top civil servant in dept of justice "offers" to step aside!

monkey8

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0728/633604-dept-of-justice-shatter-purcell/

external review finds issues regarding a closed and secretive culture as well as significant leadership and management problems.

John Purcell is the top civil servant in the department who they are holding responsible for this.

And what are the consequences for him?
Has he been fired? Hell no!
Has he had a pay cut? no way!

He "offers" to step aside and is redeployed to be equally incompetent in another civil service area.

What a cosy job with no stress of any consequences!!!

Judgement Day

Same ****e, different day. :rolleyes:

My name is URL

There'll be a few on here that will defend the fact that he can 'offer' to be reassigned rather than face losing his job as a public servant.

Joke of a country when it comes to dealing with incompetence or corruption in the public sector.

discus

Get a grip, lads. That guy has ****ing balls. If it's the same guy I'm thinking of, he was kidnapped and shot my Martin Cahill aka The General a few years ago... All for doing his job in the Social Welfare. He's regarded as doing a great job in DoJ, despite his awful life changing experiences. As a country we should be applauding him and his departure, not ranting on boards like a bunch of ignorant chimps.

discus

monkey8 wrote: »

What a cosy job with no stress of any consequences!!!

As I have posted above, you have no idea of what consequence means. This man cut off a criminals social welfare payments a few years ago, when he worked in the Social Welfare. He signed the letter that was sent to The General - he was then kidnapped and shot twice. This man has a pair, and understands consequence.

monkey8

discus wrote: »

This man cut off a criminals social welfare payments a few years ago, when he worked in the Social Welfare..

That was his job, right?

and that should grant him immunity for any future failures!!!

Minister for Justice: Who is responsible for this mess?

External auditors: Brian Purcell

Discus: Ah but he wrote a letter to the general a few years ago. He's a good man.

Minister for Justice: Ah sure we'll leave him be so.

Son Of A Vidic

My name is URL wrote: »

There'll be a few on here that will defend the fact that he can 'offer' to be reassigned rather than face losing his job as a public servant.

Joke of a country when it comes to dealing with incompetence or corruption in the public sector.

Ain't that the truth. Didn't the gobshyte who lost/miscounted €2/3 billion a few years ago, end up getting a pat on the back and a nice job in Europe. Clowns.

SEPT 23 1989

Having balls was telling a heavily armed paramilitary group to go fcuk themselves

discus

monkey8 wrote: »

Minister for Justice: Ah sure we'll leave him be so.

This isn't communist Russia. We don't send men to the gulag for performance failure, or shoot generals for failing to keep their men fit. We pick who we think is the best man for the job, and then give them limited resources and restrain their budgets, making sure that the status quo remains. Hardly his fault.

And yes, sacrifice should be recognised.

dixiefly

discus wrote: »

Get a grip, lads. That guy has ****ing balls. If it's the same guy I'm thinking of, he was kidnapped and shot my Martin Cahill aka The General a few years ago... All for doing his job in the Social Welfare. He's regarded as doing a great job in DoJ, despite his awful life changing experiences. As a country we should be applauding him and his departure, not ranting on boards like a bunch of ignorant chimps.

Agreed, as usual we have the brave internet warriors here many of whom can't function without slagging off.

Another joke is the FF Justice spokesman Niall Collins who was going on about accountability and bad management in the department in recent years. Pot, kettle and black springs to mind.

monkey8

discus wrote: »

This isn't communist Russia. We don't send men to the gulag for performance failure, or shoot generals for failing to keep their men fit.

I'm not calling for him to be murdered.

I'm looking failure to be dealt with the same as it is in the private sector with demotion and sackings.

monkey8

discus wrote: »

And yes, sacrifice should be recognised.

Recognisied with what? Complete immunity???

Hootanany

He should be sacked end off if you cant perform your duty, chocolate teapot springs to mind.

Arthur Beesley

Public sector jobs for life. No doubt he would still be eligible for increments if he wasn't at the top of the scale.

We will never learn

monkey8

dixiefly wrote: »

Agreed, as usual we have the brave internet warriors here many of whom can't function without slagging off.

Did you not just slag off Niall Collins yourself just there?!

dixiefly wrote: »

Another joke is the FF Justice spokesman Niall Collins who was going on about accountability and bad management in the department in recent years. Pot, kettle and black springs to mind.

Asides from your opinion on Niall Collins, I take it you don't agree that anyone in the public service should be held accountable for their actions then?

discus

monkey8 wrote: »

I'm not calling for him to be murdered.

I'm looking failure to be dealt with the same as it is in the private sector with demotion and sackings.

Failure in the private sector rarely treats people as such. Sure look at all those effective banks, insurance companies and other financial insitutions over the years... Did their companies publicly disgrace them? Did they fuck, pensions and top ups all round. And you probably complained about that too. Do you just like seeing people berated publicly for their failings?

Judgement Day

I'd forgotten that it was Brian Purcell that cut off Martin Cahill's dole - I suppose he deserves above average treatment especially since the shi1 is still to hit the fan over his visit to the Commissioner.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/profile-l-brian-purcell-30130433.html

the_syco

Would I be wrong to assume that a couple of managers took early retirement, and Purcell was left holding the ball? Seems when the managers left, no-one of authority replaced them, and the place went to hell.

monkey8

discus wrote: »

Failure in the private sector rarely treats people as such.

Failure in the public sector NEVER treats people as such.

Banks and insurances companies make up a small percentage of the total private sector.

If I fu*k up in my job I could be sacked and I have no problem with that because I agree that I should be sacked.

Cantremember

monkey8 wrote: »

I'm not calling for him to be murdered.

I'm looking failure to be dealt with the same as it is in the private sector with demotion and sackings.

**** off. You mean by passing the buck to the public to bail them out.