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Should Ireland take in Israeli refugees if Israel is destroyed?

  • 22-07-2014 11:18pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭


    Tel Aviv airport has been closed effectively cutting off much of Israel by air from the outside world due to Hamas rocket fire.

    Hamas have made no secret that they are opposed to any peace and want to destroy Israel and kill all the Jews.

    In the past Saladin invaded the Christian states in what are now Lebanon and Israel and Palestine and put the European Christian peasant settlers to the sword or enslaved them while the Crusader nobility bought their way back to Europe.

    In 1967 and 1973 the Arabs tried to invade and destroy Israel with the intention to massacre the Jewish Israelis.

    So if an Arab army in the future rises up and overwhelms the Israelis and invades Israel and begins massacring the Jews, will Ireland take in Jewish refugees?

    Or would we point and laugh as the Jews got their "just desserts"?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭Sheldons Brain


    Yes, we should take all the software developers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    No let them go somewhere they are wanted, Plenty of space in that part of the world for them and they would hate the weather here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    Erm, you may be trying out reverse psychology, but honestly, stick to paper applications. David=/=Goliath.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭h2005


    Sure the Israelis all have Irish passports anyways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭OttoPilot


    The FAA has only banned them for 24 hours, so after tomorrow there should be no problem.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 6 An N Nuther 55


    David=/=Goliath.
    I think he does, actually


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭Schwiiing


    If an Arab army attacked Israel the US/UK would be along in a flash to put a stop to it. Israel is there to stay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    I think he does, actually

    Why do you persist, seriously?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    Azwaldo55 wrote: »

    Hamas have made no secret that they are opposed to any peace and want to destroy Israel and kill all the Jews.

    I'm confused, you keep swapping backwards and forwards between Israeli and Jewish. That's like asking if Ireland floods, will France host all the Catholics.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Given the lack of interest by the state and progressive groups in the destruction of the historical Christian communities across large swathes of the Middle East, it is highly unlikely that there would be much interest - especially unlikely given the professionalism of the IDF.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭Azwaldo55


    OttoPilot wrote: »
    The FAA has only banned them for 24 hours, so after tomorrow there should be no problem.

    How so? Hamas are still firing rockets aren't they?
    In future - the next time things kick off - they will presumably concentrate on the airport to prevent flights in and out wouldn't they?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Ah yeah sure why not, would be a little awkward if they start their old tricks again and blockade Cork and start a few rounds of shelling each day. Actually no I'd be ok with that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Buzz Killington the third


    They can have Donegal. If they want to invade other land they can go east and see how it works out for them!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Yes. Depriving people of a "country" they can call home and be safe in is wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    Tel Aviv airport has been closed effectively cutting off much of Israel by air

    Jeez, imagine that. By and by, where can I book a flight to Gaza airport?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    i was thinking it earlier today, that if all the jewish people migrated to ireland after WW2, then how long would it have taken for ireland to be united and have a real air force and iron dome?

    granted, all the indigenous irish people would probably be living in achill too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    I see what you're trying to do, OP, and it's very silly.

    Personally, I think refugees should be accomodated where ever it's possible.

    Israel is not going to be destroyed though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭ChunkyLover54


    Azwaldo55 wrote: »

    So if an Arab army in the future rises up and overwhelms the Israelis and invades Israel and begins massacring the Jews, will Ireland take in Jewish refugees?

    Well we couldn't be arsed taking in any Jewish refugees during the Holocaust, so probably not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    i was thinking it earlier today, that if all the jewish people migrated to ireland after WW2, then how long would it have taken for ireland to be united and have a real air force and iron dome?

    granted, all the indigenous irish people would probably be living in achill too

    Maybe RTE would finally produce some decent comedy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭Sound of Silence


    I'm not a betting man, but with things being the way they are, I'm willing to say that the Sun is more likely to set on Gaza long before Israel ever ever gets rolled over.

    For people who live in an open air prison, the Palestinians don't seem to be half as consumed with apocalyptic notions as the Israelis...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭votecounts


    Fck no because the israelis are such a peaceful people:rolleyes:, they'd never murder children or innocent families.
    America defends their muderous ways, let them house them as they have a record of accomadating sc*m


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Buzz Killington the third


    RayM wrote: »
    Maybe RTE would finally produce some decent comedy.

    Like Seinfeld? Cos if that's what you mean then I have a completely different view on what comedy is.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Azwaldo55 wrote: »

    So if an Arab army in the future rises up and overwhelms the Israelis and invades Israel and begins massacring the Jews, will Ireland take in Jewish refugees?

    Probably wont be possible unfortunately. http://www.carolmoore.net/nuclearwar/israelithreats.html
    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Two Israel supporters are frequently quoted for their explicit support of the Samson Option. Martin Van Creveld, a professor of military history at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, has been quoted as saying: "Most European capitals are targets for our air force....We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under."[38][/SIZE][/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]In 2002 the Los Angeles Times, published an opinion piece by Louisiana State University professor David Perlmutter in which he wrote: "What would serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a Nuclear Winter. Or invite all those tut-tutting European statesmen and peace activists to join us in the ovens? For the first time in history, a people facing extermination while the world either cackles or looks away--unlike the Armenians, Tibetans, World War II European Jews or Rwandans--have the power to destroy the world. The ultimate justice?"[39][/SIZE][/FONT]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    Probably wont be possible unfortunately. http://www.carolmoore.net/nuclearwar/israelithreats.html


    Brown; in your quest in trying to find the woods from the trees, you have forgotten what a tree looks like in the first place.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    How so? Hamas are still firing rockets aren't they?
    In future - the next time things kick off - they will presumably concentrate on the airport to prevent flights in and out wouldn't they?
    Look on the bright side. If Israeli airports are shutdown then there will be a drop in state-sanctioned racism.
    http://electronicintifada.net/content/suspected-citizens-racial-profiling-against-arab-passengers-israeli-airports-and-airlines


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭Azwaldo55


    Look on the bright side. If Israeli airports are shutdown then there will be a drop in state-sanctioned racism.
    http://electronicintifada.net/content/suspected-citizens-racial-profiling-against-arab-passengers-israeli-airports-and-airlines

    So you actually welcome the rocketing of Israel and you hope for Israel's destruction do you?


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    So you actually welcome the rocketing of Israel and you hope for Israel's destruction do you?
    No. I am anti-racism and hope for peace. Which is what brings me into conflict with Israel which is anti-peace and racist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    So you actually welcome the rocketing of Israel and you hope for Israel's destruction do you?

    Someone was asking about a straw man the other day, here ye go


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    They can have Donegal. If they want to invade other land they can go east and see how it works out for them!

    Hey now. Screw you. Donegal is its own state. We've been fighting the invading Brits coming from N.Ireland for the past 900 years.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    Timmyctc wrote: »
    Hey now. Screw you. Donegal is its own state. We've been fighting the invading Brits coming from N.Ireland for the past 900 years.

    I was just thinking about Donegal the other day. Lovely scenery, but not a lot of great land I'd say. The islands are lovely though. What's your favourite of the little islands/peninsulas? I think mine might be Cruit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    No. I am anti-racism and hope for peace. Which is what brings me into conflict with Israel which is anti-peace and racist.

    Your > 4000 posts in the Conspiracy Forum; most of them obsessed with what people of Jewish origin are/have/will do belies that. You continue to find 'facts' for yourself in articles that the vast majority of people dismiss as weirdo nonsense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    Thoie wrote: »
    I was just thinking about Donegal the other day. Lovely scenery, but not a lot of great land I'd say. The islands are lovely though. What's your favourite of the little islands/peninsulas? I think mine might be Cruit.

    Well I'm from up Inishowen direction. I'd say the nicest place in the world is Dunree beach/area up there.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Your > 4000 posts in the Conspiracy Forum; most of them obsessed with what people of Jewish origin are/have/will do belies that. You continue to find 'facts' for yourself in articles that the vast majority of people dismiss as weirdo nonsense.
    Weirdo nonsense? :D Earlier today I watched a video which showed an injured and defenseless Palestinian lying on the ground being executed by an IDF sniper. Apartheid isn't nonsense. Butchering women, children, the elderly and the disabled isn't nonsense. Intentionally placing them on starvation diets to make them suffer isn't nonsense. Land theft and home destruction isn't nonsense. Torturing women and children isn't nonsense. Laying siege to an entire population for decades isn't nonsense.

    What is nonsense is the very idea that any "Arab" army would come out of nowhere and start massacring Jews. Israel is tied at the hip with the brutal Military coup government in Egypt and unofficially with their Wahabbi brothers in Saudi Arabia


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    So you actually welcome the rocketing of Israel and you hope for Israel's destruction do you?

    Not that anyone is I think but no one should ever wish for the destruction of Israel. and not just because of the obvious reason that's it's a horrible thing to think of destroying a people. but because if it ever looks remotely like happening they will take the rest of us with them. it troubles me that they are a nuclear power it really does for all sorts of reasons.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    Too many threads started on this. After Hours is not Politics.


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