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bathroom paint keeps peeling, driving me nuts

  • 20-07-2014 12:13pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭


    Any advice would be appreciated.

    My en-suite ceiling paint keeps on peeling. I tried to scrap back all loose paint before and repainted but all has peeled again down to plaster. What can I do to fix it.

    My plan is to scrape back the whole ceiling and start from scratch but what paint should I use. A painter I know told me to use an oil based undercoat and then any paint on top but I've read online that the oil based paints can shrink and crack.

    Can anyone advise the best paints? this room has a extractor fan but no window but we try leave the door open all the time during showers to let steam out.

    Thanks in avance


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭CarrickMcJoe


    Use Zinnser Permawhite, its designed for bathrooms, kitchens etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    Is it an old house?
    Is it plasterboard that's on the ceiling?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭newmum62


    No built in 2005. I assume its plasterboard skimmed after that up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    Scrape all the peeling paint off, wash the ceiling thoroughly, then you need to use a brush to apply some masonry sealer..use a brush, not a roller-it's too messy and you'll be destroyed.

    Apply the sealer all over the ceiling, let it dry, then use Dulux/Crown ceiling paint, preferably one designed for bathrooms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Is the paint peeling above the shower only?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭newmum62


    No but it definitely is worst above the shower but it peeling in a few other spots as well
    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Is the paint peeling above the shower only?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    newmum62 wrote: »
    No but it definitely is worst above the shower but it peeling in a few other spots as well

    Usually if it's pealing in the shower it is from the steam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭newmum62


    Yes i am sure it is the steam causing it alright but I've lived with smaller bathrooms and they never peeled. Paint must be an issue as well. Its so unsightly looking
    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Usually if it's pealing in the shower it is from the steam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Sounds like the plaster was never sealed. You can scrape it back to the plaster first. Polybond it to seal. This gives the paint something to stick to. Then build up with light coats of bathroom paint.

    Your problem will be solved. Incidentally look into how ventilation is done. Might need an extractor or at least open a window when showering


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭game4it70


    listermint wrote: »
    Sounds like the plaster was never sealed. You can scrape it back to the plaster first. Polybond it to seal. This gives the paint something to stick to. Then build up with light coats of bathroom paint.

    Never try to seal raw plaster with polybond.Its makes more work for yourself and if not watered down enough it can peel when you apply paint.The only time it should be used on raw plaster is if sizing the walls for wallpaper.

    The best way is to scrape all the lose paint off then treat with a couple of coats of stabilizing solution.Then you will have a sound surface to work with.
    You can then use what CarrickMcJoe recommended or a decent kitchen/bathroom emulsion and not a standard vinyl matt.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭newmum62


    Thanks for all the advice. with the stabilizing solution, i assume there is a particular one i need for indoors? on a very quick Google most are saying for exterior use only. Is there an interior one as well
    game4it70 wrote: »
    Never try to seal raw plaster with polybond.Its makes more work for yourself and if not watered down enough it can peel when you apply paint.The only time it should be used on raw plaster is if sizing the walls for wallpaper.

    The best way is to scrape all the lose paint off then treat with a couple of coats of stabilizing solution.Then you will have a sound surface to work with.
    You can then use what CarrickMcJoe recommended or a decent kitchen/bathroom emulsion and not a standard vinyl matt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭game4it70


    newmum62 wrote: »
    Thanks for all the advice. with the stabilizing solution, i assume there is a particular one i need for indoors? on a very quick Google most are saying for exterior use only. Is there an interior one as well

    Most of them can be used indoors.Go to your local paint shop and ask for it.Dont try the likes of woodies and homebase as they normally wont carry such products.
    You can get water and solvent based solutions.The solvent is better imo but will stink for a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭jennyjoy


    I'd first make sure your vent is working properly...the steam created from the shower is what causes paint to peel in bathroom. I had this issue in my old house and my dad would have to come and repaint it all the time. The best way is to have a good working vent and then redo the walls properly. Scrape the paint down and sand the whole wall (yes, the whole wall which is not too fun). Choose paint that is known to be ok with water and steam and then repaint the wall or walls with the issue. I didn't do this but I'm sure there is some type of sealant that can be coated over the paint after it dries.


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