Tesco Ballina -- planning permission aproved

monument

Heard today that the Tesco Ballina planning permission has been approved.

It's on an expanded site which includes their current store, the car park and some other lands behind it. It will have an underground car park.

It might have taken longer to get to this stage and I have not seen all the detail yet, but well done to the town's council officials for pushing Tesco back to a centre-of-town location.

TopTec

Any clues as to where they are going to situate themselves during the rebuild?

TT

Dudda

Looked through some of the planners report on the mayo County Council website. http://www.mayococo.ie/PlanSearch/mcc4/PlanningViewer/displayafile.asp?filenum=14262&la=1

4 times the size and over 9 meters tall. Its a very big development but to be fair the council have conditioned a lot to help. eg addressing neighbour concerns of overlooking, limiting the hours deliveries can happen, limiting construction hours, controlling noise and dust, etc.


Lidi objected to the development I see too.

Oldtree

Any one who made a submission could appeal the decision to An Bord Pleanala and delay the development (if permission was finally granted) for up to 2 years. It went through MCC very quick.

The conditions are standard and would need an enforcement complaint to MCC as they don't police developments.

They are more centrally located in Ballinrobe, which is handy imo.

Avns1s

monument wrote: »

well done to the town's council officials for pushing Tesco back to a centre-of-town location.

This times 1,000,000.

If this had been the strategy for the past 25 or more years with the multiples, we mightn't have the same amount of dead town centres needing massive refurbishment expenditures which still don't solve the problem of few businesses, low footfall and dereliction of premises on the main streets.

Castlebar is a classic example of rubbish planning decisions dating back to when Dunnes moves from Bridge St to Market Sq. and pretty much everything in that general area of the town since then!! Did we learn - no!

The same mistakes continued to have been made, look at Tesco in Swinford, Claremorris etc. Look at the town centres in these towns. Ruined and heading downhill in terms of business and the way they look.

Well done to the planners and officials in Ballina. This strategy makes total sense and might just help to keep other businesses and the Ballina town centre alive!

irishgeo

Avns1s wrote: »

This times 1,000,000.

If this had been the strategy for the past 25 or more years with the multiples, we mightn't have the same amount of dead town centres needing massive refurbishment expenditures which still don't solve the problem of few businesses, low footfall and dereliction of premises on the main streets.

Castlebar is a classic example of rubbish planning decisions dating back to when Dunnes moves from Bridge St to Market Sq. and pretty much everything in that general area of the town since then!! Did we learn - no!

The same mistakes continued to have been made, look at Tesco in Swinford, Claremorris etc. Look at the town centres in these towns. Ruined and heading downhill in terms of business and the way they look.

Well done to the planners and officials in Ballina. This strategy makes total sense and might just help to keep other businesses and the Ballina town centre alive!

its the same officials making the decisions is it not?

Avns1s

irishgeo wrote: »

its the same officials making the decisions is it not?

Possibly but perhaps not. I'm not aware of the specific changes in the planning office though I know there have been changes. I do know the senior officials in the Ballina Area who presumably would have had a significant input to this decision and its conditions, and they have a bit of cop on and common sense, which is often lacked!!

monument

irishgeo wrote: »

its the same officials making the decisions is it not?

Between all the towns listed? No. Different areas.

More so before the town councils were abolished. But there's still different people covering different area.

A lot of the credit is due to the former Ballina town council officials and town council policy which differed from other towns.

Avns1s

monument wrote: »

Between all the towns listed? No. Different areas.

More so before the town councils were abolished. But there's still different people covering different area.

A lot of the credit is due to the former Ballina town council officials and town council policy which differed from other towns.

Agree with most of this but the senior planners will have a big input into this type of decision, and I don't think they have changed. This IMO points to a critical input from the Ballina Area senior officials.

finisklin

Don't forget that Tesco had originally planned on moving to the show grounds in the Stephenities. This ultimately fell through due to the lease with the show committee and the council remained quiet during the negotiations. Indeed at the time some councillors were quite vocal on the move.

BTW, the senior councils officials move between Ballina and Castlebar every few years. These people's commitment is only to going with the political flow without any rhyme or reason. This is to either FGs or FFs beat depending on who is in government.

That's why the development plan gathers dust. There is no commitment to it.

monument

Only after getting to look at the drawings now...

EDIT: The worst of the one-way system expansion was retracted as part of the planning conditions!

Captain Slow IRL

monument wrote: »

......The worst of the one-way system expansion was retracted as part of the planning conditions!

What do you mean?

monument

Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

What do you mean?

The yet-to-be named "New Street" (which takes in the current car park between AIB and Pennies) is to be one-way in the direction of Pearse Street. This has been approved and will likely go ahead if the project.

The following has not been approved: Market Road, between Tone Street and the New Street, was to be turned into a new section of one-way street. The junction between New Street and Market Road was to have been similar to the junctions at the bridges along the Moy.

Again, not approved: A mini version of that type of junction was to have been used between the New Street and Pearse Street. This would have given the traffic exiting New Street priority over the traffic traveling along Pearse Street.

Crazy stuff and thankfully not approved.

calendarqueen

monument wrote: »

The yet-to-be named "New Street" (which takes in the current car park between AIB and Pennies) is to be one-way in the direction of Pearse Street. This has been approved and will likely go ahead if the project.

The following has not been approved: Market Road, between Tone Street and the New Street, was to be turned into a new section of one-way street. The junction between New Street and Market Road was to have been similar to the junctions at the bridges along the Moy.

Again, not approved: A mini version of that type of junction was to have been used between the New Street and Pearse Street. This would have given the traffic exiting New Street priority over the traffic traveling along Pearse Street.

Crazy stuff and thankfully not approved.

I'm still none the wiser. Is there a map/pic available?