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Scots-Irish-American diaspora. Wha?

  • 17-07-2014 11:50pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭


    News Flash from RTE:-

    "Irish language television station TG4 has begun broadcasting in the USA to the 40 million strong Scots-Irish-American diaspora"

    "Scots-Irish American" is Americanese for American descendants of Northern Ireland Protestants.

    40 million is usually given as the approximate number of Americans with Irish ancestry in general - not just our non-Catholic brethren of the North.

    Who came up with that mysterious and very inaccurate headline being continuously broadcast on RTE News channel?

    It's very good news that TG4 is being broadcast to the USA, but I hope it's not being curtailed to a protestant audience only.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    Suil eile


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭House of Blaze


    Míshásta wrote: »
    It's very good news that TG4 is being broadcast to the USA, but I hope it's not being curtailed to a protestant audience only.

    Why on earth would it matter what religion the people watching it are? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭Míshásta


    Why on earth would it matter what religion the people watching it are? :confused:

    Of course it doesn't.

    I was just commenting on the headline ""Irish language television station TG4 has begun broadcasting in the USA to the 40 million strong Scots-Irish-American diaspora"


    I repeat:
    "Scots-Irish American" is Americanese for American descendants of Northern Ireland Protestants.

    The headline is just incorrect and misleading.

    Probably doesn't matter but you'd expect better standards from RTE news editors.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    My ancestors were Norman invaders, doesn't make me French though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    I can see why you'd be unhappy or discontented OP :pac:

    I'd say someone just got their wires crossed and thought Scots-Irish meant people for whom the gaelic language is part of their heritage, e.g. people of Scottish or Irish descent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    Míshásta wrote: »
    I hope it's not being curtailed to a protestant audience only.

    *snigger*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 937 ✭✭✭swimming in a sea


    I think I heard that at least half of all US presidents were Scots-Irish..Some say that Andrew Jackson may have even been born in Carrickfergus... that would make him a fare bit more linked to Ireland than JFK


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    Yeah, it has all 40 million of them tuning in each night to catch Ros na Run.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    These Ulster dissenter guys used to just refer to themselves as just "Irish" when they left here for the new world in a series of waves from the early 1700s (oppression by Church of Ireland and poor harvests). Then around the mid-1850s huge numbers of famine-fleeing southern Irish started filling the East Coast cities. They were dirt poor uneducated Catholic and were not looked on favourably by the English Episcopaleans. It was around then the terms like Scots Irish or Scotch Irish emerged for differentiation.

    These people travelled inland on wagon trains to settle Penn/Ken/Tenn/Geo/Carolinas etc. and broke through the Cumberland Gap. I met a lot of their descendents and they more often than not refuse to differentiate - when I tell them who I am they just say I'm Irish too. I'm not religious and I got on with them like a house on fire. They are invariably of the reformed Christian trad but tend not to have any of the modern-day Irish sectarian baggage. They are the real 'fighting' Irish often referred to in the U.S.A.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Hotfail.com


    A bit off-topic but..

    Is there a region in America where a lot of people speak Irish and all the place names sound Gaelic? Or is that Canada? Or am I completely wrong? :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    A bit off-topic but..

    Is there a region in America where a lot of people speak Irish and all the place names sound Gaelic? Or is that Canada? Or am I completely wrong? :p

    There was a gaeltacht area of Irish settlers in Newfoundland, Canada at one point. Not sure if it's still active.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Thud


    I presume they mean people of Gaelic decent but used the term Scots-Irish thinking it meant the same thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    A bit off-topic but..

    Is there a region in America where a lot of people speak Irish and all the place names sound Gaelic? Or is that Canada? Or am I completely wrong? :p

    Nova Scotia has a large Scottish and Irish population and many Irish placenames. There is a Gaelic Council in Halifax, NS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Scots Gaelic is surprisingly easy to read if you have a bit of Gaeilge, more difficult to hear as their pronounciations are different.

    No prizes for guessing what their Bunnahabhainn whiskey stands for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,193 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    There's very few Irish in Arizona but there's an Irish history dating back to the days of the Irish, African and Chinese laborers building the railways. There's books about it in the local bookstores.

    They have an Irish culture center in downtown Phoenix too. It looks like a modernish Irish castle, when you go inside it's all wooden floors and that dabbed paint job. They have very little in there though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    A bit off-topic but..

    Is there a region in America where a lot of people speak Irish and all the place names sound Gaelic? Or is that Canada? Or am I completely wrong? :p

    newfoundland. their accents are part irish part canadian. it's a mindfcuk


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