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Why is the county so important?

  • 23-07-2014 10:46am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭


    This English colonial imposition seems to be far more highly regarded as a mark of ones very being than in England where its just where you happen to be.

    It seems to be impossible to have a conversation without some country-based joshing or even antagonism. Public figures are linked to a given county with enormous pride, as if it confers something on everyone else. No introduction on tv or radio can be completed without a lame reference to same.

    I've noticed AH is prone to this with "Which county is the best/worst/most etc" type threads.

    Are you defined by your county or is just oneupmanship wankery?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭legin500


    county
    1. a.any of the administrative or geographic subdivisions of certain states, esp any of the major units into which England and Wales are or have been divided for purposes of local government

    2. ( NZ ) an electoral division in a rural area

    3. obsolete the lands under the jurisdiction of a count or earl



    country
    1. a territory distinguished by its people, culture, language, geography, etc

    2. an area of land distinguished by its political autonomy; state


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    county or country?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 347 ✭✭neamhspleachi


    No, I personally am not defined by my county, but some are.

    People by nature are tribal, some more so than others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Nope, and I never judge anyone based on what county they're from, except obviously people from Tipperary who I've found to be universally the most ignorant bunch of ****tards imaginable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Buzz Killington the third


    Are you defined by your county or is just oneupmanship wankery?

    If you don't have a D reg then your car is worth less! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,611 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    I think maybe its to do with the size of our population and how we live, do we have as many people living in rural communities as live in cities and large towns? In England it would be done on towns, people would say which town they are from, and would have rivalry with other towns, rather than counties.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    GAA probably plays a big part. England has cricket!

    GAA just isn't cricket.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    "Everyone considered him the coward of the administrative prefecture" doesn't have the same ring to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    I blame the GAA, only for them and half the thicko's in this country wouldn't know what county they were from.

    An Post have a lot to answer for too, making all the thicko's put their county on their address so the thick postman will know where the letters are to go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    CJC999 wrote: »
    I blame the GAA, only for them and half the thicko's in this country wouldn't know what county they were from.

    An Post have a lot to answer for too, making all the thicko's put their county on their address so the thick postman will know where the letters are to go.

    ???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,730 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    Their based on earldoms, unfortunately Desmond got split between Cork and Kerry as it was too big. Pity we'd have been unstoppable...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    My county is better than yours.

    I'll baat ya with a hurl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    CJC999 wrote: »
    I blame the GAA, only for them and half the thicko's in this country wouldn't know what county they were from.

    Ironically, that's the kind of thicko generalisation those alleged thickos would make.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,709 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    County rhymes with bounty. Gonna go to the shop and buy some coconutty goodness now.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    With no counties there would be no COUNTY FINALS !!!!!!! so a lot of bog goblins would have no purpose in life.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    The county system is not English. Counties are based on ancient Irish divisions of land, based on tribe / clan and geography. In their day, they represented a family and its wealth and status in Irish society, and as such the importance of the county has continued to this day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Provinces are strong as well and that definitely isn't an English construct, Meath used to be one.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    CJC999 wrote: »
    I blame the GAA, only for them and half the thicko's in this country wouldn't know what county they were from.

    An Post have a lot to answer for too, making all the thicko's put their county on their address so the thick postman will know where the letters are to go.
    With no counties there would be no COUNTY FINALS !!!!!!! so a lot of bog goblins would have no purpose in life.

    Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool then open your mouth and remove all doubt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    It sells jerseys and flags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,434 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    I'm from West Wicklow....Part of being from West Wicklow is the feeling that you are in absolutely no way connected to Wicklow at all...I Wish they would Carve it up between Carlow, Wexford and Kildare....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    CJC999 wrote: »
    I blame the GAA, only for them and half the thicko's in this country wouldn't know what county they were from.

    An Post have a lot to answer for too, making all the thicko's put their county on their address so the thick postman will know where the letters are to go.
    Go out for a walk, its a nice day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I'm from West Wicklow....Part of being from West Wicklow is the feeling that you are in absolutely no way connected to Wicklow at all...I Wish they would Carve it up between Carlow, Wexford and Kildare....

    Never heard of Wicklow winning anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,434 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    kneemos wrote: »
    Never heard of Wicklow winning anything.
    How did you deduce the concept of "winning" from my post?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    How did you deduce the concept of "winning" from my post?

    Didn't.Just taking the piss,any excuse.
    True though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    If you don't have a D reg then your car is worth less! :D

    I'm made so. A D reg Land Rover Defender. Woohoo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    I'm from West Wicklow....Part of being from West Wicklow is the feeling that you are in absolutely no way connected to Wicklow at all...I Wish they would Carve it up between Carlow, Wexford and Kildare....

    A bit like West Cork. West Cork starts in Blarney!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Gyalist


    K-9 wrote: »
    GAA probably plays a big part. England has cricket!

    GAA just isn't cricket.

    Domestic cricket in England is organised by counties. Today for example, Kent are playing Surrey and Sussex are playing Warwickshire.

    What is amusing to a blow-in like me is the way GAA writers in the newpapers always tend to pad their articles by using the nicknames of the counties e.g. "The men from The Banner County completely outplayed The Orchard County" or "The Breffni men are through to the county finals."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,037 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    CJC999 wrote: »
    An Post have a lot to answer for too, making all the thicko's put their county on their address so the thick postman will know where the letters are to go.

    Can you tell me where Fynah is?

    No?

    That's why there's a county address on the letter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭stoneill


    I know a bloke who is always counting, loves to count, he real county.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    I think we can all agree about hating Tipperary.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Gyalist wrote: »
    "The Breffni men are through to the county finals."

    Yeh-heeeeeewww! Go on the lads!!!!!!!!!!

    DE COUNTY FINAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Donnielighto


    CJC999 wrote: »
    I blame the GAA, only for them and half the thicko's in this country wouldn't know what county they were from.

    An Post have a lot to answer for too, making all the thicko's put their county on their address so the thick postman will know where the letters are to go.

    A letter addressed to "Bollix Kerry" reached pat spillane it's intended recipient.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Donnielighto


    I think we can all agree about hating Tipperary.


    I like tipp women :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    The county is so important because you don't encounter too many outsiders


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    f**kin' royal rebel county

    f*ckin' banner county

    the parish boy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    I'm not defined by my county. I seldom leave it.

    I'm defined by my club and parish. So I am.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Ironically, that's the kind of thicko generalisation those alleged thickos would make.

    FFS this is AH!! Get a sense of humour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    I couldn't care less about any of this "county" nonsense, but then I'm from Kildare, and we know we're great.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Nope, and I never judge anyone based on what county they're from, except obviously people from Tipperary who I've found to be universally the most ignorant bunch of ****tards imaginable.
    I think we can all agree about hating Tipperary.

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    The Premier county has given so much! You two are forgiven, we all feel envious at times :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    The Premier county has given so much! You two are forgiven, we all feel envious at times :)

    I think we're all just mad at the injustice of having Tipp South and Tipp North number plate division. The day that ends, and both sides unite, will be our 'Berlin Wall coming down' moment


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    I'm from Roscommon, but I live in Kerry. Kerry people love their county, because it has two things going for it. Beautiful scenery and good footballers. Neither of which they perceive Roscommon to have (they'd have a point).

    I've often been told "oh, I don't think I've ever been to Roscommon", as if to confirm that it is a county of no consequence. Yeah, well I was never in feckin' Kerry either before I had too be here for work. Recently, a colleague of mine spent a weekend up there and she seemed genuinely surprised that it wasn't a complete kip devoid of development and overcome with a slurry-esque aroma.

    I suppose the funny part of all of this is that the border with Co Galway is all of 5 miles away but if I said I was from Galway, people would be more inclined to say "aw yeah, Galway is lovely!" despite East Galway being a ****hole of its own. People have preconceived notions about each county.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭wow sierra


    It's all the GAAs fault :) Or it's all thanks to the GAA - whichever way you want to put it. Apparently Irish people didn't have the same county identity and loyalty until the GAA organised itself on a County basis, back in the day. A college historian told me that and well it makes sense to me.

    Sure if you didn't have counties you wouldn't have county finals or county jerseys - county colours night in coppers would cease to exist ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    wow sierra wrote: »
    Apparently Irish people didn't have the same county identity and loyalty until the GAA organised itself on a County basis, back in the day. A college historian told me that and well it makes sense to me.

    Bloody egghead, in his ivory tower. What would he know of the Land, or cutting turf???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭Mountainlad




    John Mullane loves his County...all that matters.


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