Great Britain's National Anthem's.

clappyhappy

Watching the commonwealth games now and an English girl won gold for swimming. For the medal presentation they played Jerusalem. I know God Save The Queen (GSTQ) is the anthem for GB teams in Olympics etc?

What I am wondering is why Jerusalem was played for the English gold win, and in rugby, football matches etc GSTQ is played. Scotland have Flower Of Scotland, Wales have Land Of My Fathers, so what is the English national anthem and what is the Northern Irish anthem. When I looked it up it said GSTQ but also Derry Air was mentioned. Any definitive answers?

dd972

I'll help you out first with the authentic ''Northern Irish'' anthem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGpsv_3QGbg

UpCork

Any other Commonwealth games before they played Land of Hope and Glory so I, too was surprised when I saw it wasn't that any more - can't seem to find out why

Hotfail.com

clappyhappy wrote: »

Watching the commonwealth games now and an English girl won gold for swimming. For the medal presentation they played Jerusalem. I know God Save The Queen (GSTQ) is the anthem for GB teams in Olympics etc?

What I am wondering is why Jerusalem was played for the English gold win, and in rugby, football matches etc GSTQ is played. Scotland have Flower Of Scotland, Wales have Land Of My Fathers, so what is the English national anthem and what is the Northern Irish anthem. When I looked it up it said GSTQ but also Derry Air was mentioned. Any definitive answers?

Wiki says England has none officially.

Awkward Badger

According to Wiki England doesn't have an official national anthem. Just different songs used at different events.

Anthems currently used at sporting events[edit]
At present, the following anthems are used:

Multi-sport events[edit]

At the Commonwealth Games, Team England uses "Jerusalem" as the victory anthem from 2010 onwards. The Commonwealth Games Council for England conducted a poll of members of the public which decided the anthem for the 2010 Commonwealth Games. The three options were "God Save the Queen", "Jerusalem" and "Land of Hope and Glory". "Jerusalem" was the clear winner with 52% of the vote; "Land of Hope and Glory" received 32% and "God Save the Queen" 12%.[1]


Single sport events[edit]

At international football matches, England uses "God Save the Queen" as the national anthem.
At international rugby union matches, England uses "God Save the Queen" as the national anthem whilst "Jerusalem" or "Land of Hope and Glory" is the anthem played prior to kick off.
At international rugby league matches, England uses "God Save the Queen" as the national anthem.
At international Test cricket matches, England has, since 2003, used "Jerusalem" as its entrance anthem.[2]
At international lacrosse matches, the England Men's team uses "God Save The Queen" and the Women's team uses "Land of Hope and Glory" as the national anthems.
At international darts matches, England uses "Land of Hope and Glory" as the national anthem.

Lapin

dd972 wrote: »

I'll help you out first with the authentic ''Northern Irish'' anthem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGpsv_3QGbg

"My Homeland".

What a load of sentimental ould drivel.

The One Doctor

I think you should be asking people who live in Great Britain this question. We're Irish. Not British.

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller

The One Doctor wrote: »

I think you should be asking people who live in Great Britain this question. We're Irish. Not British.

Well, we live in the British Isles and so, geographically speaking at least, we are British.

















































I'm joking.

Sulla Felix

The One Doctor wrote: »

I think you should be asking people who live in Great Britain this question. We're Irish. Not British.

I don't know about you, but I know lots of things about places outside of the 26 counties. Maybe remove the blinkers and broaden your mind.

SEPT 23 1989

Jerusalem is a banging tune when it's played live at the Proms

Guy:Incognito

Sulla Felix wrote: »

I don't know about you, but I know lots of things about places outside of the 26 counties. Maybe remove the blinkers and broaden your mind.

What manner of sorcery is this? Witch!

wazky

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Jerusalem is a banging tune when it's played live at the Proms

God Save the Queen is a right goer once you get into it.

clappyhappy

The One Doctor wrote: »

I think you should be asking people who live in Great Britain this question. We're Irish. Not British.

My OH is Scottish and we both were curious about this. Didn't realise only questions about Ireland could be asked on boards!

alias no.9

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

Well, we live in the British Isles and so, geographically speaking at least, we are British.





I'm joking.

A Dub in Glasgo

Your original question referred to Northern Ireland which is not in GB but in the UK therefore your thread title should read

United Kingdom's National Anthem's.

mickydoomsux

They should just use the 1977 smash hit "Rockin' All Over The World" by Status Quo.

I'd stand up for that and i'm not even British.

LordSutch

alias no.9 wrote: »

Oh yes we do, but only in the geographical sense.

Jerusalem or Land of Hope & Glory would do, but GSTQ should not be the sole preserve of the England Rugby/Football teams.

Sod all those boring posh knobs songs. I want vindaloo as the anthem.

Na na nah, na nah nah

Dyr

I thought "here we go- here we go" was the english national anthem

clappyhappy

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Your original question referred to Northern Ireland which is not in GB but in the UK therefore your thread title should read

United Kingdom's National Anthem's.

I knew I would get them mixed up!! I just went with the whole "team GB" thing for the Olympics where athletes declare to represent Ireland or "team GB". Thank you.

alias no.9

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Sod all those boring posh knobs songs. I want vindaloo as the anthem.

Na na nah, na nah nah

All I can hear is

Sealions on a shirt
Huge payout still missing
30 years of hurt
never stopped me singing
England's going home
They're going home

Richard

clappyhappy wrote: »

When I looked it up it said GSTQ but also Derry Air was mentioned. Any definitive answers?

The UK doesn't have an official National Anthem but GSTQ is obviously its national anthem. When the four parts of the UK compete separately, again nothing official (especially given that they are just parts of a nation state), but England and NI use GSTQ in most occasions. NI doesn't compete as a separate entity in most sports however, but (association) football is the one that spring sot mind.

For the Commonwealth Games, I think that given many of the teams have the Queen as their head of state (and some like New Zealand also use GSTQ in an official capacity) England and NI use something more specific. So England use Jerusalem (they did use Land of Hope and Glory in the past) and NI use Danny Boy/Londonderry Air.

There was this memorable occasion in 1994 where I think the tape broke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwvRqEjjSF0

BrensBenz

mickydoomsux wrote: »

They should just use the 1977 smash hit "Rockin' All Over The World" by Status Quo.

I'd stand up for that and i'm not even British.

Yep! Me too! But even in my advanced years, I doubt if I could just stand still, with hand on heart, listening to Quo.

An anthem "should" rouse peoples spirits, not their "we're better than you" nationalism or make them reach for the remote.

I've never actually understood this fanantical pride in the place where your mother happened to be at the end of our gestation period but it does seem that ALL of the anthems we in the "British Isles" are plagued with are dirges, belonging to a distant past. Other than performance rights, what would be wrong with using already published and popular music?

"Uhh Flewer o' Scutlund" is a crime against music, imitating the bagpipes ancient and obvious inability to play a full octave;
Our "Amhran" has a pleasant enough tune but those lyrics have had their day, even if they're only understood by a tiny minority;
And while it might make life less uncomfortable for Norn Arsh rugby players wearing the green jersey, we can do far better than "Ireland's Call";
Few sounds can beat a Welsh choir but "Land of My Fathers"??? Come on!
And ALL of the anthems used by Ingerland conjur up images of Victorian imperialism or religious superiority over others.

And if I haven't offended enough people yet, I really don't see the point of national anthems or other regional dirges taking up so much time at sporting events. The athletes are wearing their national colours - an honour, privilege and reward for talent and effort - and if "my colours" are standing on the winner's podium, I don't need to hear a dreary anthem to feel proud of that athlete's achievements. Also, the other athletes and their countries are not automatically "inferior" - they qualified but just didn't have enough on the day. For athletes and spectators, having to endure other peoples anthems must be worse than being forced to view their holiday photos.

"You didn't win your event because you come from a particular country but because you have more talent and worked harder (or took more drugs) than your competitors".

Rant over. I'm off to listen to Planxty on my eight track.

citytillidie

To be honest every time I hear land of hope and glory I just picture Macho Man Randy Savage

osarusan

BrensBenz wrote: »

Few sounds can beat a Welsh choir but "Land of My Fathers"??? Come on!

Sound up for best effect:

clappyhappy

BrensBenz wrote: »

Yep! Me too! But even in my advanced years, I doubt if I could just stand still, with hand on heart, listening to Quo.

An anthem "should" rouse peoples spirits, not their "we're better than you" nationalism or make them reach for the remote.

I've never actually understood this fanantical pride in the place where your mother happened to be at the end of our gestation period but it does seem that ALL of the anthems we in the "British Isles" are plagued with are dirges, belonging to a distant past. Other than performance rights, what would be wrong with using already published and popular music?

"Uhh Flewer o' Scutlund" is a crime against music, imitating the bagpipes ancient and obvious inability to play a full octave;
Our "Amhran" has a pleasant enough tune but those lyrics have had their day, even if they're only understood by a tiny minority;
And while it might make life less uncomfortable for Norn Arsh rugby players wearing the green jersey, we can do far better than "Ireland's Call";
Few sounds can beat a Welsh choir but "Land of My Fathers"??? Come on!
And ALL of the anthems used by Ingerland conjur up images of Victorian imperialism or religious superiority over others.

And if I haven't offended enough people yet, I really don't see the point of national anthems or other regional dirges taking up so much time at sporting events. The athletes are wearing their national colours - an honour, privilege and reward for talent and effort - and if "my colours" are standing on the winner's podium, I don't need to hear a dreary anthem to feel proud of that athlete's achievements. Also, the other athletes and their countries are not automatically "inferior" - they qualified but just didn't have enough on the day. For athletes and spectators, having to endure other peoples anthems must be worse than being forced to view their holiday photos.

"You didn't win your event because you come from a particular country but because you have more talent and worked harder (or took more drugs) than your competitors".

Rant over. I'm off to listen to Planxty on my eight track.

Great post, agree with you on must of it. I do love Flower Of Scotland though.

foggy_lad

wazky wrote: »

God Save the Queen is a right goer once you get into it.

So was the queen apparently:D

BrensBenz

clappyhappy wrote: »

I do love Flower Of Scotland though.

Sorry for delay - wasn't sure if that was statement or sarcasm!

Deciding on "statement", I did some research and I'm delighted to inform you that your condition is actually treatable. Since liking "Flewer uh Scutlund" is anti-social and humiliating for the patient, you (or a suitably delegated carer) can put your name onto an eardrum transplant waiting list and then hope to God that the donor isn't either Scottish or a bagpipes perv.

Also, because of the tiny number of sufferers of this affliction and of the benefit to society in eliminating this illness, the treatment is free, anywhere in the EU.

Terms and Conditions Apply.
You're welcome.

Fratton Fred

Land of my Fathers sung by 70,000 Welsh rugby fans makes my hairs stand on end. Not as much as Cwm Rhondda though.

Dublin Red Devil

Well Wales and Scotland have their own anthems so there's no reason Northern Ireland shouldn't have one as well. I wonder why they haven't had one?

Anyone know why?

StormWarrior

I'm English and AFAIK the English national anthem is God save the queen. However, every English person I know hates this song and wants a different national anthem. Lots of the English really like Jerusalem. Personally I think vindaloo was a great suggestion. The English sporting teams would sing it with a lot more enthusiasm. Most of them barely open their mouths during gstq. Personally I have no desire to sing songs of worship to a satanic, baby-eating reptile.

A Dub in Glasgo

^^^^^

'Frequently, when an anthem is needed for one of the constituent countries of the United Kingdom – at an international sporting event, for instance – an alternative song is used:

England generally use "God Save The Queen", but "Jerusalem", "Rule, Britannia!" and "Land of Hope and Glory" have also been used.[53][54]

At international test cricket matches, England have, since 2004, used "Jerusalem" as the anthem.[55]
At international rugby league matches, England use "God Save The Queen" and also "Jerusalem".[56]
At international rugby union and football matches, England use "God Save the Queen".[57]
At the Commonwealth Games, Team England use "Jerusalem" as their victory anthem.[58]'

Fratton Fred

It should be Jerusalem across the board.

clappyhappy

BrensBenz wrote: »

Sorry for delay - wasn't sure if that was statement or sarcasm!

Deciding on "statement", I did some research and I'm delighted to inform you that your condition is actually treatable. Since liking "Flewer uh Scutlund" is anti-social and humiliating for the patient, you (or a suitably delegated carer) can put your name onto an eardrum transplant waiting list and then hope to God that the donor isn't either Scottish or a bagpipes perv.

Also, because of the tiny number of sufferers of this affliction and of the benefit to society in eliminating this illness, the treatment is free, anywhere in the EU.

Terms and Conditions Apply.
You're welcome.

It's wasn't sarcasm, but the truth, although after reading that, maybe the OH has me brainwashed into liking it as they are Scottish :-0

BrensBenz

clappyhappy wrote: »

It's wasn't sarcasm, but the truth, although after reading that, maybe the OH has me brainwashed into liking it as they are Scottish :-0

Yes, people, and especially kids, pick up all sorts of ailments from their surroundings and perhaps your OH was still contagious, a "carrier", when you met.
However, not to worry because even the most aggressive liking of "Flewer uh Scutlund" can be controlled, though not cured, by therapy and support groups.

It is important not to "blame" your OH for this - the other qualities of the Scots far outweigh the tiny minority of Scots who can tolerate "Flewer". In truth, only the loolah who wrote it could possible "like" Flewer so your OH, and the handful of other victims, cruelly bombarded by powerful Flewer germs and unable to fight them off, are entirely innocent of any deliberate wrongdoing.

Of course, avoid bagpipes at all times. Not only is their "seven and seven eighths note octave" excruciating to listen to but it could spark a Flewer recurrence at any time, leading to more councelling and medical interventions.

iPods (other brands are available) were invented to be a practical, daily defense against bagpipes, as too were industrial earplugs.

Help is available - you are not alone. Contact HSE or PM me for further helpful tips and advice.

topper75

BrensBenz wrote: »

"Uhh Flewer o' Scutlund" is a crime against music, imitating the bagpipes ancient and obvious inability to play a full octave;

Octave is quite full Sir. Just flattened the seventh. Mixyolidian like! If you are a celt, the hairs will rise on the back of your neck and you may get a speck of dust in your eye or want to kill someone. THAT Sir, is music.

Philo Beddoe

BrensBenz wrote: »

Yes, people, and especially kids, pick up all sorts of ailments from their surroundings and perhaps your OH was still contagious, a "carrier", when you met.
However, not to worry because even the most aggressive liking of "Flewer uh Scutlund" can be controlled, though not cured, by therapy and support groups.

It is important not to "blame" your OH for this - the other qualities of the Scots far outweigh the tiny minority of Scots who can tolerate "Flewer". In truth, only the loolah who wrote it could possible "like" Flewer so your OH, and the handful of other victims, cruelly bombarded by powerful Flewer germs and unable to fight them off, are entirely innocent of any deliberate wrongdoing.

Of course, avoid bagpipes at all times. Not only is their "seven and seven eighths note octave" excruciating to listen to but it could spark a Flewer recurrence at any time, leading to more councelling and medical interventions.

iPods (other brands are available) were invented to be a practical, daily defense against bagpipes, as too were industrial earplugs.

Help is available - you are not alone. Contact HSE or PM me for further helpful tips and advice.

I can't help wondering if this ongoing schtick is a condition.

Mint Sauce

Have wondered this about the Natioanl Anthems my self, when watching both The 6 Nations Rugby and the Commenwealth games. Land of my Fathers, and Flower of Scotland really makes the hairs stand on end when sang by a full Mullenium Stadium or Murrayfeild. Would love to hear Jerusalem for both the Rugby and Football for England, or any other sporting or formal event. Plus it gives the contry more identify, rather than sing or standing to the one of the nation.

StormWarrior wrote: »

I'm English and AFAIK the English national anthem is God save the queen. However, every English person I know hates this song and wants a different national anthem. Lots of the English really like Jerusalem. Personally I think vindaloo was a great suggestion. The English sporting teams would sing it with a lot more enthusiasm. Most of them barely open their mouths during gstq. Personally I have no desire to sing songs of worship to a satanic, baby-eating reptile.

Same here, I love Jerusalem and will gladly stand and sing proud if its played. For GSTQ I feel I'm just standing to show my repects.

Badly Drunk Boy

I'm not mad about anyone's national anthem. I reckon before sporting events, the MC (or whoever) should announce the name of the country followed by this played very loudly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2dhD9zR6hk&t=0m29s

Philo Beddoe

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

I'm not mad about anyone's national anthem. I reckon before sporting events, the MC (or whoever) should announce the name of the country followed by this played very loudly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2dhD9zR6hk&t=0m29s

Instead of the minute's silence (or applause) they have to commemorate some recently deceased person, they should just play that.