be someone a few pages ahead of them. This sentence would suggest you really don't value the language.

RealJohn

brónaim cád?? wrote: »

Obviously I speak some Irish but I am certainly not fluent, I would be probably be fine up to 3rd / 4th Class.

If you describe yourself as "certainly not fluent" then you certainly shouldn't be fine up to third or forth class. Your students deserve better. Spend your time (and money) getting your Irish to a reasonable standard and it will probably stand to you in terms of both applications and interviews.

brónaim cád??

It's a working progress which I am investing time and money in. I think this is going off topic now as it is not actually what I asked.

Millem

Moody_mona wrote: »

Children do not deserve to be taught be someone a few pages ahead of them.

I absolutely agree with this as a parent and a teacher.

Moody_mona

brónaim cád?? wrote: »

It's a working progress which I am investing time and money in. I think this is going off topic now as it is not actually what I asked.

You never mentioned your lack of Irish in your OP, and I really think it's relevant. I think your priority now should be getting your Irish exams.

seavill

I would presume that's because lack of Irish has nothing to do with the question which they asked which was about part time work outside of teaching in Dublin - this has certainly gone off topic which the OP tried to bring back unsuccessfully obviously. They didn't ask about teaching jobs so their level of Irish is irrelevant to their question and the current discussion is unhelpful to their thread

Millem

seavill wrote: »

I would presume that's because lack of Irish has nothing to do with the question which they asked which was about part time work outside of teaching in Dublin - this has certainly gone off topic which the OP tried to bring back unsuccessfully obviously. They didn't ask about teaching jobs so their level of Irish is irrelevant to their question and the current discussion is unhelpful to their thread

Seavill if the OPs level of irish is as described would they even be successful in getting any subbing? Another poster suggesting focusing on getting the irish sorted and I presume find another job to sustain themselves if they want to live in dublin.

seavill

You missed my point, which really we are again going off topic, the Op didn't ask for a run down on their chances of getting subbing or a dissection of their ability to teach etc. they asked about non teaching jobs which to help out the OP I think should be respected and stick to the question that they asked.

RealJohn

I think Millem is on topic here. The OP's command of Irish is relevant because it could seriously hinder their ability to get subbing so aiming for a part time job might be a waste of time. The OP might be better off getting a full time job doing something they are able for and spend a year on learning Irish properly. It might even look good to be able to say next year that they recognised a weakness and spent a year bringing it up to code.

bearhugs

A friend was in your situation a few years ago, back from the UK after doing primary teaching with no Irish qualification and looking for a job. What helped him was actually going into schools with his CV. On paper he wouldn't have had much of a chance, and jobs were (are!) very scarce. However, a school he had called to one day rang him the next asking him to come in, he got a week or two, and actually ended up with a full time job there. I think he's there three or four years now. So my advice would be to get in and ask if the principal has a minute, meet them and make a good impression. Not all will have time or will want to meet you but keep at it!

implausible

bearhugs wrote: »

A friend was in your situation a few years ago, back from the UK after doing primary teaching with no Irish qualification and looking for a job. What helped him was actually going into schools with his CV. On paper he wouldn't have had much of a chance, and jobs were (are!) very scarce. However, a school he had called to one day rang him the next asking him to come in, he got a week or two, and actually ended up with a full time job there. I think he's there three or four years now. So my advice would be to get in and ask if the principal has a minute, meet them and make a good impression. Not all will have time or will want to meet you but keep at it!

+1 to this. Sometimes you can be lucky with timing, especially if you call in mid-term when there are likely to be vacancies and you emphasise that you are available at short notice. Principals don't always have the time to go through text-a-sub.

On the Irish, it is hugely relevant to getting a job. Your username is proof that you need to work on it, it should be a high priority as it will be a large disadvantage to you in getting employment.

Have you experience with special needs and behavioural difficulties? I ask as special schools and ASD units, for example, often have trouble getting subs especially at short notice. They could be worth a CV drop.

Part-time work-wise, the likes of McDonalds could be your best bet - flexible hours so you can be free during the day and ok pay.