Hot of the press Weatherspoons and Swords

Spook_ie

Just heard Weatherspoons coming to Swords Aug 19th. Not in the Lamb but at the Old Boro.

The Hill Billy

Source?

Mr Simpson

The location may be correct (nothing confirmed obviously), but I'd be shocked if the date was.

Less than a month from now, with no work or recruitment carried out. And its not listed on their website as coming soon. November/December is more likely

T-Maxx

Spook_ie wrote: »

Just heard Weatherspoons coming to Swords Aug 19th. Not in the Lamb but at the Old Born.

Where's the '' Old Born''?

Michael8000

T-Maxx wrote: »

Where's the '' Old Born''?

The Old Boro perhaps?

micraX

Mr Simpson wrote: »

The location may be correct (nothing confirmed obviously), but I'd be shocked if the date was.

Less than a month from now, with no work or recruitment carried out. And its not listed on their website as coming soon. November/December is more likely

I know a lad from swords working in the one that just opened in town, he's being transfered to swords when it opens.

MugMugs

Probably the best place for it. Never really liked the old boro.

BKWDR

I've heard the same that it's confirmed for the Old Boro and they are keeping on the existing staff too.

Can't say i was fond of the place once people stopped going there.

rpurfield

Mr Simpson wrote: »

The location may be correct (nothing confirmed obviously), but I'd be shocked if the date was.

Less than a month from now, with no work or recruitment carried out. And its not listed on their website as coming soon. November/December is more likely

I'd imagine staff will transfer over and the name over the door is all that will change initially

scudzilla

Went back to Wales last week for my daughters graduation, popped into the local Wetherspoons, must have been a lucky time as they were bang in the middle of their 'Cider Festival'/

If you're heading over to the UK or up North i suggest ya pop in, some GREAT ciders on offer, and a few that were.....not so great :pac::pac:

2.50 a pint of ya could have 3 1/3pint tasters for the same price, leathered i was!!

Here's what they had on offer, let's hope they bring these 'Festivals' over here

The Hill Billy

Let's keep it local. You've already posted in the B/W/S forum about this. Ta.

tHB

scudzilla

The Hill Billy wrote: »

Let's keep it local. You've already posted in the B/W/S forum about this. Ta.

tHB

Sorry, didn't realise there was a rule about not posting the same thing in different threads.

How many of your 'local' people will go in that forum?

The Hill Billy

Are you on a commission? Keep it local please. If you have an issue - PM me.

tHB

peteb2

scudzilla wrote: »

Sorry, didn't realise there was a rule about not posting the same thing in different threads.

How many of your 'local' people will go in that forum?

Probably about as many of us that are popping over to Wales for a drink! :rolleyes:

Collibosher

In an article in the Irish Times last week, the Wetherspoon's chairman said they'd just signed contracts on the Swords pub.

Spook_ie

Collibosher wrote: »

In an article in the Irish Times last week, the Wetherspoon's chairman said they'd just signed contracts on the Swords pub.

See that Wetherspoons are looking for pp for a 14 bedroom hotel, maybe Swords is starting to look up again

From Fingalcoco.ie ( can't post link as on mobile at moment)
change of use at 1st floor level from ancillary pub storage (permission granted for a restaurant under F01A/1285 was not implemented), to Guesthouse accommodation. A total of 14 no. en-suite bedrooms are proposed with ancillary storage and laundry rooms. The development includes internal alterations and works at ground floor include a new internal hotel lobby, repairs to existing window and balconies, new mechanical plant



Planning apps
F14a/0458 and 0459

ThunbergsAreGo

Great news really looking forward to this opening

Spook_ie

Might be a long wait yet, previous owners applied in 2009 for 16 bedrooms, refused by FCC and also refused on appeal.

F09A/0625

Works to a protected structure. Development consists of change of use of previously granted 200 seater restaurant reg. ref. F01A/1285 at first floor level, to guesthouse accommodation comprising 16 no. ensuite bedrooms with ancillary storage, office, laundry and meeting rooms. Development includes minor changes to rear elevation, new raised floor and internal demolitions and alterations, all at first floor level.

On 02-Feb-2010, a decision REFUSE PERMISSION was made by Fingal County Council on this application. Subsequently, an appeal was lodged on 01-Mar-2010 and a decision to Refuse Permission was made by An Bord Pleanala on 05-Jul-2010.

Reason

Reason The development of the kind proposed would be premature by reference to the existing lack of wastewater treatment capacity in the Swords wastewater treatment plant and the period within which the constraints involved may reasonably be expected to cease. It is considered therefore that the proposed development would be prejudicial to public health and would be contrary to the proper planning and sustainable development of the area.
Reason The proposed development located in close proximity to the heavily trafficked junction of the Malahide Road and Main St. would by reason of the intensification of use at this location including a lack of sufficient dedicated car parking together with an increase in associated traffic movements, would endanger public safety by reason of a traffic hazard and would be contrary to the proper planning and sustainable development of the area.

Can't see any of those conditions changed TBH

martinn123

So, If they do open soon, there will be

No

Guinness
Murphy's
Heinekin

http://www.newstalk.com/Wetherspoons-cut-Heineken-from-all-its-UK-and-Irish-pubs-after-Dun-Laoghaire-row

so I won't be going

T-Maxx

I hope Weatherspoons are a huge success (here and elsewhere in Ireland) and make these breweries come crawling back begging for business.

Spook_ie

martinn123 wrote: »

So, If they do open soon, there will be

No

Guinness
Murphy's
Heinekin

http://www.newstalk.com/Wetherspoons-cut-Heineken-from-all-its-UK-and-Irish-pubs-after-Dun-Laoghaire-row

so I won't be going

You'll just have to drink decent beers...

On a more serious note

Wetherspoon's has been working with the company for over 35 years and their contract is thought to be worth £60m (€76m). Heineken is Ireland's most popular draft lager.

€76m is no small drop in revenue for Heineken UK

MugMugs

Cheap beer. Mmmmmmmm

I'll have to rally the old troops for an all dayer when it opens !

And then take a week off work ot recover

LucidLife

The man who owns this franchise was daydreaming one day in class and his teacher Mr/Mrs (cant recall) Weatherspoon announced he will never amount to anything. He duly packed his bag and said 'just you wait and see'. Called the chain after the teacher clearly

Lux23

Is it actually opening in Swords?

Spook_ie

Lux23 wrote: »

Is it actually opening in Swords?

They have brought the Old Boro and have a planning application in for it

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93156151&postcount=16

current and proposed floorplans
http://documents.fingalcoco.ie/NorthgatePublicDocs/00482452.pdf
planning app report
http://documents.fingalcoco.ie/NorthgatePublicDocs/00482417.pdf

easygoing39

Cant wait till it opens up,wil give the other Swords pubs a wake up call!!

desbrook

martinn123 wrote: »

So, If they do open soon, there will be

No

Guinness
Murphy's
Heinekin

http://www.newstalk.com/,Wetherspoons-cut-Heineken-from-all-its-UK-and-Irish-pubs-after-Dun-Laoghaire-row

so I won't be going

Attitudes like this are just the reason drink prices are so high in Ireland. It was the same attitude that kept supermarket prices so high until we realised the world didn't revolve around Fairy, Coke and Kelloggs!!

martinn123

desbrook wrote: »

Attitudes like this are just the reason drink prices are so high in Ireland. It was the same attitude that kept supermarket prices so high until we realised the world didn't revolve around Fairy, Coke and Kelloggs!!

Attitudes, like this, with a Smiley at the end, suggest its a little joke.

Remember those?

Happy Xmas, have a beer, chill out.

Spook_ie

I notice that the 18th. Dec 2014 was the last date for objections etc. Nothing new under planning app F14a/0458 and 0459, so does anyone live near enought to the council offices to ask what the story is?

desbrook

Spook_ie wrote: »

I notice that the 18th. Dec 2014 was the last date for objections etc. Nothing new under planning app F14a/0458 and 0459, so does anyone live near enought to the council offices to ask what the story is?

Website?

Spook_ie

desbrook wrote: »

Website?

Fingalcoco.ie has nothing to add, I think only a personal visit to the planning office is going to yield any information

pinkypinky

You could phone the lead planner: they're very helpful on the phone.

charlietheminxx

It's definitely opening, says coming soon on the Werherspoons website... I typed fingal co co yesterday in my dozy Monday state!

Larianne

Interesting!

Spook_ie

Well they've fenced off the carpark and skips on site, so somethings moving at last

Spook_ie

Nothing much going on but have seen that planning app f14a/0458 has been approved but f14a/0459 is still pending

f14a/0458

Application Reference: F14A/0458
Decision of Fingal County Council: GRANT PERMISSION
Decision Date: 25-Feb-2015
Extension of time to (if applicable):

If a decision has been made, then listed below are the conditions and reasons attached with the decision of Fingal County Council. The category of decision made, determines what is displayed under the type column:

Conditions are associated with grants
Reasons are given for refusals
Directives are items requested under Additional Information
Informatives are items requested under clarification of Additional Information
Notes are reasons for invalidating a planning application

In some cases, a combination of conditions, reasons, directives and informatives are used with regard to split decisions i.e. grant permission and refuse permission.

N.B. In the event of an appeal, any decision by An Bord Pleanala will supercede the above, the details of which (from 2002 onwards) can be found by following the path to the website under the Appeal tab.

Type Description
Condition The development shall be carried out in its entirety in accordance with the plans, particulars and specifications lodged with the application and additional information received on 30th January 2015, save as may be required by the other conditions attached hereto. REASON: To ensure that the development shall be in accordance with the permission, and that effective control be maintained.

Condition This permission relates solely to that detailed in the statutory public notices and does not refer to any other aspects of the development that may be shown in the lodged plans. REASON: In the interest of the clarity.

Condition The following engineering requirements of the Water Services Planning Section shall be complied with in full with regard to surface water drainage: a) No surface water/ rainwater shall discharge into the foul sewer system under any circumstances. b) The surface water drainage shall be in compliance with the ‘Greater Dublin Regional Code of Practice for Drainage Works Version 6.0’ FCC April 2006. REASON: In order to comply with the Sanitary Services Acts.

Condition The following requirements shall be met in full by the developer: a) All discharge from food preparation areas within the kitchen shall be through a suitable grease interceptor. b) Where the developer proposes to connect to a public water/ wastewater network operated by Irish Water, the developer shall sign a connection agreement with Irish Water prior to the commencement of the development and adhere to the standards and conditions set out in that agreement. c) In the interest of Public Health and Environmental Sustainability, Irish Water Infrastructure capacity requirements and proposed connections to the Water and Waste Water Infrastructure will be subject to the constraints of the Irish Water Capital Investment Programme. REASON: In the interests of public health and in order to ensure adequate drainage provision.

Condition The following engineering requirements of the Transportation Planning Section shall be met in full: a) Prior to the commencement of development, the developer shall submit a revised site layout plan that shows that the design of the vehicular access ensures that there is sufficient inter-visibility between passing pedestrians and exiting vehicles. b) Stages 2 and 3 of the Road Safety Audit shall be conducted and the recommendations, in particular those relating to the interactions between the proposed access and the existing traffic signals shall be implemented to the satisfaction of the Planning Authority at the developer’s expense. c) The car parking spaces shall be managed and allocated to different uses on site to the satisfaction of the Planning Authority. REASON: In the interest of traffic and pedestrian safety.

Condition The developer shall ascertain and comply in full with the requirements of the Environmental Health Officer. REASON: In the interest of public health.

Condition The developer shall comply in full with the following in addition to the submitted plans, inventory and the report prepared by Brock McClure: a) From the images within the submitted Inventory and in Drawing PL-18 the grate still exists for the fireplace in the proposed office and this shall be retained but there is no grate or mantel to the fireplace in the proposed staff room. The detail for this shall be agreed in writing with the Planning Authority following consultation with the Conservation Officer prior to the commencement of development. b) Two further fixing points are proposed on either gate pier to accommodate signage but this is not satisfactory. The developer shall consult with the Conservation Officer on site prior to the commissioning of any signage in order to address this issue of putting further drill holes in the piers. c) The entrance door to the public house shall be revised such that the glazing bars and subdivision of panes be omitted and that only one solid large pane of glass be provided in each door. d) The original walls to the historic building shall be kept to a rendered/ plaster finish and that the openings through shall have a square head finish similar to the existing window heads. If a brick finish is desired by the applicant within the re-development, there is no objection to it being placed on the walls of the modern extension. Details shall be submitted for the written agreement of the Planning Authority prior to the commencement of development. REASON: In order to preserve the integrity and character of the protected structure.

Condition That the hours of opening of the public house shall not be outside the hours of 7 am (7.00 hours) in the morning, and 2.00 am (2.00 hours) at night, Thursday to Saturday inclusive, (otherwise closing at 12 midnight, 00.00 hours). Any changes to these times shall be the subject of a new planning application. REASON: In the interest of residential and town centre amenity.

Condition No other advertising sign(s) or structure(s) shall be erected without the prior approval of the Planning Authority or An Bord Pleanála on appeal. REASON: In the interest of the proper planning and sustainable development of the area.

Condition That all necessary measures be taken by the contractor including wheel wash facilities, to prevent the spillage or deposit of clay, rubble or other debris on adjoining roads during the course of the works. REASON: To protect the amenities of the area.

Condition That all public services to the proposed development, including electrical, telephone cables and associated equipment be located underground throughout the entire site. REASON: In the interest of amenity. Note 1: The applicant is advised that under the provisions of Section 34(13) of the Planning and Development Act 2000 a person shall not be entitled solely by REASON of a permission to carry out any development.

Condition The level of illumination to be reviewed at any time by the Transportation Department and adjustments to be made by the applicant if requested by Fingal County Council. REASON: To comply with the requirements of the Transportation Department.

Roll on a decision on 014A/0459 maybe we'll get a new venue in Swords in time to celebrate the Easter Rising Centenary!

Tilly

I thought i read somewhere that they were opening 21st July? I could very well be dreaming :P

Spook_ie

Tilly wrote: »

I thought i read somewhere that they were opening 21st July? I could very well be dreaming :P

Not seen anything about dates myself, if you find where you read it please link

Tilly

Spook_ie wrote: »

Not seen anything about dates myself, if you find where you read it please link

I just googled it there but cant find anything. I may be going mad....

Edit: http://www.independent.ie/regionals/fingalindependent/news/date-set-for-opening-of-swords-pub-31088351.html

Woohoo only semi mad

roverrules

Come on July 21st :-)

Irish Halo

Also see this image:
http://www.swords-dublin.com/uploads/4/3/3/6/43368469/5159636_orig.jpg

From here:
http://www.swords-dublin.com/the-old-boro-pub.html

Spook_ie

I'm holding them to that!


http://www.7is7.com/otto/countdown.html?year=2015&month=7&date=21&ts=24&hrs=0&min=0&sec=0&lang=en&show=d&mode=t&cdir=down&bgcolor=%23CCFFFF&fgcolor=%23000000&title=Countdown%20To

pinkypinky

Article in the today's Irish Times concurs with signage now up on the Old Boro that they open on 21st July.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/agribusiness-and-food/jd-wetherspoon-to-open-three-new-bars-in-ireland-1.2219295

Spook_ie

Will be an interesting race to the opening day

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Stheno

So the Spooens (think Spoons in a thick Dub accent) is opening tomorrow

All evening, I've been entertaining the OH asking if we will be going to "de spooens"

PWEI

So went in to Old Borough last night for one. Got a krombacher German Pils & it only cost €2.95. My friend had a Kopparberg cider and it cost €3.95.

They were advertising their Curry special. A curry with pilau rice & Naan bread & an alcohol drink for €10.50 or with a non alcoholic drink for €8.50.

They've done a nice job of he interior also. I always found the Old Borough very dark but they've really brightened the place up.

Shred

We're going to give this a go tomorrow afternoon.What's the story with this though: Drinks in Weatherspoons Blanch €1 dearer - my sister was in the Old Boro the other day and said Staropramen was a euro dearer than Blackrock; I thought they had a uniform model and if anything I would have expected prices to be the other way around