Forgot to put car off the road!

phobia2011 · 23-07-2014 12:36PM #1

for over 2 months i have had my car sitting in the drive, im trying to sell but didnt want to rush into buy a new car so just picked up a run around. the tax is really high on car so just said id leave it expire along with insurance as i wa selling it.

i plan on trading in the car with a garage. problem is i havent declared it as off the road, its also not insured.

only now have i had time to get around to looking for a new car!!

where do i stand with regard to the tax, will i have to back tax the car now before i can sell it??:eek:

LawlessBoy · 23-07-2014 12:37PM

As far as i know when the ownership changes on the car all the arrears are written off

dgt · 23-07-2014 12:41PM

Sell it, arrears gone for next owner and yourself. Be grand

Alanstrainor · 23-07-2014 12:48PM

LawlessBoy wrote: »

As far as i know when the ownership changes on the car all the arrears are written off

This is correct. Once the ownership changes all arrears disappear.

phobia2011 · 23-07-2014 01:06PM

thanks lads, heart was racing there for awhile, hopefully i'll find the right car soon.

CiniO · 23-07-2014 01:48PM

LawlessBoy wrote: »

As far as i know when the ownership changes on the car all the arrears are written off

To be more precise, they are not exactly written off, but just never existed.
Arrears become due only when owner who had untaxed, undeclared car intends to tax it again.
At the moment, OP is not due any arrears, so nothing will change after he sells the car.

Bio Mech · 23-07-2014 03:40PM

CiniO wrote: »

To be more precise, they are not exactly written off, but just never existed.
Arrears become due only when owner who had untaxed, undeclared car intends to tax it again.
At the moment, OP is not due any arrears, so nothing will change after he sells the car.

Thank god for that precision. Otherwise all the above posts would still be correct.

mazdoc · 16-01-2015 10:28PM

Hi everyone,

The engine in my car blew about three months ago. I never declared it off the road, I wasn't aware I had too.
I'm getting tax renewals in the post, it states I have to pay up.
Is what you've said in previous post still stand in 2015....

colm_mcm · 16-01-2015 10:30PM

Do you ever intend taxing it in the future?

mazdoc · 16-01-2015 10:38PM

no.. someone wants to buy it.. if they do will I still have to pay arrears?

colm_mcm · 16-01-2015 10:39PM

mazdoc wrote: »

no.. someone wants to buy it.. if they do will I still have to pay arrears?

No, you're grand.

mazdoc · 16-01-2015 10:40PM

perfect, so this isn't just a myth.. Phew!!

colm_mcm · 16-01-2015 10:43PM

I sold a car there that was off the road untaxed for 2.5 years at 3.0 tax rate. That's about €3k

mazdoc · 16-01-2015 10:47PM

Do/Did you have to pay it?

colm_mcm · 16-01-2015 10:52PM

Nope.

mazdoc · 16-01-2015 10:54PM

excellent.... that's great news!!

unkel · 16-01-2015 11:32PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

I sold a car there that was off the road untaxed for 2.5 years at 3.0 tax rate. That's about €3k

My dearly departed car was nearly 5.5 years off the road when I sold it last year. I didn't spend €10k in motor tax that I could not afford

Best of luck to the new owner. In a bit over a year the car will only cost €56 per year to tax

dunderrow · 21-01-2015 09:55AM

I traded in my car to a dealer in November with 2 weeks tax left on it at the time - I am now getting final reminder letters about unpaid road tax - should I let them know I traded the car in or just ignore the letters?

slimjimmc · 21-01-2015 08:25PM

dunderrow wrote: »

I traded in my car to a dealer in November with 2 weeks tax left on it at the time - I am now getting final reminder letters about unpaid road tax - should I let them know I traded the car in or just ignore the letters?

I'd let them know the dealer has it just in case it's not registered as being with a trader and you start getting other notices (fpns, toll charges).
Did you complete Form RF105 when you sold it and did you send it to Shannon?
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/motoring_1/buying_or_selling_a_vehicle/change_of_ownership.html

dunderrow · 22-01-2015 09:25AM

Hi Slimjim - I didn't complete any paperwork for my old car, I wasn't aware I had to when trading in, I just gave them the logbook as I had always done in past trade-ins. Is it my responsibility or the garages to ensure this is done?

slimjimmc · 22-01-2015 03:03PM

dunderrow wrote: »

Hi Slimjim - I didn't complete any paperwork for my old car, I wasn't aware I had to when trading in, I just gave them the logbook as I had always done in past trade-ins. Is it my responsibility or the garages to ensure this is done?

Your responsibility. From the RF105 Notes linked in the Citizen's Information page (I've bolded the relevant bits)

A. When to use this form
This form should be used when any person or body has sold, traded-in or otherwise disposed of a vehicle registered since 1st January 1993 to a Motor Dealer. The completed form must be sent to the Department of the Environment, Heritage and Local Government, Shannon Town Centre, Co. Clare.
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D. What to do next
When the Owner disposing of the vehicle and the Motor Dealer acquiring the vehicle have completed the form:
• The OWNER DISPOSING OF THE VEHICLE should IMMEDIATELY forward this form to the Department of the Environment, Heritage and Local Government, Shannon Town Centre, Co. Clare.
• THE OWNER DISPOSING OF THE VEHICLE where already licensed (taxed) will have been issued with a Certificate RF101 and in such cases the Certificate (with change of ownership section not completed) should be surrendered to the Motor Dealer.

Forgot to put car off the road!

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