callaway apex

GreeBo

Anyone tried these irons?
Hit them in American golf today while looking for a driver...beautiful clubs.

Driver was 100mph, 14 launch and 1900 spin, 260 carry, 280 total...titleist 913 purchase might soon be on the way!.

John Divney

Hit the last model Hogan Apex and they were quality,

About time Callaway did something since they bought over Hogan .

dan_ep82

Some nice numbers,

Was it the apex or apex pro you hit?

Only had the pro versions in my hand and they looked gorgeous

GreeBo

Not sure, had some green on it if that's significant.
Lovely strikes from them, well from the 6 iron I hit!
Over 800 quid though!

dines08

ModEdit

ForSale thread with adverts.ie link please!

shaneon77

I have the apex pro. Lovely irons, longest hitting irons I've ever owned.

dan_ep82

shaneon77 wrote: »

I have the apex pro. Lovely irons, longest hitting irons I've ever owned.

Have you ever hit the AP2?

How do they compare?

They looked very blade like when I seen them so I think they'd be out of reach for me but I hit the Ap2's quite well and the Apex looks gorgeous

GreeBo

dan_ep82 wrote: »

Have you ever hit the AP2?

How do they compare?

They looked very blade like when I seen them so I think they'd be out of reach for me but I hit the Ap2's quite well and the Apex looks gorgeous

Looking down on them they are much more of a blade or MB than the AP 1 or 2's.

I was actually disappointed with the AP's, seem very chunky to me.

Russman

I've hit the Apex during my Forgeolf fitting, nice iron, arguably the nicest looking non Mizuno iron (it'd be a toss up between them and the Taylor Made CB). I think the lofts on them are jacked up though IIRC, so you'd need to watch your gaps.

Verrry expensive for what they are, an MP54 wannabe :D. I think Callaway need to knock €100 or €150 off the tag to make them competitive.

Launch 14deg and spin 1900 ?, I'd be buying a full set of whatever clubs gave you those numbers !!:D

Dr_Colossus

GreeBo wrote: »

I was actually disappointed with the AP's, seem very chunky to me.

Finally someone who agrees with my viewpoint. I know the AP's get great reviews and feedback and owners are very pleased with their purchases but aesthetically they never did anything for me.

dan_ep82

GreeBo wrote: »

Looking down on them they are much more of a blade or MB than the AP 1 or 2's.

I was actually disappointed with the AP's, seem very chunky to me.

Sounds like the pro version.

The ap1's have a very thick top line but the I found the AP2's quite slim. They're only slightly thicker in the top line than the mp58's which would be considered more of a players mb compared to the ap's

The apex pros have a very thin top line.

GreeBo

I'm coming from these so anything looks thick!

Whyner

GreeBo wrote: »

Anyone tried these irons?
Hit them in American golf today while looking for a driver...beautiful clubs.

Driver was 100mph, 14 launch and 1900 spin, 260 carry, 280 total...titleist 913 purchase might soon be on the way!.

You can get them custom fit on golfstoreeurope for E249

GreeBo

Whyner wrote: »

You can get them custom fit on golfstoreeurope for E249

The driver or the irons?

shaneon77

dan_ep82 wrote: »

Have you ever hit the AP2?

How do they compare?

They looked very blade like when I seen them so I think they'd be out of reach for me but I hit the Ap2's quite well and the Apex looks gorgeous

A couple of things.. I hit the original ap2's 4 or 5 years ago and loved them. have had 3 different fittings since and never got the same feel for them. The apex pros are somewhere between a cavityback and a MB. nice thin topline. They are nice to look down on BUT ....
mine already look about a year old. The satin chrome finish gets dated very quickly and the chatter is very noticable too. Its a disappointing feature and the lack of forgivness is punishing too. It took me over 2 months to get to grips with them as the distance between good and bad strikes is huge.
Right now I am extremely pleased with my purchase but ask me in a couple of months time when my swing has gone on holidays and the answer may differ.
They are quite expensive too. I have to admit I wasn't expecting the quote i got for them but my mind was made up by then already. Let the kids starve.

Whyner

GreeBo wrote: »

The driver or the irons?

Driver

Russman

The new 915 driver is either just out or due out around now, you should pick up bargains on a 913 shortly. I think I've already seen closeouts on one of the American websites for the 913, either TGW.com or Golfdiscount.com can't remember. Both are reputable though.

Are you considering new irons just for the sake of it (a good enough reason btw) or moving to a more forgiving head ?

GreeBo

Whyner wrote: »

Driver

sorry, there was supposed to be a ":)" in my last post

GreeBo

Russman wrote: »

The new 915 driver is either just out or due out around now, you should pick up bargains on a 913 shortly. I think I've already seen closeouts on one of the American websites for the 913, either TGW.com or Golfdiscount.com can't remember. Both are reputable though.

Are you considering new irons just for the sake of it (a good enough reason btw) or moving to a more forgiving head ?

Yeah the D913 is down to 240, Im expecting it to come down a fraction more when the D915 actually hits the shelves.

The RAC's are a beautiful club and when hit well are amazing...but a miss-hit is really painful, both physically and scoring wise.

I've only ever had 2 sets of irons, both second hand, so have decided to treat myself when I get back to single figures.

dan_ep82

shaneon77 wrote: »

A couple of things.. I hit the original ap2's 4 or 5 years ago and loved them. have had 3 different fittings since and never got the same feel for them. The apex pros are somewhere between a cavityback and a MB. nice thin topline. They are nice to look down on BUT ....
mine already look about a year old. The satin chrome finish gets dated very quickly and the chatter is very noticable too. Its a disappointing feature and the lack of forgivness is punishing too. It took me over 2 months to get to grips with them as the distance between good and bad strikes is huge.
Right now I am extremely pleased with my purchase but ask me in a couple of months time when my swing has gone on holidays and the answer may differ.
They are quite expensive too. I have to admit I wasn't expecting the quote i got for them but my mind was made up by then already. Let the kids starve.

I'm using the 08 AP2's but I've hit the 710 and 712 and found them to be similar enough that if I didn't look at the head I wouldn't know which was which.

So the Ap's are the more forgiving of the two? It's what I kind of expected, nice to hear confirmation though

GreeBo

GreeBo wrote: »

Yeah the D913 is down to 240, Im expecting it to come down a fraction more when the D915 actually hits the shelves.

The RAC's are a beautiful club and when hit well are amazing...but a miss-hit is really painful, both physically and scoring wise.

I've only ever had 2 sets of irons, both second hand, so have decided to treat myself when I get back to single figures.

One thing I will find it hard to get used to with more forgiving irons is not knowing if it was a great strike our not until it lands...I love knowing it was perfectly hit as soon as it leaves the club.
Used someone's TMs before and they just felt dead, even on great results.

Dr_Colossus

GreeBo wrote: »

One thing I will find it hard to get used to with more forgiving irons is not knowing if it was a great strike our not until it lands...I love knowing it was perfectly hit as soon as it leaves the club.
Used someone's TMs before and they just felt dead, even on great results.

Were those TM burners or similar? Some of their irons are awful shovels with deep thick sole plates similar to hybrids so can't imagine there would be any feel from them. Those TM RACs you have are a lovely club and if looking to change to something offering a bit more forgiveness would you consider a combo set like the TM or Titleist MBs in the short irons and MCs in the long irons? I have a TM combo set with the 2-4 iron in MC and the 5-PW in MB and very happy with them.

The Callaway Apex Pro irons based on pictures I've screen do look nice and a good compromise from the traditional MB/blade.

Tones69

Russman wrote: »

The new 915 driver is either just out or due out around now, you should pick up bargains on a 913 shortly. I think I've already seen closeouts on one of the American websites for the 913, either TGW.com or Golfdiscount.com can't remember. Both are reputable though.

Are you considering new irons just for the sake of it (a good enough reason btw) or moving to a more forgiving head ?

915 be available in november dude

PARlance

GreeBo wrote: »

One thing I will find it hard to get used to with more forgiving irons is not knowing if it was a great strike our not until it lands...I love knowing it was perfectly hit as soon as it leaves the club.
Used someone's TMs before and they just felt dead, even on great results.

I bought a second hand set of Mizuno mx 300's last winter but they only lasted a few months in the bag, I loved hitting them for the feel but as above, the bad shots also felt pretty damn good too and I wasn't gone on that.

I'm back using Titliest 735's (but have kept the Mx300 4i & 5i)

I know some might say its madness but I think playing with blades will help me in a long run.
I think they've forced me to make bigger improvements with my swing over a more forgiving set.
No real hiding place with the 735's.

Plus I just love the look of them and I even found the mx 300's a bit chunky. Sorry Mizzy heads

Russman

GreeBo wrote: »

One thing I will find it hard to get used to with more forgiving irons is not knowing if it was a great strike our not until it lands...I love knowing it was perfectly hit as soon as it leaves the club.
Used someone's TMs before and they just felt dead, even on great results.

No doubt some irons feel do awful, but really, you'll learn the different feel pretty quick. I had the same fear when I went from Mizuno TP9 blades to MX20 back in the day. I'd say it lasted about an hour, granted the MXs were forged so that helped, but there's something wrong if you don't know if you hit it out of the middle or not. It'll seem like legal cheating if you go to cavities, when the ball is on the green, who cares if you slightly mish1t it ?

Do take your time though, try as many as possible, from the real chunky stuff like G25 to the smaller heads like MP54. Your good shots will still be good but your bad ones won't be as bad (within reason). If you're right handed try JPX825 Pros, forged feel and pretty forgiving.

Russman

PARlance wrote: »

Sorry Mizzy heads

You should be !!


Blades in the long run..........? I've mixed feelings on that theory tbh. For a kid learning, I'd say definitely. I'm not sure that swing issues per se are the cause of a lot of slight mish1ts, you can still hit it a couple of grooves low with a good swing, but the cavity will help you out. I sometime think that the better you are, the more cavities can potentially help, as it's the slight off centre hits that the real benefit is felt IMO. I could be wrong.

PARlance

Russman wrote: »

You should be !!


Blades in the long run..........? I've mixed feelings on that theory tbh. For a kid learning, I'd say definitely. I'm not sure that swing issues per se are the cause of a lot of slight mish1ts, you can still hit it a couple of grooves low with a good swing, but the cavity will help you out. I sometime think that the better you are, the more cavities can potentially help, as it's the slight off centre hits that the real benefit is felt IMO. I could be wrong.

Well, I'm a big kid and I'm still learning

I can't really argue with what you're saying other than, in my head, it was/is a bigger challenge with the 735's and that has probably spurred me on to practice a lot more as a result. I like a challenge

I can see myself using a nice cavity iron in future but I'd like to have mastered the blades first. Much in line with what you're saying above, I think they'd be a big help to a really good swing.... At present I don't have that but I'm having to try harder to get there with these.
I don't know if I'm arguing or not... but it's prob off topic so I'll shut up

Russman

PARlance wrote: »

Well, I'm a big kid and I'm still learning

I can't really argue with what you're saying other than, in my head, it was/is a bigger challenge with the 735's and that has probably spurred me on to practice a lot more as a result. I like a challenge

I can see myself using a nice cavity iron in future but I'd like to have mastered the blades first. Much in line with what you're saying above, I think they'd be a big help to a really good swing.... At present I don't have that but I'm having to try harder to get there with these.
I don't know if I'm arguing or not... but it's prob off topic so I'll shut up

Oh I'm not arguing at all. Tbh I could think the opposite tomorrow (well, maybe). I'm actually chopping and changing back and forth between a set of oversize cavities and a set of MP irons at the moment, can't make up my mind !!

Anyway, back to Greebo's issues.......

GreeBo

Dr_Colossus wrote: »

Were those TM burners or similar? Some of their irons are awful shovels with deep thick sole plates similar to hybrids so can't imagine there would be any feel from them. Those TM RACs you have are a lovely club and if looking to change to something offering a bit more forgiveness would you consider a combo set like the TM or Titleist MBs in the short irons and MCs in the long irons? I have a TM combo set with the 2-4 iron in MC and the 5-PW in MB and very happy with them.

The Callaway Apex Pro irons based on pictures I've screen do look nice and a good compromise from the traditional MB/blade.

Yeah a friend burners...horrible!
I'm not mad about the mixed sets..Think I'd just prefer a more forgiving mb...but that may be a pipe dream.
I'm also not in the habit of spending hundreds on clubs so night just have to make do!
The Apex felt lovely, terrible that they wear quickly, other than some dings my racs still shine up lovely.
Though the face on the short irons gets pretty marked...thankfully in the middle :cool:

m r c

Greebo, don't spend any money until you at least try the mizuno mp54's. I play the mp 53 and love them.
One of the things that best about them imho is the fact that they are quite bladed looking at address esp in the long irons( I think the blade is too long in the wedge to mistake it for an mb)

They really come into their own in the mid to long irons, I'd be starting to become known as a decent long iron player and its due in no small part to the mizzies IMHO and the confidence I feel using them.

I remember seeing a new set on adverts lately of the 53's for around the 300e mark.

I've used on occasion the kind of clubs that you spoke of and they feel like blunt instruments in comparison.

Ill edit in the ad on adverts if I see it.

Typical lol

http://www.adverts.ie/irons/mizuno-mp-53-3-pw/4983527#comments

GreeBo

m r c wrote: »

Greebo, don't spend any money until you at least try the mizuno mp54's. I play the mp 53 and love them.
One of the things that best about them imho is the fact that they are quite bladed looking at address esp in the long irons( I think the blade is too long in the wedge to mistake it for an mb)

They really come into their own in the mid to long irons, I'd be starting to become known as a decent long iron player and its due in no small part to the mizzies IMHO and the confidence I feel using them.

I remember seeing a new set on adverts lately of the 53's for around the 300e mark.

I've used on occasion the kind of clubs that you spoke of and they feel like blunt instruments in comparison.

Ill edit in the ad on adverts if I see it.

Typical lol

http://www.adverts.ie/irons/mizuno-mp-53-3-pw/4983527#comments

Cheers for the link... a little late mind you

The sole looked VERY wide on them?

m r c

GreeBo wrote: »

Cheers for the link... a little late mind you

The sole looked VERY wide on them?

Oh no the sole isn't wide at all, far from.

If your tm mob was 1 for example and the Ping g15 was 10 let's say. The mizuno are 1.5-2
Very much in the "player" category. Actually the back edge is beveled some to take some width off.


I sound like a salesman here, I just have a set and love them is all.

Tones69

Lovely irons and far from wide on the sole or topline! Remember mizuno are 1* flatter in lie than most other brands so get that checked if ur used to play tm, titleist, ping etc etc

Russman

Tones69 wrote: »

Lovely irons and far from wide on the sole or topline! Remember mizuno are 1* flatter in lie than most other brands so get that checked if ur used to play tm, titleist, ping etc etc

+1
I have the MP53 and have hit the MP54 recently at a foregolf fitting. Little or no difference between the 2 sets IMHO. Fantastic irons, plenty forgiving as long as your able to get in the vicinity of the sweetspot, and they look great too. Proper shaft fitting will be key as I do think they need the right shaft to bring them to life, but they'd be an investment that could last a long time........at least 6 months

elgenerale

Greebo did you buy? Or try the mizuno or callaway

GreeBo

Nope didnt buy anything at all yet....maybe christmas!

browning 12 bore

American golf good spot only got my new driver callaway x hot flex shaft my range is out around 250 to 280 on good days great club with loft 10.5 but having little hassle keeping ball down it really wants to get up in the heavens

daithi7

Good reviews here on golfwrx, Callaway Apex just pipping the TM RSi2 by a hair on distance, the TMs shade it on forgiveness, me thinks forgiveness matters more to me and would make a bigger impact on my scoring any day !! :-)

http://www.golfwrx.com/298701/2015-gear-trials-best-players-irons/