Calve card came before sending in ear sample

onyerbikepat

Is this normal? I havent tagged the calf yet, but the card came in the post today.I thought this wasn't allowed. Calf is playing hide and seek with me. Searched 3 times for him when I wanted to tag him. Gas ! Think he might be going into a neighbours back garden.

moy83

onyerbikepat wrote: »

Is this normal? I havent tagged the calf yet, but the card came in the post today.I thought this wasn't allowed. Calf is playing hide and seek with me. Searched 3 times for him when I wanted to tag him. Gas ! Think he might be going into a neighbours back garden.

Ya thats happens alright , I think its just if you were looking for a movement cert that you wont get it until the result is back first

simx

moy83 wrote: »

Ya thats happens alright , I think its just if you were looking for a movement cert that you wont get it until the result is back first

Spot on, although I'd say your meant to have him tagged before registering ha

Farrell

simx wrote: »

Spot on, although I'd say your meant to have him tagged before registering ha

Do you?
I know you must tag & register inside 21 days & denuded inside 14, but do you have to register after you tag, there would be benefits if doing more than 1 & double checked calf/cow to card

Parishlad

Farrell wrote: »

Do you?
I know you must tag & register inside 21 days & denuded inside 14, but do you have to register after you tag, there would be benefits if doing more than 1 & double checked calf/cow to card

Yep, supposed to tag first and then register. I'm sure lots of lads would wait to tag and debud at the same time and register then.

Kovu

Should the calf be registered before the sample is taken?
This is not necessary. Because the sample is taken at tagging, you will be tagging (which is the beginning of the registration process) and sampling the calf at the same time. However, you should subsequently avoid any delay in registering the calves as results will not be reported back to you until registration is completed.
There was a delay in registering the calf but a sample was submitted for BVD testing. When will the result come back?
ICBF is only able to issue results when the calf has been registered. Therefore, it is essential to register your calves promptly.

Here you go- Register the calf either just before or as soon as possible after tagging & sending sample.

blue5000

OP you know you are tight for time now;)

td5man

Calf registered as soon as born via phone/agrinet , mightn't be tagged for a week cards would be back long before samples

A cow called Daisy

In opposite scenario heard of lads sent away sample day calf was born but didn't reguster him for a week or so. When registering but down date of birth for date after sample received in lab.
Told massive amount of dodo hit fan

moy83

A cow called Daisy wrote: »

In opposite scenario heard of lads sent away sample day calf was born but didn't reguster him for a week or so. When registering but down date of birth for date after sample received in lab.
Told massive amount of dodo hit fan

I did that aswell by mistake , just got a letter telling me to get it sorted . I brought the letter into the DVO and she amended it there and then . Not too much hassle

sandydan

moy83 wrote: »

I did that aswell by mistake , just got a letter telling me to get it sorted . I brought the letter into the DVO and she amended it there and then . Not too much hassle

easiest way to avoid that mistake is type off note in laptop,save and print for lab then refer to copy when registering i find otherwise:eek:

blue5000

While we are on the subject whats the longest anyone has kept these samples in the fridge??

moy83

blue5000 wrote: »

While we are on the subject whats the longest anyone has kept these samples in the fridge??

6 weeks ! I put it in the fridge because I thought the next one was going to calve within a week or two but my midwife guess was way out and she didnt calve for 4 wks . Forgot about the first one then and didnt tag the second calf for another two weeks . Anyhow there wasn't a bother with it

Charliebull

blue5000 wrote: »

While we are on the subject whats the longest anyone has kept these samples in the fridge??

fridge:eek: they never go in the fridge, fired on the seat till next days post, i left one cooking on the dash of the van for 3 days before posting, it came back ok:D

ecc

moy83 wrote: »

6 weeks ! I put it in the fridge because I thought the next one was going to calve within a week or two but my midwife guess was way out and she didnt calve for 4 wks . Forgot about the first one then and didnt tag the second calf for another two weeks . Anyhow there wasn't a bother with it

K

moy83

Charliebull wrote: »

fridge:eek: they never go in the fridge, fired on the seat till next days post, i left one cooking on the dash of the van for 3 days before posting, it came back ok:D

I thought thats where they were meant to be kept until posting ? Anything left on the seat of my jeep doesn't end up well !

Charliebull

moy83 wrote: »

I thought thats where they were meant to be kept until posting ? Anything left on the seat of my jeep doesn't end up well !

they are, i keep forgetting about them

blue5000

I wonder do they test them at all, anyone willing to put a lump of snot in a sample bottle and send it off?:eek:

moy83

blue5000 wrote: »

I wonder do they test them at all, anyone willing to put a lump of snot in a sample bottle and send it off?:eek:

Id be scooby dubious about it but I'm not going to tag my snot to find out and I'm just as happy the way they are going
They would seriously want to set up a free post or reduced cost stamp for the sample . It breaks my heart to pay €1.15 postage for one sample . You would think with the amount of samples they are doing a year that they could at least get a good bulk price off An Post for the job

exercise is the antidote

How do you know if you need to order the conventional tags or the sample tags?!

J.O. Farmer

blue5000 wrote: »

I wonder do they test them at all, anyone willing to put a lump of snot in a sample bottle and send it off?:eek:

Never test yourself or what you eat. It's a general rule for labs. In this case what if the test came back a false positive.
There'd be lads looking for you to be taken away and shot.

sandydan

exercise is the antidote wrote: »

How do you know if you need to order the conventional tags or the sample tags?!

when you are running out of them.look into box:D ,sure you wont need to order sample tags unless you damage them, then holler quick

exercise is the antidote

sandydan wrote: »

when you are running out of them.look into box:D ,sure you wont need to order sample tags unless you damage them, then holler quick

Ha I meant does every calf have to get sampled? I'm not in any schemes, I only ordered my first tags the other day so I not sure to what way it all works.

sandydan

exercise is the antidote wrote: »

Ha I meant does every calf have to get sampled? I'm not in any schemes, I only ordered my first tags the other day so I not sure to what way it all works?!?

sure white tag is sampler, need new tagger for that,i presume you ordered it. other tag applied by old tagger. careful with box as sample is taken by needle of white tag,dont let it fall ,mind plastic case for sending off sample as it can fall out of plastic by tags or worse still i nearly threw it away,stick sample in fridge ,put into freezer bag and envelope and send note with it.giving details of herd , mob no etc.

exercise is the antidote

sandydan wrote: »

sure white tag is sampler, need new tagger for that,i presume you ordered it. other tag applied by old tagger. careful with box as sample is taken by needle of white tag,dont let it fall ,mind plastic case for sending off sample as it can fall out of plastic by tags or worse still i nearly threw it away,stick sample in fridge ,put into freezer bag and envelope and send note with it.giving details of herd , mob no etc.

I got the new tagger it does the conventional, sampler and electronic !

sandydan

exercise is the antidote wrote: »

I got the new tagger it does the conventional, sampler and electronic !

i find using old tagger for old tag handy, means you have both tags ready when handling calf all over in minute, less stress on man and beast. btw have you paid a lab in advance for sample testing